Tjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2296 posts, RR: 3 Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 19686 times:
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19508 times:
Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19423 times:
Reg for the 753?
Reg for the Saab?
And I've also hear there is a XJ CR9 there as well. But there's only so much hanger space. Anyone have concrete info on what is where?
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19377 times:
Not sure of the reg of the saab... the update was that we're sending a saab this week and an a/c will go in for paint every 8 days. 45% of the fleet will be painted by the end of the year. If I hear of a reg, I'l let everyone know. The pic in the SKY magazine looks sharp... the saab will look quite nice!
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19361 times:
Quoting Rampguy (Reply 4): How do you know that the 757-300 is going there to get painted and would it go to GLH to be painted. The 747-400's and A330's went to VCV.
History has shown that Favre always right when it comes to statements about NWA.
Mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9160 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19350 times:
Quoting Rampguy (Reply 4): How do you know that the 757-300 is going there to get painted and would it go to GLH to be painted. The 747-400's and A330's went to VCV.
And it seems that the other narrow bodies, i.e. Airbus and DC-9's went to GLH. Lets hope they do a better job this time. From the reports I've heard and seen, they haven't exactly been quality work at GLH.
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ElBandGeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 735 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 19188 times:
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7335 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 19129 times:
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 19056 times:
I thought I'd read somewhere that indeed, they want to put winglets on the 300s.
PanAm330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2601 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 19004 times:
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 10): I thought I'd read somewhere that indeed, they want to put winglets on the 300s.
Could that be CO? I believe they're slapping them on their -300s.
KaiGywer From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 12022 posts, RR: 43 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18989 times:
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 2): The first saab goes this week to GLH as well.
Woot woot!
Quoting Azjubilee (Reply 5): The pic in the SKY magazine looks sharp... the saab will look quite nice!
Bobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 5974 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18775 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 11): Could that be CO? I believe they're slapping them on their -300s.
I don't believe at the present time there are any winglets designed for the 757-300.
Tjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2296 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18805 times:
Quoting Bobnwa (Reply 13): don't believe at the present time there are any winglets designed for the 757-300.
Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3139 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 18775 times:
NWA757300 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 298 posts, RR: 2 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 18354 times:
Quoting PanAm330 (Reply 11): Could that be CO? I believe they're slapping them on their -300s.
Timf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 954 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 18002 times:
They seem to be kicking the painting into high gear. There's another 757-200 heading to GLH tonight. That'll make it 5 planes there (753, 752, D95, CR9, SF3) and 3 in VCV (744, 2x 320). Any idea what the maximum capacity is of each of the paint shops?
Dbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 792 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17266 times:
This might be a dumb question, but are NW's 757-300s ETOPS certified? Could Delta start putting these on trans-Atlantic routes?
DeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8576 posts, RR: 8 Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17224 times:
Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 18): but are NW's 757-300s ETOPS certified
yes
Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 18): Could Delta start putting these on trans-Atlantic routes?
Could they? sure Will they? not likely
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DeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8770 posts, RR: 13 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17177 times:
Quoting Dbo861 (Reply 18): Could Delta start putting these on trans-Atlantic routes?
I doubt it. The only scheduled trans-Atlantic flight I can think of a NW 757-300 having done was a one-time sub for a 757-200 that had gone mechanical in Boston and did a BOS-AMS flight. It's also done some charters via SNN.
Right now the 757-200s have about 175 seats for international configuration (160 in NW Configuration), while the 767-300ERs have around 225 seats. While it's a pretty large gap, it's not the end of the world, especially given that the 757-300 would have difficulties on a year-round flight to Western Europe out of JFK if the plane was full.
2707200X From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 6928 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 17140 times:
I can't wait to see the 757-300 in the new livery.
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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29 Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 16448 times:
The 753 is currently a high-density, 2-class aircraft, seating 224 passengers. Nearly the same as the 763.
The 753's serve the same purpose as DL's domestic 763's. There is zero need to send the 753's to Europe, considering the glut of 752's DL has, and the fact that they are scaling back on capacity across the Atlantic, particularly coming up this fall.
Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 16161 times:
Quoting Timf (Reply 17): That'll make it 5 planes there (753, 752, D95, CR9, SF3) and 3 in VCV (744, 2x 320)
Dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 15811 times:
Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 15): Sent you an email already, but it's ship# 5810 (N590NW).
If I am not mistaken, this was the first NW aircraft in this scheme. It was delivered in early 2003.
25 SNCntry32: Oh yeah, he was dead on about F in the CRJ and the E190 order.
26 Azjubilee: The F program on the CRJ200s was in fact in progress, however subsequently canceled. I don't think Favre ever promised an E190 order, but might have m
27 Burnsie28: Seeing how he works at NW and until the two 320's that are apparently in VCV went to GLH. Yeah Yes they do a lot of Hawaii flying. CO plans to put th
28 Drerx7: This comes up repeatedly - but tentatively CO does NOT plan on placing them TATL. CO is not looking to send non Buisiness First equipped birds TATL.
29 Bobnwa: I think a small thing like the Delta merger may have changed those plans by NWA.
30 Burnsie28: I wish I could find where I read it, but it stated that after the test program CO wants to operate 753's to Ireland.
31 Alitalia744: Read it too, not sure where tho. Maybe the latest AirlinerWorld magazine?
32 Azjubilee: It's on page 2 of the latest AIRWAYS magazine. There is a picture of it and it mentions t-atl service. HOWEVER, I take much of that type of info from
33 MCOflyer: In was in the latest issue of airways: It says CO is slated to use the 753's on TATL runs. I see CO putting them on LHR and DUB/SNN runs to an extent.
34 MCOflyer: Beat me to it. Spot on. But as Burnise said, its more than likely CO would like to use them to Ireland. I would most definitely ride a 753 to Ireland
35 Jetjack74: We used the 753 from BOS-AMS a few months back as an equipment sub. So, the 753 has the legs without winglets with a fairly heavy load to Europe, and
36 DeltAirlines: If the 757-300s go to Europe, they'll get BusinessFirst. I'll take the words about BusinessFirst on all flights to Europe straight out of Jeff Smisek
38 Crjfixer: Make that 6, Pinnacle has its first 200 down there as well with a 2nd headed down in a few days
39 Azjubilee: CRJfixer - are they sending those bowling shoe ones with the paint peeling off? Those must have been the ones delivered before and after the Bombardie
40 Crjfixer: Its mostly the 7600-7699 s/n's that seem to have the bad paint and the one down there is 8588D (7588). I believe they are starting with the aircraft t
41 Azjubilee: Sounds like the first few 900s we got. 901 and a few others had to go back to the factory for a rework of some duct work. XJ is saying we'll have 45%
42 PSU.DTW.SCE: Hah, saw this one in DTW the other day....I assume this is the one where on the right side in front of the wing it has a big greenish-primer color wh
43 FlyASAGuy2005: Heck, I don't even think either is quite sure. I'm sure there is some sort of paint schedule but if certain ops allows it, they could send more/less
44 Timf: Leading Edge Aviation Services is the paint contractor in both GLH and VCV. http://www.leadingedgecorp.com/
45 KaiGywer: I can't wait for 457XJ to come out Been in GLH since the 7th
46 Burnsie28: I hope that what's left at the NW with aircraft names, including those at the regionals keep their name. Like Charles Lindbergh (N810NW) and Soaring E
47 Ocracoke: This one? If flew me last week DTW-PLN on my latest trip to northern MI.: Well, look at that. It is ship 8588. I must have been on one of the last re
48 Crjfixer: Yup thats the one thats down there, I have never noticed that before. Looks like some type of repair was done possibly in CKB (heavy check) and temp p
49 Azjubilee: That would be the one! =) As for the named planes... Pinnacle is still operating (I believe) the "Spirit of Memphis Belle" and Mesaba is operating the
50 PSU.DTW.SCE: This wasn't the CRJ that a DL tug plowed into a few months ago in DTW was it?
51 KaiGywer: Nope, that was this one (From the thread on the incident)
52 KaiGywer: Ship 457 should emerge on Wednesday. Scheduled to fly as NW3130 GLH-MEM at 7am.
53 Burnsie28: And look who was the ones resposible
54 Amwest2United: Comair if my memory serves me correctly!
55 KaiGywer: They took the word merger to a whole new level
57 Amwest2United: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/MES3130 Looks like it made a stop in MLU first, any ideas why?
58 Crjfixer: Thats correct! And this plane was taxiing on a taxiway when it got hit!
59 KaiGywer: No... Somehow 3130 was operated by 423...no clue why...
60 Pilotboi: So is 457 still in GLH? Or did it fly out as one of the two rev flights?
61 Burnsie28: Thought DL had their own people in DTW.
62 KingAir200: No, it's OH. DL ramp is only in their largest 15 cities.
63 KaiGywer: I'll do some digging tomorrow at work
64 Bkircher: Will this plane also be getting winglets???
65 Timf: There are currently no NW 757-300s slated to get winglets. BTW, 5810 is on its way back to MSP right now. Be on the lookout for it! http://flightaware
66 Bkircher: OOO OK thanks for the reply. I saw the fake mock image of what the DL colors would look like on it and wondered if they would have installed winglets
67 Pilotboi: So I'm not naming any names, but this is what I'm hearing from two independent sources: The paint on the Saabs are the original factory paint and it'
68 PSU.DTW.SCE: That is not the reason why they only painted 1. The stopped painting due to NW withholding paymenst to XJ when they filed Ch. 11 and subsequently XJ
69 Pilotboi: Picture of the first DL 757-300: http://www.widgetheads.net/#137
70 KaiGywer: I've heard this as well, don't know how accurate the source is Well, your somewhat right. The A series had some corrosion issues, and as such the onl
71 Pilotboi: Among other people, I've heard it directly from a mechanic at XJ. Since this is coming from so many independent sources, I'd call this one pretty acc
73 KaiGywer: I guess this could explain why 423 was down there but ferried out and is now back in service. Guess they didn't want two Saabs out of commission unti
75 SNCntry32: I wonder how they will utilize the 753's. Wonder if they will be routed more and more through ATL instead of MSP...
76 EMB170: When will the first NW A332 go in for DL paint?
77 STT757: There are no plans to put the 757-300s on Trans-Atlantic routes, these aviation magazines are wrong all the time. Anyone remember the Airways article
78 Crjfixer: At least one has been painted for quite some time if im not mistaken
80 Timf: There are 12 A330-300s repainted, however no A330-200s have been repainted yet. They've stopped painting the 333s for now to work on more 747-400s an
81 Katwspotter: 9E A/C 8588 just came out of the paint shop a few days ago.
82 EMBQA: I sure hope they know what they are doing. You can screw up a Saab very easy it you don't know how to correctly prep and strip a Saab 340. Disturb th
83 KingAir200: At least 9E has ACARS. Makes it easier for us stations that have DL painted CRJ-200s from 9E, OH, and EV.
84 DeltaL1011man: So all that takes is what? 2-3 weeks (if that long) in a hangar and boom CO 753s on TATL flights.
85 STT757: It's a little more involved than that, 1.) Only the former ATA 757-300s are ETOPs rated 2.) CO is installing LiveTv in the 757-300s, the LiveTv does
86 RB211: We currently have a NW 757 here at KBFM for conversion. I'll keep you all posted.
87 NW747-400: I don't understand what you mean by this? EV has ACARS as well.
88 DeltaL1011man: Ok even better the four from ATA go into a hangar get AVOD and BF right off the bat. Seeing as EWR-SNN/DUB/LON/ etc would be about all they could do
89 KingAir200: I didn't mean they didn't have ACARS. I meant that they have similarly painted airplanes as OH and now 9E, making it a little difficult to determine
90 FlyASAGuy2005: That must be something recent. At least post 2006 or right around there. When I was with them they didn't.
91 Pilotboi: If you haven't read the recent posts....the Saab in GLH is gunna be there for who knows how long. They are having sum difficulties removing the origi
92 Burnsie28: There were two A320's in BFM However, they are not showing in PARS, it kept saying Invalid Flight number.
96 NW747-400: Oh I understand haha. I just wasn't quite sure what you meant. We had a few with ACARS circa 2006, but it was virtually useless. All of the 700's had
97 EMBQA: I'm not talking about recent posts.. I'm talking about actually repainting a Saab 340. You really need to know what you are doing...its not a typical
98 N83SF: I am unable to access the picture on pilotboi's website, it says account suspended. Any insight into this?
103 Pilotboi: Actually there was one of the 753 up by post 69. However, it's on my site, which is currently down at the moment.
104 SESGDL: Pilotboi, Could you perhaps let us know some info about which planes are being painted and which ones have recently come out? I loved your site and c
105 Timf: He has been posting updates in the thread about his site being down. Here's another link to it. http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation
108 Katwspotter: 7457 is out of the paint shop today doing a revenue flight tonight out of MEM
109 Beertrucker: Anyword on the Saab? How long will it take them to paint that.
110 Katwspotter: read my post above yours the first saab just rolled out yesterday
111 JBo: None of us would have known 7457 to be the Saab. Is that a typo or a new ship number?
112 Katwspotter: Ship number 7457 (N457XJ) yea prolly should of put that as a Saab my bad just reading some of the other posts just assumed people would understand...
113 Beertrucker: Ok so we know now the first saab rollled out of the shop. Ok people. I know people are waiting. So come on people lets find those pics.
114 KaiGywer: I got a picture message on my cell phone. If no pics are up by tonight I'll post it. 457 is doing TLH flying, so I doubt we'll get to see it up here
115 MSPNWA: The 753 doesn't look quite as bad in DL colors as some of the other types. Tolerable I guess. I flew on 5810 4 years ago for my first 753 flight. I re
116 Hammer: If you want a pic, go to detroitspotters.com ----under the forum section, you will see the link...
117 Burnsie28: Just to help http://www.detroitspotters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=1789
118 Beertrucker: I don't think it looks that bad. I was not sure what to expect. But I like it on the Saab.
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