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Lufthansa AB6 Retirement  
User currently offlineSQ773 From Spain, joined Apr 2005, 200 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13467 times:

Hi There ,

It seems to be more concrete information inside the company about the proposed retirement of Lufthansa´s AB6 fleet.

Now there are 7 AB6 still operating. The rest are grounded in DRS ( I would say there is another one as back up, but I´m not 100 % sure about it )

1st Phase : July 2009

From July, 4 of them will be grounded. 3 will remain flying.

2 will be used exclusively for intra german routes and one for european routes. ( I guess BCN, and ATH mainly )

2nd Phase : November 2009

1 will be grounded. The remaining 2 will be flying only intra german routes

3rd Phase : December 2009

The last two operating AB6 will leave the fleet.

So, if everything goes as planned, we will see the end of Lufthansa´s AB6 in 8 months
 frown   Sad

Those birds will be missed !

Rumours are that they will be sold to DHL .

Rgds

SQ773

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User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9536 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13444 times:

I just looked up my log and the A300 all series is at 172 flights ranking #4. There will likely not be too many more flights in that magnificent aircraft. Sad indeed, but that's the way things go. Without the recession the AB6 fleet might have had another 2 or 3 years in the LH fleet, but now the retirement is only logic.

DHL can take the a/c either for growth or for replacement of older A300s.



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User currently offlineLh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2375 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 13405 times:
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In the last weeks the AB6 flew some routings like the saturday run to MUC, some 10% yield legs to HAM or a shuttle to Lugano due to winds ... Nothing too spectacular and nothing that justifies the name Kontschaufel. I glew countless legs on them and it was always nice to see the confused Y pax being assigned J seats due to weight & balance and aervice convenience  Wink

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User currently offlineLh526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2375 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 13266 times:
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Quoting SQ773 (Thread starter):
I guess BCN, and ATH mainly

Also, add the Malta Cargo run to that.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 13001 times:



Quoting SQ773 (Thread starter):
So, if everything goes as planned, we will see the end of Lufthansa´s AB6 in 8 months

I'm really happy I got my first flights on the a300 last weekend. I flew FRA-ATH-FRA. The FRA-ATH leg was with D-AIAL.

We had a VERY hard landing in ATH by the way... the pilot apologized afterward. Seems he retarded the throttle way too early.

The FRA-ATH was on D-AIAX.

I loved the aircraft. Gotta love the 2-4-2 setup.

The FRA-ATH route (March 26) had a 100% LF in Y. Not sure about C (or J, whichever). The ATH-FRA leg (March 29) was 95% full in Y, but nobody upfront.

Anyway, really sad these aircraft will go. Not all are that old. D-AIAL for example is 22 years old, but I was surprised to learn that D-AIAX is a little over 12 years old!!!



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User currently offlineUA933 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 12858 times:

The A300 will stay in the fleet for a few more years. Had a chat with a guy from LH strategy this week and he said that the 343s will go before the A300s will finaly retire. Currently grounded A/Cs will be brought back into the fleet once the industry pics up again.


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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 62
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12830 times:



Quoting UA933 (Reply 5):
The A300 will stay in the fleet for a few more years. Had a chat with a guy from LH strategy this week and he said that the 343s will go before the A300s will finaly retire. Currently grounded A/Cs will be brought back into the fleet once the industry pics up again.

I find that a little bit hard to believe.

They have loads of A343s and nothing to replace them until they make a decision on the 787 or A350 - i doubt they'll keep the A300s until the A343's replacements arrive.



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User currently offlineColumba From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 7078 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12818 times:



Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 6):
Quoting UA933 (Reply 5):
The A300 will stay in the fleet for a few more years. Had a chat with a guy from LH strategy this week and he said that the 343s will go before the A300s will finaly retire. Currently grounded A/Cs will be brought back into the fleet once the industry pics up again.

I find that a little bit hard to believe.

They have loads of A343s and nothing to replace them until they make a decision on the 787 or A350 - i doubt they'll keep the A300s until the A343's replacements arrive.

I find it hard to believe as well but yaybe the guy from LH knows a bit more on the upcoming 787/A350 decision. Le Bourget is near and Airbus could need some good PR.



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User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1389 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12713 times:



Quoting UA933 (Reply 5):
the 343s will go before the A300s will finaly retire

Aren't they currently in the process of adding Y-PTVs to their A340-300 fleet? If they'd go that soon, I would be surprised if LH made that investment. Maybe some of them going to OS? (one can dream, right  blush  ?).



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User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2375 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 12686 times:
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Quoting AustrianZRH (Reply 8):
Aren't they currently in the process of adding Y-PTVs to their A340-300 fleet? If they'd go that soon, I would be surprised if LH made that investment. Maybe some of them going to OS? (one can dream, right    ?).

Yes, The A343 series is currently undergoing PTV installations in Y (one by one as checks are lined up). However, they just recently upgraded the A300 seats in the last years including using old C class seats on the AB6, so there's improvement everywhere.
I think UA933 refers to the very first A343 airframes to be retired soon, so the last AB6 will leave the fleet with, let's say the 4th A343 ...

However, LH is storing more frames, 2 LHC MD-11 (along with D-ALCP and D-ALC?) wil go to DRS

Mario
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User currently offlinePurpleBox From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 325 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12627 times:



Quoting UA933 (Reply 5):
The A300 will stay in the fleet for a few more years. Had a chat with a guy from LH strategy this week and he said that the 343s will go before the A300s will finaly retire. Currently grounded A/Cs will be brought back into the fleet once the industry pics up again.

Hard to believe - once their entirely gone they will be gone for good as the cost of keeping crew current will be too high.

What's the market like for the A300-600 at present?

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User currently offlineNicoEDDF From Germany, joined Jan 2008, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12530 times:



Quoting UA933 (Reply 5):
The A300 will stay in the fleet for a few more years.

Ehm...absolutely not. My info on this is the total opposite. We'll see, I guess...

Quoting LH526 (Reply 9):
However, LH is storing more frames, 2 LHC MD-11 (along with D-ALCP and D-ALC?) wil go to DRS

A-ALCE is already in DRS, unfortunately...


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7694 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12481 times:

I assume that you mean D-ALCE?  Smile

User currently offlineHT From Germany, joined May 2005, 6525 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12358 times:



Quoting Lh526 (Reply 2):
a shuttle to Lugano due to winds

An A300 into LUG ?
Is that confirmed ?
-HT



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User currently offlineJorge1812 From Germany, joined Apr 2004, 3149 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 12330 times:



Quoting NicoEDDF (Reply 11):
A-ALCE is already in DRS, unfortunately...



Quoting NicoEDDF (Reply 11):
I assume that you mean D-ALCE?

And LEJ. An MD-11 at DRS would be too cool. D-AIAN left DRS on the 1st bound fro KBP. D-AIAS is still stored and I think another one is in the EADS hangars.


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User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2375 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12252 times:
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Quoting HT (Reply 13):
An A300 into LUG ?
Is that confirmed ?

Sorry, I ment Torino! It's been a long flight, shouldn't post after a transcon  Wink



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User currently offlineBuyantUkhaa From Mongolia, joined May 2004, 2907 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 12181 times:

What about D-AIAU? I flew on it some time ago, was wondering about it.


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User currently offlineNa From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12040 times:

Besides the A320 I´ve probably had most flights on LHs A300s. Its sad that the most comfortable shorthaul planes, though they are getting old, are leaving the fleet and all inner-European routes from now on will be operated by single-aisle aircraft.  Sad
I hope that one day we will see LH widebodies on the short trunk routes again.  crossfingers 
Personally I would prefer them to cut frequencies and use more comfortable aiplanes instead!


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 12042 times:



Quoting HT (Reply 13):
An A300 into LUG ?
Is that confirmed ?



Quoting LH526 (Reply 15):
Sorry, I ment Torino! It's been a long flight, shouldn't post after a transcon

Aha ok. Because a A 300 can definitely not land in LUG.


User currently offlineBabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11800 times:



Quoting Na (Reply 17):
Personally I would prefer them to cut frequencies and use more comfortable aiplanes instead!

I've been thinking the same thing. Instead of having 6 or more flights a day somewhere, airlines could just run fewer services on bigger planes. Just like they did in the 80s. There ain't that much J class traffic these days.

I really enjoyed flying LH's A300. They feel like long haul aircraft and make my short haul hops more exciting.


User currently offlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2375 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 10244 times:
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Quoting Babybus (Reply 19):
I've been thinking the same thing. Instead of having 6 or more flights a day somewhere, airlines could just run fewer services on bigger planes. Just like they did in the 80s. There ain't that much J class traffic these days.

Well, it all has to d with flightplan comonality, transit passengers and total travel time.
Many pax are transit passengers so e.g. the ATH-FRA or LHR-FRA leg ist just one out of possibly two or three of their entire journey. With this in mind a maximum on flight options with the least possible transfertime is the highest aim of any airline's ops department.

So to push your envelope ... it's like saying 'squeeze all flights a week and substitute them with an A380 flight FRA-LHR on monday, wednesday and saturday ... you see it won't work for a variety of reasons, above only one example.

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User currently offlineYAK42 From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 801 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9737 times:



Quoting Jorge1812 (Reply 14):
D-AIAN left DRS on the 1st bound fro KBP.

Purchased by/for Mahan Air

Quoting BuyantUkhaa (Reply 16):
What about D-AIAU? I flew on it some time ago, was wondering about it.

Still flying with LH.

According to CH Aviation .

D-AIAI was scrapped. Anyone know why?


User currently offlineQazar From Canada, joined May 2006, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9518 times:

I'm really sad the A300s will be gone... It's like living through the phase out of the A310s all over again.

I remember my first flight ever was on a LH A310-200 out of Cairo back in the early 80s. This is why the A310 holds the place of my favourite airplane of all time - purely sentimental. When we moved to Montreal, I was actually really happy that Lufthansa eventually deployed the A310-300 on the route allowing me to fly my favourite plane. (By the way, Montreal started with the DC-10, which was downgraded to the A300, then the A310 before it was removed from the LH network back in 1995. Only in the past few years was the route re-instated as a seasonal summer service out of Munich with A340-300, then A330-300).

With time, the smaller A310 was replaced by the larger A300, on the Cairo route (with the opposite happening on the Montreal route - going from an A300 to the smaller A310). The A300 eventually became the workhorse of the Frankfurt-Cairo leg during the second half of the 80s and the 90s. When the A300 started disappearing from Cairo, to be replaced by the A340/A330, I became really sad and resorted flying it intra European to TXL and LHR. I remember boarding the A300 on a FRA-TXL, and seeing the aircraft re-configured in the all European cabin layout, and thinking back to its majesty days as it flew the airline's transcontinental routes to Montreal, Philadelphia, Boston, Addis Abeba, Khartoum, Cairo, and many destinations in the Middle East.

The A300 leaves the LH fleet with its head held high, and a league of fans waiving it Adieu!


User currently onlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9536 posts, RR: 31
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9321 times:



Quoting Qazar (Reply 22):
By the way, Montreal started with the DC-10, which was downgraded to the A300, then the A310 before it was removed

not the A300 topic, but slight correction, I flew FRA-YMX in 76 oand 77 and at least in one year, might have been 76, it was a B707.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25653 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (5 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9274 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 23):
Quoting Qazar (Reply 22):
By the way, Montreal started with the DC-10, which was downgraded to the A300, then the A310 before it was removed

not the A300 topic, but slight correction, I flew FRA-YMX in 76 oand 77 and at least in one year, might have been 76, it was a B707.

In addition to Montreal, LH used the A300 to Philadelphia for a while if memory correct.


25 AwysBSB : Any rumors involving museum? A300s were remarkable in Lufthansa's fleet.
26 BBADXB : I wonder if LH will be putting on extra flights to Malta for the peak summer months, or whether they will rely on Airmalta to provide the extra capaci
27 Kappel : Indeed, and since last week, I have become one of those fans! The a300 has an important place in aviation history, and LH history. At least one shoul
28 Ikramerica : It will be A332 + A321 as a replacement, depending on the route length and cargo/pax demand on the route.
29 Columba : Make it A333 and you are right.....
30 TimRees : A300s have been flying into LHR again this week (with the summer schedule start)
31 LXA340 : Will the B744's or at least some of the newer ones also receive PTV in Y? Regarding the A300 upgrade, it wasn't really a big investment as the seats
32 Airbuseric : Flew this one last year too, magnificent aircraft! Powerful and very comfortable. I'm happy that I was able to fly on the LH AB6 at least once. Now t
33 Bennett123 : Yak42 Do you know if D-AIAN has been re registered as EP-??? yet.
34 Qazar : Actually, Ikramerica may have a point. With the A310s and A300s, LH has demonstrated that they dispatch those widebodies on their intercontinental ne
35 Jfk777 : Lufthansa's A300 replacement is the Singapore solution, misuse of intercontinetal airplanes. A330-300 from FRA to LHR, Cairo and others. A300 also fly
36 LH526 : Yes, point is however that the A330 is way to large (wingspan, ...) to be used for the regular stands at e.g. TXL. Definitely not! Almaty is mostly s
37 LXA340 : Most A332's of LX have already new leasing / purchasing airlines of whom non is LH. The reason LH will not use A333s to operate routes within germany
38 Thorben : I saw one land in TXL today (couldn't see the reg). Will be very sad to see them go. What can replace them? Will A321s be sufficient? It is 190 agains
39 Kappel : Indeed, on mine too. What would be the best option for us living in the NL? CSA? Yep, I was in 34A (emergency exit seat) so I was very comfortable as
40 Viscount724 : That would be a very uneconomic and inefficient use of resources. Don't forget that landing fees are based on maximum takeoff weight which is about 4
41 Ikramerica : I stand by the A332. A333 is just too large as an A300 replacement for most routes. LH could take the Swiss A332s as well as source used A332s for th
42 LH526 : With so many aircraft types drying out in the pipe for being wrong for the market (A345, B764, 736...) I wonder why nobody ever thought about that sp
43 Ikramerica : Because most airlines are happy enough with the 757, 737-800/900ER and A321 filling this role with more frequency.
44 Columba : There is a charter airline in Portugal called "White" which uses ex Tap A310s. LH will not take any A332s. They have no need for them. It is too smal
45 Thorben : I doubt there will be much rebuilding at TXL. Remember that it is supposed to close in 2-3 years. My guess would be that LH flies the A306 until they
46 Stylo777 : the difference is that SQ has only the 333 as their smallest aircraft, but LH has the 321. you all talking about cargo demand on the AB6. please tell
47 LH526 : MLA, ATH!!! Right Thorben, off course there will be no gate improvements in TXL .... I more had Heathrow in mind. Right, but if slot restrictions ham
48 Thorben : SQ has MI with A319/320. If KUL A330 service wasn't viable, then SQ would leave it to MI. I guess there is enough cargo from Frankfurt to Berlin, con
49 ZRH : I doubt that with the new SXF the problems will be solved. Many aviation experts predict that the new airport already will be too small when it opens
50 Thorben : We should keep things separate here. One issue is the possibility to fly A330s to the new SXF, which is certainly better than to fly them to TXL, wer
51 Qazar : hmmm... interesting. Thanks for the input! You seem to know quite a bit about this, and your explanation actually makes sense, but it also raises 2 q
52 BBADXB : It seems that KM/LH have come up with a temporary makeshift solution for MLA. Apart from the usual DHL B757F operating the Saturday night / Sunday mor
53 Columba : FRA-TXL, FRA-MUC and FRA-HAM have lot of cargo demand. Keep in mind that LH Cargo is one of the biggest cargo operators and LH mainline carries a lot
54 YAK42 : I dont know. Perhaps going to Khors Aircompany of Ukraine whose main business is aircraft leases and re-selling to Iranian airlines. But im not sure.
55 BuyantUkhaa : A much more convenient option is SATA Internacional, that flies A310 several times daily from Lisbon to the Azores and beyond. Flying to the Azores w
56 Ikramerica : Slot restrictions are an artificial market constraint and are limited to certain airports and markets. Because of this, it isn't financially viable f
57 CARST : I still believe there will be some sort of 787-3 at one point or another. And that aircraft will be certified in Europe, too. The market for such an p
58 LXA340 : That is a good question, I mean flights such as SIN-KUL/ Jakarta or HKG-MNL are quite short flights however most other destinations that SQ and CS se
59 A350 : I wonder why nobody is speaking about OS's 6 767s. If a 100%-takeover and a fleet renewal happens, those birds would be a very nice intermediate solut
60 Viscount724 : And SQ has Silk Air and their A319/320 fleet. SQ did operate 4 757-200s for aobut 5 years in the 1980s but I think they decided that it wasn't cost-e
61 Ikramerica : The 783 will never fly. Now, is there some new, 785 in the works some day to replace the 4000nm widebody market? I think there may be. But not until 2
62 Thorben : How would they really be an improvement over the A306? Not just in Europe, I can see it in the domestic US market, too. Are you so sure? Once Boeing
63 Ikramerica : I believe the talk of ANA taking 12 of the first 20 787s (and possibly 3-4 of the 6 test frames) would indicate that they may no longer want to wait
64 Columba : The only one I can think off would be that the OS 767 have less cycles and therefore lower maintenance costs than the A306. But still this is an unli
65 Ikramerica : Another thing to note here is that they could increase A330 utilization by doing this kind of turn. For example, an A330 doing an international red-e
66 LH526 : And even if it dos, there still is a good decade gap between the LH AB6 phaseout and the first B783 EIS ....
67 Post contains links and images Thorben : NH hasn't cancelled them yet, I wouldn't expect it to be imminent. Seriously, the 783 might as well have a future outside of Japan, in Europe, the US
68 Ikramerica : Not as currently defined it won't. But one we often talk about here on a.net, with 5000nm still air range, might, especially if Airbus proceeds with
69 LH526 : Well, the LH B763 (there was only one at a time) had a total different niche in the market and ahd more to do with Market rights, flying permits etc
70 LXA340 : You need the plane at leas once 1.5 hours on the ground for proper cleaning and technical checks. Hence the schedule would be to tight and additional
71 Ikramerica : Aircraft are meant to produce revenue. Planes on the ground can't do that. I actually accounted for 2 hours on the ground per turn. 7.5 hour flight +
72 LH526 : Well, given exact figures, my guess is that a 3hrs total block time FRA-TXL-FRA would earn some revenue, but the additional costs like fees, addition
73 Post contains links and images Jorge1812 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Georg Noack D-AIAN taxiing out for it's last departure with Lufthansa Crew at the controls bound for KBP. georg
74 A300 : I have seen rumors that this aircraft is on its way to Mahan. Anyone knows anything more? This aircraft would have cockpit commonality with their A31
75 Ikramerica : then why fly at all? obviously, flying short flights is a money loser, so why do airlines do it? why do they do it now with the A300? if you use an A
76 Post contains links and images YAK42 : Does anyone have an idea why D-AIAI was scrapped? View Large View MediumPhoto © A J Best
77 Jorge1812 : Me too. How far is KBP related to Mahan? Or is there a paintshop or similar at KBP? georg
78 LH526 : It's a little more complicated. Let's take a worst case scenario: Let's assume a short haul FRA-TXL-FRA everyday of a given month for an A330 along w
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