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How Is V Australia Doing @ LAX?  
User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 15968 times:

Just alittle over a month ago VA started service to LAX. Wanted to know how they are doing and what the service is like?



Questions I have:

1.) How is the route doing considering they are up against QF and UA?
2.) What are load factors like in all classes? (Business, Premium Econ, & Economy)
3.) How is the service/flight crews, meals, IFE?

Just wondering where they park and deplane/board at LAX? TBIT?

I'm planning a trip to AU this fall in early October and wanted to know why I would want to book VA over QF? The pricing is $1,441.56 r/t with taxes for 2 tickets in economy. Was wondering how they are with upgrading passengers?



Any and all comments welcome... Would love to try them over QF if they have better offerings and good service.


Thanks,


Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la terre.
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User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15879 times:

VA isn't just a choice on the LAX-SYD route, it's the only choice and the only way to go.

Can't speak much for 1 and 2 although the load for LAX-SYD on 23 March was a bit light (150-175 pax), SYD-LAX on 30 March was quite a bit more full (about 300 pax)

The Virgin experience begins as you walk onto the aircraft. On my LAX-SYD flight, they had the lighting set to purple light, needless to say it was at that moment that I realized this wasn't just any airline.. certainly not Qantas or United.

In-flight service was top notch. Frequent service as well as a fully stocked self service minibar with soft drinks and snacks. F/As consisted of mainly Australians who were cheerful and very helpful. There were two meal services (Dinner and Breakfast) with a selection of Chicken or Beef for dinner and a Fratada/Pancake choice for breakfast.

The best part of the flight was the IFE. The RED inflight entertainment system had quite a large selection of new movies (Eagle Eye, Slumdog Millionaire, etc) TV Series (The Simpsons, Family Guy, The Office, etc), Single and Multiplayer games (Battleship, Tetris, etc) as well as a pretty extensive cd/radio selection.

All of the seats are wired together so it's possible to play multiplayer games as well as chat with your fellow seatmates, although I was a bit disappointed none of the passengers took advantage of the Chat functionality.

The only blemish to an otherwise excellent V Australia experience was the seat comfort. It felt as if the seats in economy were a little too firm for my liking. One possible explanation I suppose seeing as how the airline is so new, the seats have yet to be 'broken in'

Depart out of Terminal 3 (Make to sure to allow plenty of time for connections, my brother and I almost missed our VA flight because our WN flight was late!) V arrives at TBIT.

I highly recommend VA, I wish them the absolute best and wouldn't hesitate to take them again to Australia, even if I had to pay a slight premium.

Hope this helps and all the best with your holiday



Formula 1 Grand Prix Trips: YUL '08, MEL '09, BCN '10, SIN '11, and LGW '12
User currently offlineJetfuel From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 2216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 15836 times:

Brand new enthusiatsic crew and B773 or old cranky crew and 20 year old 747? easy choice. V Australia everytime


Where's the passion gone out of the airline industry? The smell of jetfuel and the romance of taking a flight....
User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3054 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15814 times:

Can't answer any of your 3 numbered questions. But, I believe VA land at TBIT, but depart from Terminal 3.

They use the same terminal as VX, but arrive at TBIT due to the lack of arrival immigration at T3.

-CXfirst



From Norway, live in Australia
User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15807 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
1.) How is the route doing considering they are up against QF and UA?
2.) What are load factors like in all classes? (Business, Premium Econ, & Economy)
3.) How is the service/flight crews, meals, IFE?

I beleive loads are on track but it is yield that is down... but tyhat is to be expectied I guess witht he GFC. Have been watching the GDS over the past week and towards the end of the day the J cabin seems to be nearly sold out ie J1D0I0 on a few days.

I've also heard the service is pretty good and crew are very enthusiastic!


User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 15794 times:



Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 2):
Brand new enthusiatsic crew and B773 or old cranky crew and 20 year old 747? easy choice. V Australia everytime

I have no doubt that V Australia is much better then United. I have never flown Qantas. But I have to admit that I would probably still take United for the same price because I am not rich enough to throw away 15,000 *A miles.


User currently offlineJfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8325 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15233 times:
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Any news on how the Business Class is compared to Virgin Atlantic since the seats are different ?

User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15149 times:

There have been deep discounts between the US and OZ to fill the number of seats in the market now and what remains to come. It shouldn't be hard to get loads up but yields could take years to reach sustainable levels outside of the most peak periods.

User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 15115 times:



Quoting National757 (Reply 1):
The RED inflight entertainment system

That is the same system that VX uses, correct?



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User currently offlineNational757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 720 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14693 times:



Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 8):
That is the same system that VX uses, correct?

Yes, you are correct! On the Acknowledgment page in the About Us section of the IFE, VX was one of the entities thanked for their role in the development of V Australia's version of the same system.



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5893 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14602 times:
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So why aren't all of the Virgin products intertwined? In other words, it seems funny that when you go on V Australia's website and try to book SEA-LAX-SYD, it puts you on an AS flight as opposed to a VX flight. I haven't heard if one could book SEA-SFO-LHR on VX and VA.

Is V Australia going to "code-share" with VX? It only sounds natural. Can a V Australia passenger connect to a Virgin Atlantic flight via LAX? It only seems natural. Can a Virgin Atlantic passenger connect to a VX flight? It only seems natural.

But it doesn't seem like their connected.


User currently offlineDescendVia From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 14493 times:



Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 2):
Brand new enthusiatsic crew and B773 or old cranky crew and 20 year old 747? easy choice.

Nice.......  Yeah sure

Tell you something, if you only went through half the crap some have been put through (especially the FAs), you would know why some are a bit "cranky" as you say.

While "new" is nice, experience still counts. (I hope)


User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3609 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14248 times:



Quoting Jetfuel (Reply 2):
Brand new enthusiatsic crew and B773 or old cranky crew and 20 year old 747? easy choice. V Australia everytime

The 380 will soon be daily LAX-SYD. As I understand it, the 380 fleet has a separate crew pool from the rest of the QF fleet - when I flew LAX-SYD on the 380 the majority of the crew members were 20-40 yo and seemed happy with their jobs.

As long as you're flying the 380, I don't see any benefits from flying Virgin over QF - at least not as presented here.



PHX based
User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8998 posts, RR: 75
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 14242 times:



Quoting BoeingFever777 (Thread starter):
2.) What are load factors like in all classes? (Business, Premium Econ, & Economy)

Second hand information I heard was that forward bookings were down around 40% LF level.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15729 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13520 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 10):
Is V Australia going to "code-share" with VX? It only sounds natural. Can a V Australia passenger connect to a Virgin Atlantic flight via LAX? It only seems natural.

It's probably best that way. If VA and VX get too close, it could attract unwanted attention from the US government.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineOzTech From Australia, joined Feb 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 13324 times:



Quoting Zeke (Reply 13):
Second hand information I heard was that forward bookings were down around 40% LF level.

Friend just got back from LAX and commented that his Business Class section had only about 2 spare each way, cattle class was about 75% and Premium Economy about 60%. This was same in both directions...



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User currently offlineCptspeaking From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 639 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12679 times:



Quoting National757 (Reply 1):

I had the same sort of experience on VX a couple weeks ago IAD-LAX-IAD...couldn't say enough about it!

Left LAX just as V Australia was boarding, so got to see their beautiful new plane. Great livery...



...and don't call me Shirley!!
User currently offlineZeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8998 posts, RR: 75
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12579 times:



Quoting OzTech (Reply 19):

Friend just got back from LAX and commented that his Business Class section had only about 2 spare each way, cattle class was about 75% and Premium Economy about 60%. This was same in both directions...

School holidays/Easter no wonder, forward booking is looking 3-6 months in advance and gives an indication of the level of discounting that will be needed to get decent load factors.



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User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12471 times:

What gate does VA depart from at T3 at LAX?


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User currently offlineAnstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 12289 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 10):
So why aren't all of the Virgin products intertwined? In other words, it seems funny that when you go on V Australia's website and try to book SEA-LAX-SYD, it puts you on an AS flight as opposed to a VX flight. I haven't heard if one could book SEA-SFO-LHR on VX and VA.

VX and VA are owned by different people. They are looking at codesharing, but their is a delay on VX's end in making this happen.

Quoting Zeke (Reply 13):
Second hand information I heard was that forward bookings were down around 40% LF level.

Godfrey publicly stated that for MArch/April it was around 65% with May at 45%... this was back int he first week of March, so I presume that the 45% is a little higher now.


User currently offlineTrojanclipper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11964 times:

It all comes down to a matter of product.

UA offers a first class with new pod type f-class beds, fully flat business class seats (which unfortunately are 8 across on the lower deck), and economy class.

V offers a business class that probably lies beneath UA's first and business, a premium economy which is probably between UA's business and y class and a y class that is probably better than UA's y class.

UA offers an expansive network and sometimes usable frequent flyer miles.

QF offers a great product too (it's been a few years since I flew them on that route). But anyway you look at it, if you are sitting in a y class seat for 14-hours, you aren't going to walk off with a smile on your face.

I have been flying UA's new business and first class product a lot and enjoy it, but if I had to fly that far in economy, I would probably pick someone else.


User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5187 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 11915 times:



Quoting Trojanclipper (Reply 24):
fully flat business class seats

All the carriers on this route will offer fully flat business seats. DL, VA, QF & UA. (Sure QF's is slopey on on of the flights, but is flat on the A380).

Quoting Trojanclipper (Reply 24):
I have been flying UA's new business and first class product a lot and enjoy it, but if I had to fly that far in economy, I would probably pick someone else.

Despite UA's new product in First/Business, I would still choose QF or VA over United's premium cabin's any day.

VA/QF offer better catering, service & IFE.


User currently offlineTrojanclipper From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12069 times:



Quoting ANstar (Reply 25):
All the carriers on this route will offer fully flat business seats. DL, VA, QF & UA. (Sure QF's is slopey on on of the flights, but is flat on the A380).

But only UA and QF will offer First Class...And the only time I was on VA, their IFE was in-op.
But I do agree with the catering. UA tried to serve meat pies mid-flight once and they really need to learn a thing or two about them before they try to servce them. LOL.

Prefer SQ and LH's J class cuisine to most others.


User currently offlineJbernie From Australia, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11753 times:

Given the current price war of sorts....

We priced DEN-LAX/SFO-SYD via QF & V.Aust (for May). The price difference was coming out at about $30 or so, I have QF FF membership, it wasn't worth giving up the points to save next to nothing price wise. When we did DEN-LAX-MEL-SYD with QF in Sept 07 we found the product to be great, a very enjoyable flight in both directions, great staff, friendly & helpful staff (we travelled with my now fatehr in law who is in his 80s and needs assitance).

If V.Aust was running the US$300 each way price and QF was at normal pricing then we would fly V.Aust without hesitation as that price difference is significant, but based on almost identical prices we didn't see a need to change.

One thing I did like for V.Aust, they offer a flight leaving SYD in the evening so you arrive in to LAX late afternoon and not around 6-7am, so if by chance your travel arrangements see you staying on the west close within an hour or two flying time of LAX you can get home late evening and go straight to bed which can be a good way to lose the jet lag fast.


User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11426 times:



Quoting Trojanclipper (Reply 26):
But I do agree with the catering. UA tried to serve meat pies mid-flight once and they really need to learn a thing or two about them before they try to servce them.

NZ do superb meat pies. I ask for them even when I am in J



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25 ANstar : True - but how many on UA actually pay for it? Do you mean Virgin America OR V Australia? We are talking about V Australia here and from all accounts
26 Jetfuel : 3 days and V Australia also commences their BNE-LAX service too (April 8)
27 Smi0006 : VA will also commence MEL LAX via Syd in may daily, then in Sept three flight a week non-stop! Its such a same that they don't arrive at the same term
28 ANstar : Has this been announced yet or bookable? Great news if it is!
29 Smi0006 : Hasn't been announced yet that I am aware of, and must confess not sure if it's bookable. Groundstaff are starting their training mid of this week or
30 ANstar : Who is doing the check in? Is it VA themselves in Melbs? As I know Pac blue is outsorced down there... good news if it does come in house..
31 Teamspeedy : I booked on V Australia (SYD-LAX) leaving mid November returning mid December in Premium Economy for $1997 (AUD). A Qantas Economy ticket was $2300 (A
32 Smi0006 : Nope V Australia in all Australian Ports is handled by Toll Dnata, I think they may also look after Pacific Blue in Syd. In Lax I believe they are ha
33 The777Man : LAX-BNE starts on 6Apr09 but BNE-LAX starts on 8Apr09 so I guess the aircraft must come from VCV to fly LAX-BNE on 6 Apr ? The777Man
34 BoeingFever777 : Thanks for the posts guys... Is it worth the extra money to book premium economy or what is the likelyhood they would upgrd me? Also are there any pic
35 AznCSA4QF744ER : That is correct, Hallmark Aviation Services (HAS) handles the majority of the International carriers at LAX. QF is the largest account, as HAS is own
36 LACA773 : Isn't that gate in the corner and a very tight fit? Is gate 38 operational when they have a 77W parked there? Now that VA is starting additional serv
37 AznCSA4QF744ER : They normally use gate 103 and 105, although gate 123A can accommodate the B77W but I haven't seen them parked at that gate yet. They are specific, b
38 NA : No thanks, I would take a well-maintained 744 over a 773 anytime. And 20 years old? All of UAs 744s are younger, the oldest is 19 years, 9 months, ma
39 MilesDependent : Wonder if the MEL-SYD is bookable?
40 AndrewUber : True, but I'm sure the V Australia crews are not fresh out of flight school!
41 CV990Coronado : I believe VA are a great airline but I would take the QF 380 or 744 maybe I'm old fashioned but thats a long on two engines across lot's and lot's of
42 Jbernie : Don't worry about the distance, you can always add an exotic south pacific desination to your itinery
43 ANstar : Air Canada, Qantas, Jetstar, Hawaiian, Air NZ all fly twin engines across the pacific. It is not just VA. QF/HA/JQ fly to HNL with 767/330 equipment.
44 767ER : Anyone know the names VA have called their planes?
45 9V-SVC : Not forgetting the mileage points(One world alliance) you get for flying on Qantas, redeeming the miles for free upgrades, flights, this is something
46 CXB77L : VOZ is "Didgeree Blue". Not sure what VPD is, though.
47 AusA380 : I think you will find that VA uses Velocity Rewards which is the main reward program for DJ
48 ANstar : You can earn/redeem on VA with Virgin Blue's frequent flyer program Velocity. I would also expect Virgin Atlantic, Emirates and Malaysian airlines to
49 Ramprat74 : I'm about to buy a LAX-SYD-LAX ticket. I can't decide on Qantas or Vaustralia. Vaustralia is new, so their planes will be in great shape. Their crew s
50 ANstar : They'll still be around in 6 months. Their parent has enough cash in the bank to enusre operations - especially in 6 months... Even in the worst case
51 ANstar : Further to this - I'd support V Australia myself. Why? Well I am a fan of comepition and low fares. Neither United or Qantas (and I dare say even Del
52 Smi0006 : Just apparently news going around is that VA have pushed back their MEL-SYD-LAX tag flight back by two weeks they will now start the first of June, bu
53 Jbernie : We appreciate the low fares now, but then the market isn't very good right now anyway so lower fares lures in more people (hopefully), though I will
54 Zeke : I like good value, but not low fares (i.e. below cost). I think the current fare levels being offered by VA are well below cost, and are being offere
55 Post contains links Atomsareenough : I just saw a fare yesterday on QF to either LAX and SFO for $530 plus taxes, *round trip*: http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/dyn/am/specials/us/visit-
56 Ramprat74 : Yep, I just bought tickets on Qantas. I paid $654 roundtrip LAX-SYD. The fare is only $350 + $124 tax + $180 fuel surcharge. They are losing money on
57 413X3 : they would rather sell extra seats for cheaper than have them go empty
58 ANstar : I think they can break even with $999. They have much lower costs than any of their competitors on this route. I guess it depends if they are selling
59 LondonCity : Be cautious stating this advice as it may not be the case in every country around the world. Holders of UK-issued credit cards are protected by the U
60 Gemuser : Pardon my ignorance but what's the difference between a "charge" card & a "credit" card, to me they are the same thing? Gemuser
61 Jbernie : Not sure what the UK has, but in the USA we have the standard credit card where you have a credit line of $X, then through your bank you have a card
62 DavidByrne : This is a "debit card", not even a "pseudo" credit card. There's no "credit" involved, as it's your own money that pays the bill. It's really just EF
63 Tayser : Visa, MasterCard, AMEX, JCB, Diners: all financial -networks- which facilitate access to funds. Credit Cards: any of the access providers as above lin
64 Post contains links Eghansen : Bully for you!!! You get the brownie points for being correct!!! The reason why you are correct is that credit card companies such as Visa and Master
65 FlyAustralian : Think this applies differently to every airline. Very dangerous to assume, that by simply paying by credit card your funds are guaranteed, if airline
66 Atomsareenough : My understanding of a charge card is that you have to pay it off in full at the end of the month, as opposed to a credit card on which you can keep a
67 Zeke : That thinking is flawed, startup sunk costs are huge, they should be charging 2-3 times what QF is charging for months to recoup all the costs that t
68 The777Man : VA now has fares for USD 350 (!!!!) LAX-SYD r/t. I may even try them later this month for that price! The777Man
69 FlyAustralian : presume that's similar to the AUD$777 BNE/LAX/BNE deal ? (complete travel by 30 April ?)
70 The777Man : Actually, I called them today and with taxes it comes out to USD 640.00. Travel needs to be completed by 14Jun09. Needs to be ticketed by 14Apr09. Sti
71 ANstar : DO IT! Come visit us in Aus!
72 Bwohlgemuth : Just flew out last week on VAustralia, quick idea of what happened with our trip. 4/4/09 - VA2 - LAX-SYD. Light load, empty seats throughout the plane
73 Par13del : If this theory was applied in reality, there would never be a new airline period, why would customers pay more just to fly on a new carrier? V Austra
74 WorldTraveler : Absolutely correct. Startup costs have to be recouped. And remember that it is QF that has led most of the discounting in the US-OZ market because th
75 Aviators99 : VX says they will codeshare with them in May.
76 Atomsareenough : ...And who on Earth would choose to fly them them if they charged "2-3 times" what the competition charges? New airlines ALWAYS undercut the competit
77 SlcDeltaRUmd11 : If i were paying i think i would pick V Australia also Honestly I think UA even with a weak product will not be chased out of the market. They have op
78 Eoinnz : In case someone does light up a smoke - you need to have somewhere safe to dispose of it. The A380 has ashtrays as well
79 ANstar : The start up costs have already been absorbed by the group and accounted for. So if it were my airline I'd be looking at getting positive cashflow in
80 Bwohlgemuth : Then they should put it next to the taser and duct tape. Makes sense for what they would do to the person after they were caught smoking.
81 Zeke : Good question, as with the many false starts so far, booking a ticket with a new player has numerous risks for consumers. People think just becuase t
82 ANstar : This is not entirely their fault. They were due to start SYD-LAX in December and have 3 months to BNE-LAX and then a further 6 months until their 3rd
83 FlyAustralian : Delta did have a few seats out there 3 or 4 weeks ago for around the AUD$1000 SYD/LAX/SYD inc.
84 DavidByrne : Just as an observation, there's no profit as such in having payload capacity, there's no profit in having revenue potential. The only time you actual
85 ANstar : Delta did have some cheap fares a few weeks ago. In saying that they haven't really made any real effort to advertise this service yet. Perhaps they
86 Jbernie : Given the current market is it possible Delta is holding out on commiting to the route? Has there been any word (rumour?) on how many tickets they ha
87 Smi0006 : Ok just received confirmation the VA MEL-SYD-LAX tag will begin the 3rd of June, so very exciting looking forward to that! I presume it will be bookab
88 Post contains links FlyAustralian : VA are virtually giving away seats again to LAX to all Breakaway travel club members (see below) AUD$299 return +taxes/charges for departures til end
89 LAXintl : Make that 38. At 39, their wing would be inside the terminal.
90 Signol : What chance that Virgin Atlantic will codeshare, making an RTW flight LHR-LAX-SYD-HKG-LHR possible? signol
91 Lufthansa : Very high...since they've already released a joint round the world fare.
92 Smi0006 : When will the VX codeshare be announced I remember Brett saying it was in the works and that they were waiting for VX to improve their systems to hand
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