Jano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 827 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5639 times:
Quoting ATLFlyer323 (Reply 4): What has DL been doing? (genuinely curious, not trying to sound rude).
A few years back they started ATL-PRG. Then this year (or maybe last) they started JFK-PRG. OK does only PRG-JFK and PRG-Toronto (they dropped EWR and Montreal). So it migh be that after A313 are gone from OK then DL will pick up all TATL flying between USA and PRG and PRG-Toronto will be dropped.
Tommyy From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5561 times:
I recently flew JFK-PRG with the ancient 310 in business class and it was a codeshare with Delta, DL does not fly their own metal to PRG, besides for the cute FA's and the friendly service their business class is worse then some economy class seats, they are about 20 years behind on their seats and entertainment systems
Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12780 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 5539 times:
Quoting Tommyy (Reply 6): I recently flew JFK-PRG with the ancient 310 in business class and it was a codeshare with Delta, DL does not fly their own metal to PRG, besides for the cute FA's and the friendly service their business class is worse then some economy class seats, they are about 20 years behind on their seats and entertainment systems
Prague could be a good hub; OK has good connections throughout Eastern Europe; just a better quality product is needed and I don't see them doing that until the A310s are replaced. Personally, I live A310s - they're about the most photogenic aircraft around (like the 747SP, in a way - short and fat!), BUT their time has passed. I agree that the A332 is the most likely type for OK and in the current environment, it can't be THAT hard to find two or three, which could be used as a stopgap and OK could participate in AF/KL's 100 aircraft widebody order.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26668 posts, RR: 50
Reply 10, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5363 times:
Radomir Lasak the CEO of CSA had a lenghy interview in a recent edition of Airline Business.
Basically in summary - OK is in no financial position to do much with its fleet at the moment.
Mr Lasak states OK has 8 previously ordered A320 family aircraft still planned for delivery in 2011/2012, but otherwise is not pondering much more.
If company had the finances he would like to swap out the 20 737s for an all Airbus fleet, at the soonest opportunity but the companies health cannot support it.
For long-haul, that decision will be left for the carriers future owners, but for now long haul scheduled service ops is basically a loss making venture and the wide bodies will be used more and more for charters instead.
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I personally dont think they will or should be replaced, just retired. Those long haul routes are money losers. Not ever country needs to have a long haul international airline. They should let their SkyTeam partners carry intl traffic and they codeshare. They should have A320s/329s and ATRs
PRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 5062 times:
The company s health is not in the status of putting longhaul order any time soon. Agree DL will take over TATL operations and only after privatisation strategic decision will be taken. If some new order will come, than it will be replacement of their AT7 by new ATR72 600 version. Their will concentrate themselves on current GO-EAST policy and expand in ex-soviet countries. Recently they added bunch of new destinations in CIS like OVB,TAS,ALA and ROV.
Expect them to restart Baku (GYD) and add some Ukrainian cities like DNK or HRK and something in Russia (KZN, PEE or GOJ). Their new 319 about to receive will be good for this purpose. We may see them soon expanding in middle east as well adding AMM e.g.
Some talks were held about PZN and GDN in Poland. TAT in Slovakia for winter only is also in question. Additional city in Romania was also discussed Cluj or Timisoara. Time will tell us.
Thats true and most efficient solution for TATL flights. "Eastern" network will work for connection from CDG, LYS or AMS flights or OK own connecting flights.
What I feel as a lost opportunity from the past are eastbound flights (there is substantial Chinese and Vietnamese minority + investors from Japan and S.Korea) to Asia. Some A332 would also enable to load reasonable cargo to TATL flights and improve their efficiency.
Today OK is almost empty shell from fixed assets PoV, with very limited possibility to decide about their fortune. In this case sale of the company is the only solution.
Babybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3722 times:
Quoting EXAAUADL (Reply 13): They should let their SkyTeam partners carry intl traffic and they codeshare.
I think all airlines should try to generate and transport as much of their own passengers as possible. Partner airlines can stitch you up.
The A330 would be a great replacement for the eternally beautiful A310s
I don't understand how CSA could be having financial problems. They must have the cheapest crew and cheapest airport costs in the whole of Europe (if not the world). CSA fares are normally higher than other operators out of PRG.
The Czech economy should still be in a state of expansion after all those communist years and it is geographically well placed to carry fellow ex-communists to the world.
1) Traffic demand failed to support growth started in 2004 with fleet growing from 35-50 without negatively eroding loads and yields.
2) Placing order for dozen A320, and their huge capital cost
3) LCCs in Central Europe and having to match pricing to retain traffic.
4) Trade union. OK is not a low cost producer having much legacy overhead.
5) High fuel cost
Apparently things were so touch and go, he started studying bankruptcy law in 2006.
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