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First Air France B77W With The New Revised Livery  
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 29048 times:

Here it is : F-GZND.

AF 52nd B777, 27th B77W, and the 777th B777 produced.










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User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2501 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 29044 times:

Don't know what to think about this livery... Not very spectacular I have to say... But nice clean 773  Wink


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User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 29014 times:

thanx for posting... but the new livery is quite boring..!

cheers: DALelite



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User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1744 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 28969 times:
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So is the airline airfrance now? Lacking a space or some other way of deliminating the words seems pretty stupid to me.


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User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1099 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 28879 times:

Actually the red spot on white background suggets way more a polish origin than it would suggest a french...

Strange to me...


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 28712 times:

New or old makes no big difference, it''s practically the same. Somehow this one feels a bit more retro to me, with the bigger titles and fewer stripes on the tail. To be honest, I don't think the change was necessary.


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User currently offlineDALelite From Switzerland, joined Jun 2000, 1770 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 28695 times:



Quoting NicoEDDF (Reply 5):
Actually the red spot on white background suggets way more a polish origin than it would suggest a french...

didn't you know, AF and DL are to merge...

cheers : DALelite



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User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13141 posts, RR: 100
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 28686 times:
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Quoting AIR MALTA (Reply 1):
But nice clean 773

So you too had trouble identifying the airline?  duck 

Seriously, I like everything about the livery except for that red slash/dot. As NicoEDDF notes, it gives it a Polish flair. I think a French flag waving in a fashion similar to how the union jack is displayed on VS would have been a better touch.

Also... the engines are just too while. But they're ok.

Just to be clear, I like the livery... but its also 'almost there' and doesn't quite impress.

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3916 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 28664 times:

I think its a nice, clean and modern upgrade!

User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17066 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 28602 times:

It is so BORING. So much white (well for now before it gets all dirty  duck  )


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User currently offlineBlueSky1976 From Poland, joined Jul 2004, 1885 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 28534 times:

Actually, it does not look that bad. A nice evolution of the well-known image. Not to mention, it is on my favourite widebody twin  Smile  Smile


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User currently onlineSkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 28499 times:

The pics are nothing short of being SPECTACULAR.

The livery is so much more elegant looking. Less is more....


User currently offlineAFKL From Netherlands, joined Feb 2008, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 28460 times:

For those who say it's boring, I will have to agree, but then again, it's no less boring than it has always been. It's not exciting, but it's not ugly. I do however like the larger titles, which something where Delta for instance, went wrong.

Initialy however, when I heard of the "livery change", I was hoping they would get rid of the excess white. Unfortunately this did not happen.

So will we have to wait for another 30+ years for a true livrery change?


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User currently offlineBlatantEcho From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1913 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 28402 times:

very nice update. way more classy than Delta's eurowhite sceme, or some of the other copy cats. They are the pioneer of boring, euro white!


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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 28101 times:

Of course, everything is a matter of taste ...

The fact is that AIR France is a legacy Airline.

Would you imagine QF without its kangaroo ? AA without its Eagle ? or LH without the Crane ?

It would have been very dangerous for AF (in terms of image, and commercially) to 'throw away" its legendary and world famous "blue/white/red" stripes, completely part of its identity.

I think it's a smart move to have just "modernized" and "revamped" the Logo, without changing it completely.

The is the more "decent" and reasonable of all the projects studied by AF.

OK. It's not a BIG change ... the people who didn't like the "old" livery will certainly not like this one more.


User currently offlineBa319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8546 posts, RR: 55
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 28072 times:
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The overall change is minimal, however I think it is an improvement over the current livery, the font is very classy - IMO.


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User currently offlineSandroZRH From Switzerland, joined Feb 2007, 3428 posts, RR: 50
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 27955 times:

Still the same boring livery if you ask me. They should have come up with something more original or just have stayed with their durrent livery.

User currently offlineEBJ1248650 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1932 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 27927 times:



Quoting Dvincent (Reply 3):
So is the airline airfrance now? Lacking a space or some other way of deliminating the words seems pretty stupid to me.

I wondered too if the airline had changed its name. New liveries are supposed to reflect a new image but I don't see any reason why Air France would want to change the name, especially as the French are so very proud to be French! Is it possible the painting of the name was done in error?



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User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 27860 times:

Quoting EBJ1248650 (Reply 17):
Is it possible the painting of the name was done in error?

No. It's not.

You have now :

One airline : "AIR FRANCE - KLM"


Two brands : AIRFRANCE & KLM


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[Edited 2009-03-31 09:48:27]

User currently offlineDvincent From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1744 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 27807 times:
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I don't really mind the livery (Air France really had the euro white pinned before anyone else and it's their schtick) but AIRFRANCE withotu some space or other delimter is just dumb.


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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4911 posts, RR: 25
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 27564 times:
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Quoting Dvincent (Reply 19):
but AIRFRANCE withotu some space or other delimter is just dumb.

It's a brand, and it's moving towards a more global, less country-specific brand name (perhaps to eventually ease the integration of the KL brand into one). The closest analogy I can come up with is with Lufthansa. What is Lufthansa? It is not a word on its own, but it is really made up of two words "Luft" (which is Air in German) and Hansa (after the medieval trading group - Hanseatic league, based along the coast of Northern Europe). Today, no one even questions what Lufthansa means anymore....similarly, in the future, people will get use to that "one-word" airline called AIRFRANCE...


User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 27513 times:

I think the KL logo is very cleaver, the way they adapted the crown like that.


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User currently onlineAcey559 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 1533 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 27324 times:

I wasn't a fan when I saw the original renderings on here a while ago, but seeing it on the plane I think it looks pretty good. I think it would be even better if the sky weren't so cloudy, but I still think it looks alright. Granted, the 777 is a beautiful airplane so that may have something to do with it, but I still don't looks as bad as I originally thought it might.

User currently offlineSpeedbrds From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 27202 times:

Meh... There really isn't anything special about it.

If you take a closer look, the tail design of the scheme is slightly different. It has a "swoosh" effect at the bottom of the colors. Sorry, I couldn't think of the proper word, but I hope it is understandable.

The one major thing that everyone can see is that the aircraft is very neat and clean. Rare to see that these days.

spd


User currently offlineBirdbrainz From United States of America, joined May 2005, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 26732 times:

I suspect that the logic behind eliminating the space is that your eye sees something odd and is drawn to it. You then stare at it and immediately know which airline it is.

I'm not defending it, just stating the probable rationale. In fact, I hate grammatical and spelling errors. "Real good" grates on my nerves. "Jibe" vs. "jive" is another error that drives me nuts.

So now that I've stated my pet peeves, I'm waiting for some wise guy to attempt to yank my chain. Go ahead. I'm ready.  Smile

No. Let me beat you do it: That Airfrance livery looks real good, and jives with the French flag.



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25 Manfredj : I don't think the French would take kindly to their airline being less country specific, and I don't blame them. After all, Air France would make the
26 Adam42185 : BOOOOOORRRRRIIIIINNNNNNGGGGG why couldnt they come up with something more interesting?
27 Ccsaf0107 : Completely absurd this livery change, they do better to invest the money cleaning the airplanes, raising wages to employees and not putting some manag
28 BMI727 : I like it. The current image is hard to throw out entirely. It's nice that they just cleaned it up a bit. Evolution over revolution in this case.
29 LGW340 : But for how long?
30 GSPSPOT : It's not offensive or anything, but I honestly don't see why they went to the trouble. Was it really worth whatever extra expenses were incurred? FWI
31 AirbusA370 : I wouldn't call this a livery. It's ... white.
32 BMI727 : This is just a change in livery/branding, not a change in identity. I don't expect them to be scrambling planes into the paint shop, it will probably
33 Viscount630 : I'd like to have seen the Flying Seahorse better featured - it looks so good on the A320 "Retro-jet" IMHO
34 HMan : That's not exactly true, since Lufthansa really is one word in German. Words that have their own meaning in a combination are usually combined to one
35 MEA330 : FLYSSC When will AF paint its first aircraft in the new SKYTEAM color and will it be a 777/77W as stated in previous post. It would make sense to use
36 Post contains links and images Rikkus67 : Hey BMI, you hit the nail on the head. Rather than going for something completely different, AIRFRANCE decided on a freshening of the brand. It's a s
37 Post contains links and images SXDFC : I figured I'd give a shot at modifying this scheme myself..... Please tell me what you think? Aviation-Design.Net:Design © Bobby CatoneTemplate © Cy
38 FRAspotter : I take it I'm among the minority who actually like the colors. So many people here complain about it being "too boring" or "too much white". Granted t
39 Kennyone : I'm in ! I don't know why I like those colors a lot better then the current ones. Seems a lot more professional to me ! The more I look at them the m
40 JoePatroni : I totally dig your Lufthansa analogy but I just don't buy it with "AIRFRANCE." When you pronounce that "word" it seems as if naturally there should b
41 Bramble : Air Fleet? The Hanseatic league was named as they were primarily a 'maritime' trading league Same as Aeroflot or Aer Lingus
42 Antonioavelar : Since AF has a solid brand, I don't think it's a big deal to be written with one word only. People will still pronounce Air France (as if it changed m
43 Joperrin89 : The beauty is in its simplicity
44 Acey559 : I agree, I prefer simplistic liveries. I guess I'm just a 'plain 'ole vanilla' type of person (vanilla actually being one of my favorite ice cream fl
45 Nethkt : Doesn't click my taste that much on the 777-300s. But am quite sure that it looks good on those 318s 319s 320s. Long airplanes are hard to color!!
46 UA772IAD : I agree In my opinion, and from my (limited) experience in marketing and (somewhat more) experience in public relations, changing Air France to Airfr
47 B595 : I've never understood the Air France livery. The French flag is equal parts blue, white, and red. However, the Air France tail (which is an obvious re
48 Iflyswa : Agreed. To me, the new brand identity is much more striking and elegant when actually seen on the aircraft than in various renderings that were seen
49 Post contains images Ha763 : This way there will be more areas where the white paint can peel and flake off. They apparently had to use a higher quality blue paint that just doesn
50 Mascmo : AIRCANADA, AIRNEWZEALAND...I'm diggin this no space business! All airlines should do this, this could be the new trend! BRITISHAIRWAYS...
51 Pensacolaguy : Oh, WOW. A NEW Airline. Air FRA NCE Air (Frankfurt) and (Nice) Hate it. Please insert a space between Air and France.
52 EK413 : Nice clean 77W I must admit this 77W is pretty sleek... EK413
53 Bochora : It's pretty French: sleek, modern and fashionable. Not a bad job.
54 Dazed767 : Oddly enough I agree. It's somewhat of an improvement...I think.
55 SQ772 : Interesting... based on your design,I'd stick to AF's new simplified livery.
56 Viscount724 : The one word format AIRFRANCE is only used in their logo in advertising and as part of the livery. Their legal name, as used in the media, press rele
57 Eightball : There are quite a lot of things in this world where the phrase "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" applies. In my opinion, this livery update is one suc
58 Rockinflyer : I have to agree and I like the new title font as well.
59 Post contains images FlySSC : Used to be Luft Hansa ...
60 Seemyseems : And in Europe too!
61 BMI727 : During that same era, many carriers in America referred to themselves as "Air Lines" and not airlines. I would guess that Luft Hansa is the same sort
62 797 : It'll be dirty in no time Really boring scheme, it looks nice, but nothing special. I was expecting something more radical.
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