Quote: The review will include the first showing of its finalised rear-galley design. Airbus had initially hoped to firm the design at the definition-freeze stage, but has been continuing to work on it after preparing a “very innovative” initial design.
“[Customers] preferred a more traditional galley arrangement, so we have changed a little bit the rear galley arrangement,” says Airbus senior marketing analyst, customer affairs, Florian Giusti, although he will not be drawn on the final configuration.
Khobar From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2379 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18762 times:
Interesting - he talks about the ability to have 10-abreast, then talks about people getting wider and taller. He says it's because it is XWB - extra wide body(ied) but fails to mention the XWB is narrower than the 777.
It will be interesting to see how the final product turns out - hope it's good.
OldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3549 posts, RR: 67
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 18211 times:
Ironic that the A350XWB has an over-head crew rest after JL's comments on the 777 over-head crew rest.
Quoted from the attached link:
He still relishes taking pot shots at Boeing. At the ISTAT conference, he contrasted the spacious proposed crew rest area underneath the A350 cockpit with the 777's crew rest area, which is in the crawl space above the passenger cabin — or as Leahy described it to laughter from the audience, "putting the flight crew in the overhead bins."
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31135 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 18117 times:
Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 6): Ironic that the A350XWB has an over-head crew rest after JL's comments on the 777 over-head crew rest...Guess the pilots weren't too happy about sleeping in the basement after all.
I wonder how happy A350 operators will be about giving up one or more revenue seats in their premium cabin to allow the relief crew to eat and relax. Boeing's factory 777 overhead rest area has seats for that, but it looks like the A350X's does not from that video.
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6496 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 18003 times:
Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 6): Ironic that the A350XWB has an over-head crew rest after JL's comments on the 777 over-head crew rest.
Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 6): Guess the pilots weren't too happy about sleeping in the basement after all.
My $0.02: Pilots were never asked. The airline bean counters spotted potential cargo volume occupied by crew rest area, and...
Airbus will place the crew rest area where the most customers want it. Airbus dosn't care. They just want to sell planes.
And if you want to buy half a dozen A350 with underfloor crew rest area, then sure you will get exactly what you ask for.
This video doesn't demonstrate THE A350. It just shows some options.
Shame on those airlines who opt for nine abreast in Y class, And maybe also shame on those airlines who opt to put the relief crew in the overhead bin to make them able to take along one more cargo container.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
RedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4376 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12753 times:
Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 11): The main point is to be careful what you mock as you may end up there yourself some day.
Well, I remember at one time the entire 787 project initiative was mocked by the renowned JL. And now Airbus is putting together what might amount to nothing more than a "Chinese copy" of it.
On another note, on the video, the Airbus interior manager makes the comment, when asked what that space above the cabin is: "This is a very interesting concept..." and goes on to explain the crew rest area. He makes it sound as though it is something that's never been done before on an airplane. I'm not being critical of his comments - he is a VERY good salesman. He doesn't talk about the fact that it's already an established feature on LR aircraft; just talks about it so that an unfamiliar ear will think that it's a first in aviation. Great sales technique. Wish I could afford to hire him.
HAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2565 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12543 times:
Quoting MIgAiR54 (Reply 13): but I don´t like the 3-3-3 in Y, IMO 2-5-2 is better.
Having ridden for years on DC-10's with 5 across in the middle, I'd definitely opt for the 3-3-3 instead. Sitting in that middle seat where you are two seats away in either direction from an aisle is insane. Avoid it at all costs!
One smooth landing is skill. Two in a row is luck. Three in a row and someone is lying.
And shame on this salesman for implying that 9-abreast on an A350 will somehow be more comfortable than 8-abreast on an A330 for people who are getting - he tells us - taller and broader. Retaining 8-abreast for a wider plane would achieve that. This concept certainly won't.
Frigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1660 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10493 times:
Quoting PM (Reply 20): Quoting 2707200X (Reply 16):
You can hardly fit 10 abrest in a 777 how are you going to do it in an A350?
They aren't planning to - at least, not in this model.
Actually, they are: "for the leisure market" (if I understood correctly). And I believe Air Caraibes already has firm plans to have their A350-1000 with 10 abreast. Not surprisingly, since they operate their A330's 9 abreast today So, the 'comfort' level will be about the same. Not something to look forward to on a transatlantic flight
797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1896 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9295 times:
Is it just me or I saw a massive winglet displayed on this model?
I believe the A350 will be using some sort of racked wingtips like the ones on the 787, right?
Anyhow, I believe this plane looked very nice. I doubt, however, that it will come out of the factory just like they've been showing it lately. We've all been victims with the 787, which is still not out of the oven!
Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is what's dangerous!
: Yeah, that was pretty funny, basically he said that the reason they made it an XWB was for the future when the average height of passengers will be t
: Just to be clear, that quote belongs to the insider trading suspect and former EADS co-CEO, Noel Forgeard.
: My understanding is that they had to put the crew rest in the "basement" because the A330 (old A350 x section) is just not wide enough to put it over
: The A350XWB as far as I am aware was not offered with the under the cockpit floor compartment, that was back with the A350OG, that used the A330/A340
: The A350XWB's overhead crew rest looks awfully claustrophobic to me. No headroom whatsoever!
: Overhead crew rests are a standard option on the 777, as are lower lobe (basement) crew rests. No one orders the later anymore as they reduce cargo v
: OAG, It is an option on the 777 nevertheless. As far as I recall, it is a BE Aerospace crew rest, not Boeing, http://www.beaerospace.com/PDF/FSI_DR_1_
: BE Aerospace is the STC holder for the overheard crew rests fitted post production to BA 777-200ER's and few other airlines. That's what the press re
: Any chance we'll see them show up on the SJC run?
: One look at that First Class cabin and I ask, is that the inside of an airplane or a restaurant?
: Maybe Airbus wanted to steal a bit of thunder from the folks behind the 787 DreamDiner?