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1st NWA A333 In Delta Colors Lands In ATL  
User currently offlineFFLyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12848 times:

First NWA A333 has just made its arrival into ATL and will be parked over on the North Side near Delta's GO area for photo ops and press interest. This aircraft will be used tomorrow on April 1st for either Rome or London Gatwick as the other A333 will arrive tomorrow from MSP.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA9849

Appears the larger aircraft on these 2 routes from ATL have already begun to pay off as loads appear to be very very heavy. Will be interesting to see how many more A333's and 744's are moved to ATL over the course of the next few months.

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User currently offlinePilotaydin From Turkey, joined Sep 2004, 2539 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12836 times:

awww i was expecting a pic  Sad


The only time there is too much fuel onboard, is when you're on fire!
User currently offline767-332ER From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12368 times:

Yes, I caught a peek at her while leaving work. N821NW was the registration. A real beauty that complemented the line of 767's and 757's parked in-front of the Renny.


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User currently offlineDispatchguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1249 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 12313 times:

I get there tomorrow at 0800 for a midnite 4-day in flight control - I guess I am taking my camera to ATL...


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User currently offlineBHMDiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 459 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 5 days ago) and read 11508 times:

Here she is listed in DLTerm:

ATLFCO 01APR-02APR WEDNESDAY 1200N ET/G*1 1
1* 820 J9 D9 S9 I9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 ATLFCO 415P 755A¥1 333 DD0
Q9 K9 L9 U8 T8
2 166 J9 D9 S9 I9 Y7 B6 M6 H5*ATLJFK 1235P 259P 5 767 LV0
Q5 K5 L3 U1 T0
3 148 J9 D9 S9 I9 Y6 B6 M6 H5 FCO 520P 825A¥1 767 DD0
Q5 K5 L3 U1 T0
>


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11095 times:



Quoting FFLyerWorld (Thread starter):
Appears the larger aircraft on these 2 routes from ATL have already begun to pay off as loads appear to be very very heavy. Will be interesting to see how many more A333's and 744's are moved to ATL over the course of the next few months.

But is it because Delta is for whatever reason choosing to route these people through ATL instead of routing them though Detroit or elsewhere?



"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
User currently offlineQuickmover From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 11081 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
Quoting FFLyerWorld (Thread starter):
Appears the larger aircraft on these 2 routes from ATL have already begun to pay off as loads appear to be very very heavy. Will be interesting to see how many more A333's and 744's are moved to ATL over the course of the next few months.

Are the 333's that much larger than a 763 or 764?


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10991 times:



Quoting Quickmover (Reply 6):
Are the 333's that much larger than a 763 or 764?

The A333 seats 298

The 763 seats 216

The 764 seats 241 (TATL)

The 764 seats 246 (Non TATL Ver. 2)

The 764 seats 287 (non TATL Ver. 1)

The 744 seats 403

The A332 seats 243



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User currently offlineFFlyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10923 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
But is it because Delta is for whatever reason choosing to route these people through ATL instead of routing them though Detroit or elsewhere?

First of all, where are you going to take them from Detroit? The Transatlantic service from both DTW and MSP is quite limited in comparison to the huge offerings of destinations from ATL. From many of your postings that I have read, I am under the impression that you beleive that Delta is now run mostly by former NWA folks and if this is indeed true, you can only agree that they must know what they are doing by capitalizing on the huge amount of traffic generated via the world's busiest hub operation in ATL. Thus, Delta is placing the right aircraft in the right places for the right routing and will easily fill the A333 to many locations not just to Europe but down the road to places like GRU, GIG and even TLV and others.

Thanks for beating me to the aircraft capacity comparison of 763 and 764 to the A333. It is quite a noteworthy capacity increase in daily seats. Even the 777ER capacity is only 268 psgrs compared to the 298 for the A333. Thus again - we will be seeing more and more A333's and 747's in markets from ATL than can use the upgauge in equipment.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 10896 times:



Quoting FFlyerWorld (Reply 8):
Thus again - we will be seeing more and more A333's and 747's in markets from ATL than can use the upgauge in equipment.

...and that really shouldn't surprise anyone, at least anyone who understands the DL operation in ATL.


User currently offlineSsublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10530 times:

Are you sure it is the first/only A333 in DL colors? I was just on NWA from DTW - AMS on Mon Mar 30th, flight left 9:10 from DTW and it was definitely in DL colors.

User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10459 times:



Quoting Ssublyme (Reply 10):
Are you sure it is the first/only A333 in DL colors? I was just on NWA from DTW - AMS on Mon Mar 30th, flight left 9:10 from DTW and it was definitely in DL colors.

I believe that the thread starter meant that it was the first NW/DL A333 in Delta colors to arrive in ATL. At least that is what I believe they meant, as I have seen about 6-7 A333's come through here, VCV, to be repainted.

FX1816


User currently offlineFFlyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10333 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Reply 11):
I believe that the thread starter meant that it was the first NW/DL A333 in Delta colors to arrive in ATL

Yes, thank you! This is exactly what I meant. Sorry for not making this very very clear. There are already 11 out of a total of 21 A333's painted in the new Delta livery with an additional one due out today or tomorrow from VCV.


User currently offlineIndio66 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10128 times:

What are the chances we see a Delta 744 from ATL to AMS?

Seems logical to me, with massive feed on both ends.


User currently offlineSsublyme From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 10028 times:



Quoting FX1816 (Reply 11):
I believe that the thread starter meant that it was the first NW/DL A333 in Delta colors to arrive in ATL. At least that is what I believe they meant, as I have seen about 6-7 A333's come through here, VCV, to be repainted.

Yup, I guess I misinterpreted the thread. I also thought there was a slim chance I was really on an A332 not what I thought was an A333.


User currently offlineFFLyerWorld From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 9996 times:



Quoting Indio66 (Reply 13):
What are the chances we see a Delta 744 from ATL to AMS?

One would think that these city pairs would be perfect for the amount of capacity a 744 would give the market. If KLM were not operating near daily AMS- ATL-AMS I would say yes, but with a KLM A332 and in May a DL/NW A333 may be sufficient at this point.


User currently offlineDeltaLVr From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 7185 times:

I hope this isnt an "April Fools" Joke =p

User currently offlinePlanefxr From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 6969 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 5):
But is it because Delta is for whatever reason choosing to route these people through ATL instead of routing them though Detroit or elsewhere?

I really don't see this as some conspiracy theory against NW routes, but It might have something to do with the fact that ATL handles more pax than DTW and MSP combined. This is one of the synergies that will either reduce cost or increase revenue or maybe both. Neither hub loses service it is just a matter of matching supply with demand.


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4456 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6587 times:

I snapped this one:

http://www.airliners.net/addphotos/b...a330-300-n805nw-ewr-2009-03-29.jpg

while sitting through a 1 hour delay at EWR this past weekend.


User currently offlineJFK787NYC From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6361 times:

Can the A333 do JFK-TLV non-stop?

I think Delta really needs to upgrade there service given there competing with EL AL and Continental which both have better offerings.


User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9353 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 6233 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 7):
The 764 seats 246 (Non TATL Ver. 2)

The 764 seats 287 (non TATL Ver. 1)

and none of these matter as they are all gone or will be very soon.

Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 19):

Can the A333 do JFK-TLV non-stop?

Don't think so.

Quoting JFK787NYC (Reply 19):
I think Delta really needs to upgrade there service given there competing with EL AL and Continental which both have better offerings.

over the summer they will be running a 777(both ERs and LRs) on it.



yep.
User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 5978 times:



Quoting DeltaLVr (Reply 16):
hope this isnt an "April Fools" Joke =p

'

Its not the A333 will fly MSP-ATL-LGW-ATL-MSP and one will fly ATL-FCO.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 9):
and that really shouldn't surprise anyone, at least anyone who understands the DL operation in ATL.



Quoting Planefxr (Reply 17):
I really don't see this as some conspiracy theory against NW routes, but It might have something to do with the fact that ATL handles more pax than DTW and MSP combined

What I was getting at is that there seem to be more efficient connection opportunities that they wouldn't necissarily need to the capacity in ATL. For example I was looking at fares from MSP to several NE cities on NW's website a while back, all of the first top 10 results that I got for cheapest fare were flying Delta through Atlanta to go to Boston... instead of either non-stop or DTW, they do this a lot with several European cities as well, I realize some are ATL unique but there are a lot that are not like FCO etc. So instead of routing them MSP-ATL-FCO, do MSP-DTW-FCO.



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User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 5202 times:
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Quoting Indio66 (Reply 13):
What are the chances we see a Delta 744 from ATL to AMS?

I don't know about AMS, but on the Atlanta Journal-Constitution website, last night, there was an article about Delta flying the 747, noting that the first flight out of ATL on the 744 was today, ATL-HNL (today's DL 803).

That would, I believe, be the first ATL Delta 747 departure since the early 70s.

- litz


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