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Air Europa's MIA-TFN Service Launches 27JUN09  
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3236 times:

Operating on Saturdays effective 27 June 2009 :

UX 95 TFN 1325-1645 MIA Sa 332
UX 96 MIA 1845-0735 TFN Sa 332

Awesome news. Three new/resumed European carriers at MIA in 2009 - CSA Czech at the end of April, Air Europa in June and Finnair in November.


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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

Yes, they will also add New York to the destination list, and I think they want to open soon a direct MAD-MIA, but This is a very difficult market, Already 3 daily with IB(2x340) and AA(1x777).

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3199 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 1):
Already 3 daily with IB(2x340) and AA(1x777).

Iberia will not be operating the second frequency this summer.



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3173 times:

Thanks for keeping us up to date on the latest happenings at MIA, MAH4546! As a Skyteam Associate member, I'm assuming they'll be using Concourse H?

User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3079 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 2):
Iberia will not be operating the second frequency this summer.

Yes, just one A346 and codeshare with AA B772.

I didn´t know.


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 2015 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2943 times:

A question....

Is there really a market between the Canary Islands and anywhere in the United States??


User currently offlineAA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2332 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2916 times:



Quoting Klwright69 (Reply 5):
Is there really a market between the Canary Islands and anywhere in the United States??

There sure is, and that market is MIA. UX will end up adding more frequency to this route which will be a sure hit.



"The low fares airline."
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3299 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2910 times:



Quoting Klwright69 (Reply 5):
Is there really a market between the Canary Islands and anywhere in the United States??

Yes, especially to MIA.

As MAH4546 stated in an earlier thread, "Miami has the largest Canary Island ex-pat community in North America." There are about 35,000 Canary immigrants in the Miami area, making it "the third largest direct diaspora from Europe in Miami after Russia and Italy."

The flight is targeting these immigrants, who tend to maintain very strong ties with the Canaries, and the Canary Islands are also seeking to promote themselves to American tourists via this nonstop flight.

Full thread: Air Europa To Launch MIA-TFN


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

According to the airlineroute blog, the plane originates and terminates in Madrid, but it does not share a flight number. Also, UX is not selling tickets on MIA-MAD. Odd.

UX 9051 MAD 1000-1150 TFN 332 6
UX 9052 TFN 0920-1300 MAD 332 7



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User currently offlineAisak From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 762 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2591 times:



Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
According to the airlineroute blog, the plane originates and terminates in Madrid, but it does not share a flight number. Also, UX is not selling tickets on MIA-MAD. Odd.

It's not odd but just the opposite. They have to send a 332 down there to the Canaries somehow.

Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 1):
Yes, they will also add New York to the destination list, and I think they want to open soon a direct MAD-MIA, but This is a very difficult market

A MAD-MIA may help them to operate TFN. If the 332 departs morning from Madrid and does MAD-MIA-TFN-MIA-MAD they are not "wasting" the 332 operating a 2h-domestic sector.


User currently offlineBullpitt From Spain, joined Mar 2004, 871 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Hi all

I hope it works for them but to be honest I don´t think it will make it to xmas.

Time will tell.



These are my principles but if you don't like them I have others
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2548 times:



Quoting Aisak (Reply 9):
It's not odd but just the opposite. They have to send a 332 down there to the Canaries somehow.

No, it is definitely odd because they are not selling tickets on MIA-MAD via TFN, when they easily could.

Quoting Bullpitt (Reply 10):
I hope it works for them but to be honest I don´t think it will make it to xmas.

The flight will work as long as the cargo revenue guarantees keep on coming.



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User currently offlineMIgAiR54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2507 times:



Quoting Aisak (Reply 9):
A MAD-MIA may help them to operate TFN. If the 332 departs morning from Madrid and does MAD-MIA-TFN-MIA-MAD they are not "wasting" the 332 operating a 2h-domestic sector.

They could do very well, operatin 6x MAD-MIA and 1x TFN-MIA, also MAD-TFN is not wasting the time, This route is a great route for them, and for IB, they send A343 and even A346, and the cargo could add a great value when operating an A332.

The problem is that this route is just O&D but only 1xweek could work, but it is going to be difficult.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32596 posts, RR: 72
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2268 times:



Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 12):
The problem is that this route is just O&D but only 1xweek could work, but it is going to be difficult.

The fact that this is only O&D is not a problem. MIA-TFN is not that small a market. While it is certainly a risk, and there might be a problem getting the yield right, the market size is not an issue.

Furthermore, as already repeated many times, the flight is supported by a huge cargo contract. The risk UX is taking on this route is minimal.

The risk is being takien by SOFITESA's $1.3M subsidy on the service.



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