Hornet From Spain, joined Feb 2000, 17 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 5659 times:
Hello,
We are a group of classic airliners enthusiasts in Spain intending to restore an old Convair 990 “Coronado” aircraft.
The aircraft in question is registered in Spain as EC-BZO and was owned by the Spanish charter airline SPANTAX (1959-1988). The aircraft in question was built in 1962 and was bought by American Airlines, who later sold it to Spantax in 1972. These aircraft remained operating until 1987 and was the last operational Coronado of the company until its final demise.
This Coronado has been stored for 22 years at a remote apron of Palma de Mallorca airport. After all these years the aircraft has been transferred to a Spanish aeronautical Foundation known as “Fundación Aeronáutica Mallorquina” of which we are members.
At this stage, we have met a group of aviation related people to create a group of qualified personnel composed of aeronautical engineers, ground mechanics, pilots, etc. who voluntarily are wishing to contribute in order to restore this exceptional aircraft.
We also are producing some memorabilia on this theme, such as stickers, t-shirts, etc.
ClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4520 posts, RR: 26 Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5475 times:
Quoting Hornet (Thread starter): At this stage, we have met a group of aviation related people to create a group of qualified personnel composed of aeronautical engineers, ground mechanics, pilots, etc. who voluntarily are wishing to contribute in order to restore this exceptional aircraft.
Good luck with that - it's an aircraft worth saving!!
I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5048 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 2): When you get done, let the airport management at ELP know what a gem they have sitting on the ramp there:
It was flown in in 1996, and was fully airworthy...
Lot's of museums have tried to get this airplane but the owner owes the airport in back tie down fee's and other fee's so it has a lean againist it. The owner has been contacted many times, but he wants what he paid he it. The way it's going this engine will be cut up. As for airworthy, It was flown in 1992 and now has a bad fuel control on #3 because this airplane was just parked and not preserved. Good luck finding parts for CJ805-23's since I count 16 in the world, and 4 of them are on this airplane.
Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4988 times:
Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4760 times:
Quoting CV990Coronado (Reply 5): The ex NASA one isn't that in somewhere at Mojave and does anyone know what condition its in ?
Ship #29 the NASA airplane in Mojave is now a gate guard and has had parts robbed off it off Ship #2 the ex ASPA airplane that FOX Network bought in 1999 to crash for a TV special. The TV show didn't get filmed and Ship #2 is intact in Mojave which the airport leases out for film work in movies and or commercials. Between ship #2 and ship #29 you could get a 990 flying if you had millions of dollars to pour into the fuel tank.
Since we Canadians up here botched keeping an original TCA/Air Canada Constellation up here (but thankyou to the Museum of Flight for restoring her to original TCA colourscheme)... perhaps we should save her from her sleep in Texas, and bring her back up here? hmmm
Good Luck to you all in Spain. The 990 Coronado was an important aircraft for Spantex, and I loved both colourschemes on her!
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Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 4664 times:
Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 7): El Paso you say? Convair 990 you say?
Well heck, my hunch was correct...prior to Denver Port of Call, this same ship served for the Canadian operator Nordair:
Since we Canadians up here botched keeping an original TCA/Air Canada Constellation up here (but thankyou to the Museum of Flight for restoring her to original TCA colourscheme)... perhaps we should save her from her sleep in Texas, and bring her back up here? hmmm
Too bad that little airline east of ELP couldn't save her for the CR Smith Museum considering she was their airplane first.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5929 posts, RR: 4 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4533 times:
Quoting Boeing767mech (Reply 8): Too bad that little airline east of ELP couldn't save her for the CR Smith Museum considering she was their airplane first.
David
The Tower Museum in HOU had a pretty good go, the deal fell apart at the last minute when they were unable to secure insurance for a ferry flight from ELP to HOU
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MEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4117 posts, RR: 37 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4472 times:
Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 7): Since we Canadians up here botched keeping an original TCA/Air Canada Constellation up here (but thankyou to the Museum of Flight for restoring her to original TCA colourscheme)... perhaps we should save her from her sleep in Texas, and bring her back up here? hmmm
Canada never had a special relationship with the Convair 990... If two places deserve a preserved Convair, it's Palma because Spantax was the airline flying it the longest and most, and American's museum in Dallas as it was the launch operator.
Thinking of Canadian aviation I thinkof DC-4s, CL-44s, DHC's, C-46s, DC-8s, 732s and HS-748s instead, there are some aviation museums and they should try to preserve one of each.
nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2844 posts, RR: 11 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4261 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 9): Quoting Boeing767mech (Reply 8):
Too bad that little airline east of ELP couldn't save her for the CR Smith Museum considering she was their airplane first.
David
The Tower Museum in HOU had a pretty good go, the deal fell apart at the last minute when they were unable to secure insurance for a ferry flight from ELP to HOU
Did not know that. I guess that issue would kill just about any flight then?
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5929 posts, RR: 4 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4153 times:
Quoting 4holer (Reply 11): Did not know that. I guess that issue would kill just about any flight then?
Well, I'm kind of wondering, in light of a new piece of information I found out in this thread:
Quoting Boeing767mech (Reply 3): As for airworthy, It was flown in 1992 and now has a bad fuel control on #3 because this airplane was just parked and not preserved. Good luck finding parts for CJ805-23's since I count 16 in the world, and 4 of them are on this airplane.
I'm wondering if they proposed doing a 3-engine ferry (legal in a quad, as long as only required crew is aboard) and that's why the insurance companies balked at insuring the ferry flight A 3-engine ferry, on a type that NOBODY has flown in years, by a flight crew who's probably a little rusty on CV990 procedures, is a little risky...
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Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3907 times:
Quoting Alessandro (Reply 13): I guess it´s Boeing
whom owns the rights to those planes and they have revoked the flightlicens, just like Airbus done on the Caravelle and Concorde.
Why would Boeing care about a Convair aircraft they don't have any interest in them. Convair was bought by General Dynamics which in turn was bought by Lockheed.
The Type Cert. was bought and sold lots of times. I have heard the owner of the 880/990 TC is the person that was going to restore Convair 880 SN#23. I know for a fact this person has every Blueprint in a semi truck on the 880 and 990.
United_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7157 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3813 times:
I remember reading about the guy trying to restore the CV880 that was used in 'The Rookie',in MHV. Never heard any more about it. Can one even be flown on something other than a ferry permit?
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Boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
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A 3-engine ferry, on a type that NOBODY has flown in years, by a flight crew who's probably a little rusty on CV990 procedures, is a little risky... 
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