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New Embraer Jets, Superior In Comfort To 737/A320?  
User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4531 posts, RR: 3
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15051 times:

A few weeks ago I finally had the opportunity to fly on one of the new Embraer Jets, an E190 or 195 (can't remember) on a USAirways CLT-DCA segment. I have to say, the comfort and space in this plane was superior to the similar experience I had on other segments on the trip on the USAir 734 and A319.

Any thoughts on the matter? I find it surprising that a shorter range regional jet allows for more personal space than something like an A319 which USAir flies transcon...

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User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15031 times:

They seem to only have the E190.

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 14979 times:

AFAIK US has only E190s.

Still I do not see E190s like a strong contender of 737s and A320s. At least their seat config is still 2-2. I think they should increase seat capacity to become a strong competitor of them.

Fatmir



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 14916 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 2):
US has only E190s.

US does only have 190s on the mainline. I think for a while that someone was flying 170s under contract for them.



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User currently offlinePiedmontINT From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 14825 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 3):
I think for a while that someone was flying 170s under contract for them.

Republic still flies the E170 for US as well as the E175.

Some of the 170s that Republic flies were actually owned by US when they first got them around 2004 or so and flew for a new wholly owned subsidiary called MidAtlantic Airways. MidAtlantic was one of the casualties of the merger, howerver. They closed up shop and sold the 170s to Republic in 2006 who have been operating them for US ever since.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27252 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 14732 times:



Quoting Cba (Thread starter):
I have to say, the comfort and space in this plane was superior to the similar experience I had on other segments on the trip on the USAir 734 and A319.

The Ejets are really comfortable. If there was a B737 at 09am and a Ejet at 10am I would take the 10am. I wish alot more airlines operated the Ejets.


User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2177 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 14458 times:

Seats are wider on the ejets...1/2 over the airbus and 1.5 inches wider than the 737/757. Pitch is about the same at 31. From the 170's I have been on they are noticeably quieter than either the Boeing or the airbus. Add in the seats are newer and slimline with better padding and that may explain why you preferred that bird.

User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14200 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
I wish alot more airlines operated the Ejets.

Are AY, EN, YM, AF, KL and F7 (Flybaboo) the only operators in Europe of ERJ190/195 or there's another airline who operates them?

Fatmir



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14187 times:



Quoting PiedmontINT (Reply 4):
MidAtlantic Airways

That was the name I was thinking of. I looked them up and found nothing but I could have sworn that I saw a 170 or 175 at STL the other day.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27252 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 14156 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 7):
Are AY, EN, YM, AF, KL and F7

BE and LO have Ejets, I was on the LO ones alot when they flew to Dublin . I miss them . It used to be great to fly to ATH all the way on a Ejet,


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14113 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 7):
F7 (Flybaboo) the only operators in Europe of ERJ190/195

I'm excited that I'll get to fly on one next month. Even their oldest one will be under a year old.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6159 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14100 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
The Ejets are really comfortable

I like them. They are the only RJs (other than the BAe-146/Avro RJ, but we don't have any in the US anymore) that I enjoy flying on.

I have flown on Compass (NW) and Cirrus (LH) E-jets and enjoyed both of them.



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User currently offlineFatmirJusufi From Albania, joined Jan 2009, 2441 posts, RR: 7
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14088 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 10):
Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 7):
F7 (Flybaboo) the only operators in Europe of ERJ190/195

I'm excited that I'll get to fly on one next month. Even their oldest one will be under a year old.

What route you'll get?



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User currently offlineQ120 From Canada, joined Aug 2008, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14073 times:

Passenger perspective:

Ive flown on all the E-jets and I must say they are great aircraft.
Ive flown on A319-320-321 and Boeing 737-500/700
All airlines are different, but from my experiences I can conclude that:

Airbus series are the most quietest planes around, hands down.
I found the same comfort on all of the aircraft listed above.
The only thing I dislike about the Airbus and Boeing is 3-3 seating.

I would recommend them all regardless.
 Silly



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User currently offlineKaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12565 posts, RR: 35
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 14008 times:

I used to fly on the 146 with Flybe; the 146, as you know, was intended as a five abreast aircraft. Six abreast was a nightmare!

Now, of course, the 146s are a distant and rapidly forgotten memory and the Embraer 195 has taken over ... and what a joy it is to fly in! At the other end of the spectrum from the 146, from a comfort perspective. I have to say I prefer the 2-2 layout. I've always liked the 737 and the A320, but the E-series is the most comfortable narrowbody as far as I'm concerned.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13995 times:



Quoting FatmirJusufi (Reply 12):
What route you'll get?

NAP-GVA



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User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13974 times:

AY fly 20 E170/190s and use them for flights lasting up to 3h, usually shorter though. All not happy with the Recaro seats they have, I find them ok. AY don't serve warm meals in Y on their E-jets but personally I prefer their cold snacks anyway... The cabins feel a lot more spacious than I first expected and I just love the 'private jet' -look...

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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5132 posts, RR: 43
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13968 times:

Air Canada has noted a very wide preference of the E190/175 over the A320 series or competitors B737s. The seats are the widest narrow body seats in the fleet, and seat pitch is dictated by the airline.

The rest is all up to the airline ... IFE, catering, lavs .. etc.

With the longer legs on the E190, YYZ-SEA, YYZ-PHX, YYZ-LAS, etc, Air Canada has decided to reverse an earlier decision, and hot ovens are about to be installed. This will allow hot meals in J, and hot sandwiches/pizzas/breakfast buns, etc for the BOB.



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User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13952 times:

In my opinion, the 737 and A320 are more comfortable than the Embraer E-jets. Yes, the 737 and A320 have 3+3 seating, but at average load factor for many airlines, not all of those middle seats are even filled. In fact, with Southwest Airlines average LF, only 8 people on the plane need to sit in a middle seat. Chance are you will actually get more room with the 737 and A320.

User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13933 times:



Quoting LongHauler (Reply 17):
Air Canada has decided to reverse an earlier decision, and hot ovens are about to be installed.

Will this be fleet wide or will AC create a subfleet for longer routes?



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User currently offlineLongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 5132 posts, RR: 43
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13887 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 19):
Will this be fleet wide or will AC create a subfleet for longer routes?

It will be all aircraft, for fleet commonality.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6159 posts, RR: 29
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13869 times:
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Quoting Falstaff (Reply 11):
I have flown on Compass (NW)

I forgot to mention that I found the F seats on the E-175 to be the best US domestic F seats I sat in a long time.



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5478 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13854 times:

I flew YEG-YUL-YYC recently on AC. It was my first trip on an e-195. It was surprisingly comfortable.


What the...?
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27252 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13839 times:

I love the interiors and the feeling when your sitting in an E jet,






User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25871 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 13804 times:



Quoting DfwRevolution (Reply 18):
Yes, the 737 and A320 have 3+3 seating, but at average load factor for many airlines, not all of those middle seats are even filled. In fact, with Southwest Airlines average LF, only 8 people on the plane need to sit in a middle seat. Chance are you will actually get more room with the 737 and A320.

But many flights do operate at high load factors and being able to avoid even the slightest risk of a middle seat is a big selling point.


25 StarAlliance38 : I think the E190 is the best out of the 737 and 320 in terms of comfort. The 190 is one of my favorite planes, especially because I fly US a lot and,
26 NASBWI : That depends on the airline's demands. B6's E90s have 34" throughout the cabin and 35" in the exit row. I love the plane, both working it and as a pa
27 Andaman : Interesting, Seatguru tells both B6 and AY have 100 seats on E190 but AY's seat pitch is 31", did AY waste all the space, their seats are the thinner
28 NASBWI : It could also be that part of the cabin space on AY is used for other things. Perhaps a closet? B6 doesn't have that. I don't think B6 has Recaro sea
29 Fghtngsiouxatc : The Ejets really are comfortable seat-wise. The 2-2 seating beats 3-3 or 2-3 anyday and the leather seats found on most carriers (minus Finnair and AC
30 Andaman : Yes they have business class on E-jets but the seating is the same. And you must be right about AY's Recaros, the leg room feels better than the "31
31 Post contains images OA260 : Here are some BE pics :: Anyone know what the longest route currently served by an Ejet is ??
32 WROORD : I have been on E170/175 flying with United Express (Shuttle America). The seats are nice comparing to other RJ and you do not feel boxed in as much. H
33 Andaman : That interests me too. AY's longest E-jet flights take around 3h, like HEL-MAN (E190) and HEL-GVA(E170). OA260, great pics![Edited 2009-04-06 16:25:3
34 Viscount724 : AC uses the E190 YYZ-SEA, 1791 nm, block time westbound against headwnds 5 hr. 7 min. Eastbound 4 hr. 28 min. AC uses the E190 on several domestic ro
35 SKYYBLUE : At B6, that would be Boston-Austin at 1,695 miles, and clocking in a little more than 4 hours.
36 ORDagent : In general I prefer the E jets with one big exception! Those large windows are great IF it lines up with your seat row. With Airbus and Boeing it is h
37 Captaink : I have gotten stuck ALOT of times in middle seats. So when talking about comfort I like to just think about my seat assigned and the EMBs beat all th
38 SirSheldon : I was elated when Air Canada decided to add the E-jets to its fleet. The 2-2 seating makes it feel more spacious, even if it may not be that much bigg
39 OA260 : Cool. I want to go back to AUS so might be a good route to think of doing. DUB-BOS-AUS EI/B6 now the link is in place. Always wanted to fly B6 and on
40 Plairbus : I flew with Aeromexico Conect from Mexico City to Veracruz with the E-190 or 195 do not remeber and I liked this plane very much. Only one thing, all
41 Arrow : I just had my first ride (two weeks ago) on an AC E-190 -- YVR-LAX, and I thought it was a superb aircraft. I'd take it over either the 737 or the A32
42 Eightball : I love the E-jets. I have flown in the E170 on SV, and the E175 on Compass (NW), all in economy class, and they have all been comfortable. It would be
43 Warren747sp : But how do these E jets handle turbulence. From all of our experience we know what to expect with a 737 or A320. How high the the confidence factor kn
44 Manu : As a frequent flyer on AC, I have to agree! My preference for aircraft on AC is 767, E190/175, A330, 777, A320/319, Dash-8, walking to the destinatio
45 NASBWI : Where in the plane were you sitting? If it was toward the back, most might notice a high-pitched hum throughout the flight starting right before the
46 Multimark : Yes, I agree leather is overrated! I like AC's cloth seats. The E-jet is comfortable, but I dislike the fact that Y has just one lav for 84 pax
47 ERJ170 : Hahaha.. I beg to differ.. I abhor flying on airbus because they always give me a headache with that whinning noise they make.. and I'm usually sitti
48 Skydrol : Having flown these a few times on AC from YYC, I guess I will be the first here to say I don't like E190 very much. Totally inadequate overhead bin sp
49 HBJZA : Sorry to disapoint you but the NAP route is operated by the Dash8-Q400 and not the E-190 !!!
50 OA260 : Cant say Ive noticed it. 20 flights on A320/A319 in Business Class in the last 6 months and I love the A320/A319.
51 FlyingAY : Both AY and B6 have 25 rows of 4 seats. B6 actually advertise on their web site that their E190 has (at least) 32" seat pitch - not 34", except for t
52 OA260 : Do you know how much they charge for row 12??
53 Post contains images WINGS : Interesting that no one has mentioned the Fokker 70/100. I consider this family of aircraft to be very comfortable. Regards, Wings
54 Archer : I believe US Ex. calls them 195's. Very nice plane to fly in. 2x2 seating beats 737's any day. That's why I like 767's and 330's on long flights. Two
55 Manu : Good point Skydrol (Awesome name too!). I do like the seats which can have the top move. I'm at about the maximum for the headrest, at 6ft. It's top
56 Boeingforever : Arkia flies a 195er from telaviv-paris
57 Flyboy80 : How much wider is the cabin cross section of the 190 compared to the CRJ? I've heard from 2" to 12"...etc and looked at the manufactures websites and
58 WROORD : So the general consensus is that E190/195 is far better than E170/175?
59 NASBWI : Not necessarily. All four variants are essentially the same aircraft from a customer's perspective. I can't imagine a large number of passengers comp
60 WhatUsaid : I've done the 170 on UAX and 190 on AC and prefer both to any 737 and to most 318/319/320s.. The AC aircraft was far superior to the UAX, but that's t
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