Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26679 posts, RR: 83 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19391 times:
Very neat. Thanks for sharing (again, if it's been posted before).
N829TH From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 21 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19336 times:
I saw it posted on another web site but couldn't find it on Airliners.net
Alaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1056 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19114 times:
Art at ISP From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 164 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 19107 times:
This is a piece of a commercial video produced by ITTV. It is readily available for purchase I believe.
Adam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 395 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18960 times:
Is there that level of communication on every flight or is any of that embellished for the video? Any airline pilots that can answer?
N829TH From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 21 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18873 times:
Quoting Adam42185 (Reply 6): s there that level of communication on every flight or is any of that embellished for the video?
Hotelmode From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 459 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18807 times:
Quoting Adam42185 (Reply 6): Is there that level of communication on every flight or is any of that embellished for the video? Any airline pilots that can answer?
ArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 18689 times:
I always thought approach sector to San Francisco was known as 'San Francisco Approach.' I don't recall it being called 'Bay Approach.'
Aaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 7619 posts, RR: 28 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 18598 times:
Quoting ArcrftLvr (Reply 9): I always thought approach sector to San Francisco was known as 'San Francisco Approach.' I don't recall it being called 'Bay Approach.'
The video is from some years ago, possibly the late 1990s. Since around 2003, the San Francisco area TRACON has been referred to as 'NORCAL' approach/departure control.
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ArcrftLvr From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 782 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 18578 times:
Quoting Aaron747 (Reply 10): The video is from some years ago, possibly the late 1990s. Since around 2003, the San Francisco area TRACON has been referred to as 'NORCAL' approach/departure control.
That's right. It's been awhile since I've flown up there. I knew Bay Approach didn't sound right.
Efgonzo From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 8 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 16087 times:
The video was done around the late December 1999 time frame. At 2:36 into the first video, the captain references the SID plate and reads the date of issue as 17th Dec 1999.
MNeo From Bulgaria, joined Mar 2004, 776 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 15567 times:
Great video. Watched all 6 parts. I noticed that "heavy" was only used during landing, and was wondering why. Is wake not such a big deal during takeoff, or is there another reason for that?
YWG From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 1140 posts, RR: 2 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 15180 times:
Quoting MNeo (Reply 14): I noticed that "heavy" was only used during landing, and was wondering why. Is wake not such a big deal during takeoff, or is there another reason for that?
Often, as is the case in Canada, heavy can sometimes only be said at initial contact, or in cases where wake turbulence is greatest (take off and landings).
Tigerotor77W From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14792 times:
Hotelmode From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 459 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 13226 times:
Quoting MNeo (Reply 14): I noticed that "heavy" was only used during landing,
The US is the only country that requires Heavy appended to every transmission. Generally either on First contact or not at all in the rest of the world.
UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4286 posts, RR: 5 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 11783 times:
Very professional captain and crew Amazing what goes down in cockpits every day.
Freeze3192 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 125 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 11186 times:
Quoting Hotelmode (Reply 17):
Quoting MNeo (Reply 14):
I noticed that "heavy" was only used during landing,
The US is the only country that requires Heavy appended to every transmission. Generally either on First contact or not at all in the rest of the world.
Actually, it's only required when you're talking to Terminal or lower (Tower, Ground, etc.). It is not required while talking to enroute.
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Logos From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 768 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 10003 times:
Quoting Freeze3192 (Reply 19): Actually, it's only required when you're talking to Terminal or lower (Tower, Ground, etc.). It is not required while talking to enroute
That would make sense as those are the times when it comes into play in terms of wake turbulence.
Hotelmode From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 459 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9480 times:
Quoting Freeze3192 (Reply 19): Actually, it's only required when you're talking to Terminal or lower (Tower, Ground, etc.). It is not required while talking to enroute.
It is required en-route, it is required in any FAA controlled airspace not just low level. Wake turbulence encounters often happen en-route too. AIM 7-3-8 makes no distinction.
Theginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1110 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9086 times:
Quoting Adam42185 (Reply 6): Is there that level of communication on every flight or is any of that embellished for the video? Any airline pilots that can answer?
I am not a pilot but have done many cockpit jumpseat rides, last one a couple of years ago. Yes there is that level of communication, but remember the video is editied so the communication that may have taken place over 45 mins is compressed in to 10 mins of video. Otherwise on approach there are moments of silence, but remember any time the pilot does something to the operation of the plane they will tell the other.
Mountain From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8359 times:
Why do the first officers have two stripes? I thought three stripes indicated first officers. Back in the day, two stripes were for second officer, normally a flight engineer.
Theginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1110 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8043 times:
Quoting Mountain (Reply 23): Why do the first officers have two stripes? I thought three stripes indicated first officers. Back in the day, two stripes were for second officer, normally a flight engineer.
First Officer (FO) 2 Stripes, Senior First Officer (SFO) 3 Stripes. Normally at an airline, well a UK one anyway you will start as an FO then after a few years become an SFO.
25 413X3: The relief pilot died in a swimming accident I believe after he retired with back injuries to South Africa. The pilot went to fly for Singapore and ba
26 Climb1: I believe this vid was done during 2000. Its got some great footage. A MUST for 744 fans! Heres a link to the previous thread about this video. http:/
27 Grimey: I bought it last September, I showed my family the take off and landing clips and thats when they realised why I always wanted to become a pilot. It'
28 Acey559: Are you sure? I know that when I've been flying around Chicago it isn't always used by the crews or even ATC every time. There have been a few instan
29 Hotelmode: Yup its in my company ops manual for US flying, and the FAR AIM I quoted makes no distinction. From my experience we always get described as a heavy
30 Virtual: Alan Carter, the Captain in that video, now flies 737NGs and works for us a simulator instructor, providing simulator experiences for members of the p
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