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BMI In A Years Time...?  
User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1153 times:

As you probably know, BMI British Midland will recommence Transatlantic services this year, after a gap of 18 years.
This month SAS will lease BDs 1st A332 for one year.
BD will receive their 2 other A332s this & next month. They've also got a 4th A332 on order.
So by this time next year BD should have four A332s, but at the momment only 2 routed to operate them on.

So where will BD be off to next?
I know they've applied for the right to serve loads of US cities (from MAN), but which can you see them flying to next?

And will they necessarally expand in the US.....?

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User currently offlineTristar4ever From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 84 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1128 times:

The a332`s can basicly fly anywhere cause of their range. My guess is any other united hub,maybe denver or SFO. or perhaps a varig hub in south america. its still best for them to base the transatlantic routes around the big star alliance hubs. that way they are less likely to loose money on such routes. I hope they do well, it would be sad to see them go under.

do you like the new slogan, civil aviation? i think its really clever, and the new adds are also good.

Mike.


User currently offlineNG737PSR From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 305 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

My two favourite ads are "is it haemarroids?" and " I saw him at Glastonbury and he really rocks".

Still haven't quite worked out the Des Lynham one yet, any clues?


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 1107 times:

Thanks for your thoughts Mike.

'Civil Aviation' is the best slogan out there IMO.

I like the ads too, but I've no idea either about the Des Lynham one!




User currently offlineJfidler From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1103 times:

Wasn't there some problem whereby British Midland wasn't being granted any slots into the U.S., because American carriers weren't being granted any slots into LHR? Or was that resolved?

Justin


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 1092 times:

Hi Justin,

I think you mean a bugger of a rule called 'Bermuda II'.

The Bermuda II agrement currently means that only 2 UK and 2 US airlines may fly LHR-USA or USA-LHR.
Only Virgin Atlantic, British Airways, United Airlines and American Airlines are currently allowed to fly to the States from Heathrow.

BMI have recently complanied to...well I don't know who exactly, but BMI was refused the right to codeshare, from LHR, with United despite the fact that Continental currently codeshare with VS from Heathrow.

Bermuda II only applies to flights to the United States from London Heathrow, and no other routes.
Therefore, BMI are able to fly from Manchester International to the US.

Hope that clears it up!
Jamie.


User currently offlineJohnnybgoode From Germany, joined Jan 2001, 2187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1082 times:

i agree with Tristar4ever, but i highly doubt they´d fly to GRU very soon. concentrating on star hubs at the beginning is certainly a wise decision, and so i suggest YYZ, Air Canada´s main hub, instead of Varig at Sao Paulo.
well, this is just a pure guess, but i could imagine bmi serving SFO, as Tristar already mentioned, as well as JFK or EWR from MAN (and not swapping this flight to LHR if they are granted rights to fly to the US from LHR).
what about LAX, BOS, MIA?

rgds
daniel



If only pure sweetness was offered, why's this bitter taste left in my mouth.
User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 1075 times:

I thought about MIA.
How much competition is there on the MAN-NYC routes?


User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (13 years 5 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1060 times:

Can we please have bmi british midland to BAH and DXB?

Please?


User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 9, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1033 times:

MAN-JFK is currently served by BA and PIA , and MAN-EWR is served by CO.
I would think they may add SFO on a daily flight so both a/c would have to be utilised, or maybe JFK and MIA.



When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!
User currently offlineShankly From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2000, 1544 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1022 times:

Glad the very good bmi ad's have come up.

What is the a/c in the opening scrole? My guess is an A321, although the interior shots are definitely imply a widebody.

Can't wait for a chance to cross the pond with them.



L1011 - P F M
User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1020 times:

The a/c in the opening shot is a computer generated A330!

User currently offlineB727-200 From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 1051 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1018 times:

To supprise you all the USA is not the end of the world for airlines to terminate at (although on my recent visit, "end of the world" is a bloody good description).

I have just heard that BMI will be looking at going into HKG, which for those of you that don't know, is in the other direction.

 Acting devilish



User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1011 times:

LOL- Do I detect some slight anti-USA feelings there?!
But you're quite right, the US isn't necessarily the only way they'll go.
BMI have the right to fly from Heathrow to tens and tens of destinations in Asia, South America* & Australia* (I don't know about Africa).

*Can't remember if they've got the routes already or have applied for them.

I do think however that they'll serve afew US destinations from MAN before they begin any other longhaul non-US destinations.

But given the fact that they've got/applied for the right to fly to places such as Venezuela, Argentina and Panama, they're certainly keeping their options open!!! (despite the fact that they'll probably never fly most of the routes)


User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1008 times:

Also, I think that it would be best to avoid routes that VS fly. Otherwise, BD could end up having to compete with at least 3 other carriers on a route.

User currently offlineEnglandair From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 2228 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (13 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 980 times:

Actually, I can remember reading about bmi going to code share with ANA LHR to Tokyo(?).

How is the late arrival of the a/c affecting SK, (who were going to lease the 1st A332)?


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