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A380 Production And Delivery Thread #4  
User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 54386 times:
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Well time for a new topic. So far we have these production notes as of 8th April 2009.

Thread #1:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3790239/

Thread #2:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/3915920/

Thread #3
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4194129/

(In Toulouse)

MSN001 (Airbus) (Flight Testing)
MSN002 (Prince Al) (Rewiring)
MSN004 (EK) (Rewiring)
MSN007 (EK) (Rewiring)
MSN009 (EK) (Rewiring)
MSN023 (EK) (Flight Line)
MSN025 (EK) (FAL)
MSN028 (EK) (Body Join)
MSN038 (LH) (FAL)
MSN040 (AF) (Flight Line)
MSN047 (QF) (FAL)
MSN050 (QF) (FAL)
MSN051 (SQ) (Body Join)

(In Hamburg)

MSN017 (EK)
MSN019 (SQ)
MSN021 (SQ)
MSN026 (QF)
MSN027 (QF)
MSN029 (QF)
MSN033 (AF)
MSN034 (SQ)
MSN045 (QF)

(In Service)
MSN003 (SQ)
MSN005 (SQ)
MSN006 (SQ)
MSN008 (SQ)
MSN010 (SQ)
MSN011 (EK)
MSN012 (SQ)
MSN013 (EK)
MSN014 (QF)
MSN015 (QF)
MSN016 (EK)
MSN020 (EK)
MSN022 (QF)

Source

http://a380production.com and http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list

[Edited 2009-04-07 18:19:53]

[Edited 2009-04-07 18:22:05]

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User currently offlineAirvan00 From Australia, joined Oct 2008, 758 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 54325 times:

Add MSN043 (AF) (FAL) to the TLS List

User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 53943 times:

So... Nothing before Easter?

User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2789 posts, RR: 25
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 53717 times:



Quoting Aircellist (Reply 2):
So... Nothing before Easter?

They didn't find a proper Easter egg to hide it... Delivery will be somewhere in the week after Easter. I think Haan posted the exact delivery date in part 4.

What I find interesting is that in each of the last three months two A380s left the FAL in TLS:

Big version: Width: 823 Height: 500 File size: 45kb


That's definitly an improvement. If the outfitting division in XFW will be able to match up with that pace is another story.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6961 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 53528 times:

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...confirms-2009-orders-collapse.html

"Airbus [...] has yet to deliver an A380 in 2009, with the first of the 15 planned 2009 shipments expected this month."

15??

We've been speculating that 18 wouldn't happen in 2009 but has it now been confirmed?


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31259 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 53513 times:
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Maybe "shipments" refers to structure moves to TLS? Seems on odd way to refer to a delivery of a completed plane, especially just for the A380 since all the other models used "delivery".

User currently offlineWingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2243 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 53472 times:



Quoting Stitch (Reply 5):
Maybe "shipments" refers to structure moves to TLS? Seems on odd way to refer to a delivery of a completed plane, especially just for the A380 since all the other models used "delivery".

The 5th A380 road convoy of the year is later this month, so they must have meant deliveries. (Although, curiously, the convoy rate is also consistent with 15 per annum)


User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 53393 times:
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The next convoy will be April 20-23rd.

http://a380production.blogspot.com/


User currently offlineKennyK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 482 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 53229 times:

I see from the early production run MSNs 018, 024 and 032 delayed for Malaysia Airlines, 031 for China Southern and 030 for Emirates are not included in AeroplaneFreaks lists. I assume this is because they are delayed, will these MSNs ever be delivered or will these customers get new MSNs when their aircraft are delivered at a later date.

The one that does throw me is 030 for Emirates (A6-EDJ). Seems a bit weird producing MSNs in such a haphazard way especially as Airbus are now assembling MSNs in the 50s.


User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 53172 times:
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Quoting KennyK (Reply 8):
I see from the early production run MSNs 018, 024 and 032 delayed for Malaysia Airlines, 031 for China Southern and 030 for Emirates are not included in AeroplaneFreaks lists. I assume this is because they are delayed, will these MSNs ever be delivered or will these customers get new MSNs when their aircraft are delivered at a later date.

The one that does throw me is 030 for Emirates (A6-EDJ). Seems a bit weird producing MSNs in such a haphazard way especially as Airbus are now assembling MSNs in the 50s.

MSN018 became MSN045 for SQ after they defered there orders. MSN031 has been seen in XFW with some parts built. A380 Production is assuming this will not be coming on a convoy for quite some time. MSN030 will most likely be one of the next two convoys.

[Edited 2009-04-10 03:40:44]

User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 53010 times:
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The Nacelles for MSN038 for Lufthansa can be seen below

http://www.a380production.com

[Edited 2009-04-10 06:40:44]

User currently offlineHaan From South Africa, joined Aug 2004, 289 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 52753 times:

Latest on MSN017 (EK A6-EDE)
It is still scheduled for delivery on 24th April 2009.


User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 3 weeks ago) and read 52707 times:

Can anyone confirm what LH will be naming their first 380? Apologies if the answer is buried somewhere... I did some searching but only found older/conflicting info on "Berlin" and "Muenchen". Another source which I can no longer find indicated it was to be christened "Hamburg" - which I would personally love to see  Smile

User currently offlineIliriBDL From Germany, joined May 2007, 1205 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 52688 times:



Quoting Flood (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm what LH will be naming their first 380?

It will be Munich (München). Here is the article.



delta.com
User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 52666 times:



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 13):
It will be Munich (München). Here is the article.

Ah, thanks!  hissyfit 


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2789 posts, RR: 25
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 52501 times:



Quoting Flood (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm what LH will be naming their first 380?



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 13):
It will be Munich (München). Here is the article.

Sorry for being the bad guy but I made the same mistake when I started this thread: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3974985 and was kindly corrected by my fellow German a-netters  Wink: It says "ONE OF the first will be name Munich" not "THE first will be name Munich".

Best regards
N14AZ


User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2360 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 50845 times:



Quoting IliriBDL (Reply 13):

Quoting Flood (Reply 12):
Can anyone confirm what LH will be naming their first 380?

It will be Munich (München).

Any ideas on what the other names will be?



"Drunk drivers run stop signs. Stoners wait for them to turn green."
User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 50784 times:



Quoting N14AZ (Reply 15):
It says "ONE OF the first will be name Munich"

Dank' Dir... I didn't catch that either when I skimmed over the article. So I guess my hopes of "Hamburg" are still alive! Especially given the facilities at XFW, why not  smile 

Actually, "Hamburg Bergedorf" would be even better, but... ok, nevermind.


User currently offlineAircellist From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 50176 times:

Is it possible that we see double deliveries once, or even twice? I understand that, in this month's delivery planning, there are two planes for SQ, and possibly two for EK as well?

User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 49597 times:
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Quoting Aircellist (Reply 18):
Is it possible that we see double deliveries once, or even twice? I understand that, in this month's delivery planning, there are two planes for SQ, and possibly two for EK as well?

One for EK MSN017 there next one will be MSN023. MSN026 or MSN021 will be the next ones for delivery.


User currently offlineAirbusA370 From Germany, joined Dec 2008, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 49314 times:



Quoting Flood (Reply 17):
Actually, "Hamburg Bergedorf" would be even better, but... ok, nevermind.

I vote vor "Hamburg Neugraben"  Smile


User currently offlineMWHCVT From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 49210 times:

We know have SQ, EK and QF A388's in service, AF have taken to the skies and LH have rolled around in TLS, but who's airframes can we expect to see later in 2009 and onwards, I know that China Southern are due to maybe, possibly, perhaps not likely  crossfingers   duck  fly this year but all is quiet on that front, but which airlines can we expect in 2010 and 2011/12?

 veryhappy 



Must think up a new one soon, slow moving brain trying to get into gear ;)
User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 48926 times:
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Quoting MWHCVT (Reply 21):
We know have SQ, EK and QF A388's in service, AF have taken to the skies and LH have rolled around in TLS, but who's airframes can we expect to see later in 2009 and onwards, I know that China Southern are due to maybe, possibly, perhaps not likely crossfingers duck fly this year but all is quiet on that front, but which airlines can we expect in 2010 and 2011/12?

Korean Air most likely in the 12 months. But it will be just QF, SQ, EK, AF and LH for a while yet. China Southern is currently unknown.

Qantas has decided to defer some of there orders

http://a380production.com/


User currently offlineLHRlocal From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 279 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 48513 times:



Quoting AeroplaneFreak (Reply 22):
China Southern is currently unknown.

China Southern have just announced they have deferred until 2011.


User currently offlineAeroplaneFreak From Australia, joined Sep 2006, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 48442 times:
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Quoting LHRlocal (Reply 23):
China Southern have just announced they have deferred until 2011.

Yes MSN031 will be re numbered

http://a380production.com/


25 Astuteman : If you think about it, a year or so ago we were supposed to see:- 13 deliveries in 2008 25 deliveries in 2009 "40" deliveries in 2010 (actually expre
26 AeroplaneFreak : Yes a forecast of 20 to 25 sounds about right.
27 Post contains links Heavierthanair : G'day Maybe I should have posted this here http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...eneral_aviation/read.main/4383936/ With all those deferrals being ma
28 Post contains links N14AZ : MSN 019, SQ's A380 no 07, has left the hangars in XFW in full colours: http://www.hamburg-airport-friends-f...ad.php?tid=2369&pid=10128#pid10128 Deliv
29 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN007 has had new doors installed and new windows after refurbishment. MSN034 has now entered the paint hall. Also MSN021 is about the leave the pain
30 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Sorry everyone I said last week. MSN019 is out of the hangers in Hamburg but infact it was MSN021. http://forum.a380production.com/board/showthread.ph
31 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : I was just sent a production list for 2009 and 2010 and is very interesting http://a380production.com/?p=80
32 N14AZ : It’ in deed interesting as it will help to understand the discrepancy between Airbus’ official target of 18 units for 2009 (often repeated by thei
33 Claudewilks : Thanks for the info AeroplaneFreak Lufthansa 7x = 038, 041 (Q1-2010), 044, 048 (Q2-2010), 061, 066, (Q3-2010) 076 (Q4-2010) If this is true, then it w
34 Post contains links HT : On 10-May-2009 a public event will be held at BRE commemorating 100 years of flying at Neuenlander Feld. The website (only in German) dedicated to it
35 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Latest convoy has now been official confirmed as MSN041 the second for Lufthansa http://a380production.com/?p=87
36 Haan : MSN 017 is now scheduled to depart XFW at 1900utc today 24 APR 2009
37 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : New convoy announced for May 11-14 and is showing to have two forward fuselages but it may be a typo. http://a380production.com/?p=92
38 Post contains links Aircellist : So, no more deliveries for april? Or so it seems, looking at http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list Still not out of the woods yet...
39 Airvan00 : Left at 21.20 Local and is now halfway on its trip to its new home. ACARS mode: 2 Aircraft reg: A6-EDE [Airbus A388] Message label: HF Block id: 0 Ms
40 LHboyatDTW : Is there anything new on MSN033 (aka AF's first A380) ? The last I heard is that it was in a paintshop. I guess it's being outfitted and painted at Fi
41 AeroplaneFreak : Yes it is in Hamburg getting refitted. There are a few aircraft to come out ahead of it though. MSN019, MSN021, MSN026, MSN034 and then MSN033
42 KennyK : Why is Airbus only likely to deliver 1 A380 (MSN017) to Emirates in the first 4 months of this year? This can't be very productive even if they did ru
43 KennyK : Ok so who gets the next one and when ?
44 Scouseflyer : If you have a look at the table in version 3 of this thread, this was always the plan. I'm guess but not sure that it's all part of the way that they
45 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : The tail for the second A380 for Lufthansa arrived in Toulouse today. http://a380production.com/?p=100
46 Post contains links Thorben : According to this production list http://plane.spottingworld.com/A380_production_list we will see two for SQ (7th and 8th) and one for QF(4th) in May.
47 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is the April Summery http://a380production.com/?p=104
48 QFFlyer : It is going to be late June possibly early July now. Cheers
49 PM : Nice to see some Trent 900s (12) being delivered at last!
50 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a shot of MSN007 where you can see the new doors and windows installed http://a380production.com/?p=106
51 KennyK : Early this year it looked like 4 deliveries in April, ended up being 1. Then it looked like those 3 not delivered in April would be delivered in May,
52 Bigsmile : In my opinion, the proposed ramp up (A380) for 2010 is not going ahead . All build rates are under review. All is steady at current rates till June.
53 Aircellist : If I may ask, "down" or "up" to 1 per month ?
54 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is what the Final Assembly Line as of late April http://a380production.com/?p=109
55 Thorben : Are those two birds for SQ for May safe, or may they get delayed, too?
56 Bigsmile : Build rates are quoted as per month on major sub-assembly production. So a build rate of 1 per month gives you 12 over the year add to that any buffe
57 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is the next convoys and MSNs thanks to oldfly http://a380production.com/?p=111
58 Aircellist : Thanks for the explanation. Things seem so slow that I still hardly believe there is one plane made every month... But you've got numbers!
59 Post contains links PM : It's official. Just 14 deliveries this year. http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...s-a380-production-rates-again.html
60 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Airbus is CUTTING deliverys from 18-14 in 2009 for frames to be delivered see here http://a380production.com/?p=119
61 Stitch : That is one-third of what they originally planned to deliver (45) and next year will be less then half of the original plan (44). I don't see them mov
62 Heavierthanair : G'day For whatever it is worth, BBC just reported that Emirates is not deferring any deliveries of the A 380's they have on order. We'll see Cheers Pe
63 Stitch : Yes, their chairman the other day said he would be taking all scheduled Airbus and Boeing deliveries through at least the end of 2011, contradicting
64 Post contains images N14AZ : That's amazing. MSN 026 arrived in XFW on November 17th 2008. If it will be delivered end of June 2009 it will have been almost 7.5 months in XFW, wh
65 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : This has a longer wait as it is the first Wave 2 aircraft and tests have had to be done. MSN023 made its first flight from Toulouse today http://a380
66 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : The next convoy will start tomorrow http://a380production.com/?p=125
67 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Convoy #6 confirmed with photo as MSN030 and MSN046 http://a380production.com/2009/05/13/144/
68 Aircellist : So; are we still looking forward to 3 deliveries this month: MSN 019, 021 and 026? Any date announced yet? edit: looking back at N14AZ's post, I see 0
69 QFFlyer : Or even early July. EIS for OQD is planned for mid to late July. Cheers
70 Nicholaschee : 9V-SKG/SKH (MSN19/21) will upgauge SQ334/333 to 388 from 77W.
71 Aircellist : Ooooh yes, CDG, I remember I read it somewhere, now... Thanks!
72 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : new convoy posted for May 25 to May 28 http://a380production.com/2009/05/14...a380-production-update-may-2009-9/
73 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : Lots of good pictures of this week's convoy with MSN 030 and the node of 047 here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackbear_31/sets/72157618110217130/
74 KennyK : I just can't believe that in the first 4 and a half months of this year only one A380 has been delivered. I stick to my prediction that only 12 will b
75 KennyK : Airbus might well have been planning to delivery only 14 this year but Quantas have just announced they will now be taking only 3 this year, MSN 047 w
76 474218 : The problem with such a slow production rate is that it is not sustainable over a long period of time. The overhead to keep the facilities open erode
77 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Airbus to delay the delivery of Qantas's fourth A-380 Qantas stated that aircraft manufacturer Airbus delayed the delivery of the next A-380 to the ca
78 Stitch : Well Boeing is running the 747 and 767 lines at one per month each and have done so for some time (especially with the 767 line). Now I imagine Boein
79 Post contains links Thorben : I do believe that is MSN 026, the first of the so-called "second wave" with the new automatic wiring. Very bad news indeed. Edit: It is really 026 ht
80 N14AZ : That's another intersting information. Number five (MSN 027) and number six (MSN 029) arrived in XFW on April 02nd and April 03rd respectivly. If the
81 SInGAPORE_AIR : Perhaps those are the frames delayed. I recall that QF will delay some of their A380s by choice. Maybe someone can check?
82 QFFlyer : " target=_blank>http://www.aero.de/Qantas_erhaelt_vi...8.htm I am surprised it has taken this long to become "official". I posted in the previous thr
83 SpeedyGonzales : Air France seat plan: https://www.airfrance.biz/FR/fr/local/promosactualites/actualites/pdf/A380_FR.pdf
84 MarcoPoloWorld : Nice. Thanks for the link.
85 Caryjack : True, but is it the same thing? As I recall, you can see the 767, 777 and 787 production lines from one vantage point on "the tour". I would say that
86 Post contains links WingedMigrator : Some spectacular pictures here. Especially this one... that's got to be the world's most sacrosanct downspout!
87 Francoflier : "Sorry Mr. Clark, your latest A380 will be delayed by a month because we hit Mrs. Pichon's rain gutter going through Levignac..." Now, that's a headl
88 KennyK : Any news on the next delivery?
89 Scbriml : Now that's one insurance claim I'd like to read! It's difficult to believe this is the best way to build a plane in the 21st century.
90 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is the current status of the aircraft in outfitting at Hamburg http://a380production.com/2009/05/21/11/
91 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN007 had its first (second first) taxi test http://a380production.com/2009/05/21/12/
92 KennyK : Is second first second ?
93 Thorben : How many changes did it have done to it?
94 RB211 : It's still amazing to me that Prince Al bought one. Can't wait to see this one!
95 AeroplaneFreak : Well this is a test aircraft for Airbus it went to be refurbished for airline use so it is its first taxi after a major refurbishment. New doors, win
96 Post contains links and images Thorben : IIRC it will get the same boring livery as his 744. View Large View MediumPhoto © Sean Mowatt View Large View MediumPhoto © Alexandr Zhukov
97 KennyK : I wonder why Boeing have picked up several VIP orders for the 748 whilst Airbus with what I would think to be a far more prestigous aircraft has only
98 Scouseflyer : It will have had all sorts of extra bits added - sensors etc they will all havr to of been removed. The plane will also of effectively been second ha
99 AeroplaneFreak : Yes it is as Scouseflyer said. If it was just engines it would have taken less then a week.
100 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : Soem aerial photos of MSN 023 in Hamburg: http://www.aviation-community.de/for...pic.php?f=16&t=5335&p=56273#p56265
101 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a great shot of MSN007 and the work that has been done. Also MSN046 has been confirmed as the center fuselage for the next covoy. But other co
102 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : MSN 021 has flown back to Toulouse for delivery: http://www.aviation-community.de/for...pic.php?f=16&t=5062&p=56332#p56325
103 Post contains links and images N14AZ : That's exactly what I think when I see some pictures of these convoys... As someone mentioned on skyliners.de - looks very UTA-like: View Large View
104 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a shot of MSN034, MSN019 and MSN021 fully painted in Hamburg http://a380production.com/2009/05/27/1/
105 Thorben : Very small picture. All three are for SQ, it seems. Delivery can't be too far away, IMHO.
106 Post contains links and images N14AZ : There is also a picture in the database of airliners.net's sister-homepage myaviation.net. MyAviation.net photo: Photo © Daniel Hustedt Amazing shot
107 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Correct this is MSN023. MSN040 (F-WWSE) for Air France will make its first flight from Toulouse today between 13:00 and 16:00 hours Toulouse time. htt
108 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : James Bond has arrived in Hamburg: http://www.aviation-community.de/for...rd/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5950#p56552
109 Post contains links and images N14AZ : Thanks for the information, Miss Moneypenny View Large View MediumPhoto © T.Laurent Time for the next roll-out from the FAL in TLS. Last roll-ou
110 Nicholaschee : 9V-SKH (MSN 021) was handed over to SQ yesterday (28MAY09) and is now en-route to SIN. ETA 1500hrs 29MAY09 (GMT+8).
111 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Well some big news today. Both MSN025 and MSN047 were rolled out of the FAL. They are for QF and EK. Also new convoy announced and MSN007 was ferried
112 BO__einG : I was at Toulouse on May 20th and had these sights form the tour. MSN025 of EK being final fitted which from the above post has been rolled out since
113 Post contains links N14AZ : I tried to find out which A380 this could be. As you know there are two production halls for the A380. From your description it seems as if you were
114 Scouseflyer : Wasn't there also one of the SQ planes tails delivered un-livered too?
115 Post contains links N14AZ : Yes, that's true - MSN 051, the only SQ bird currently in the FAL: http://www.flickr.com/photos/28957356@N03/3449703432/sizes/o/ Also a possibility.
116 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN051 is not in final assembly it is in body join it will enter final assembly in early June. And here is the first photo of MSN025 and MSN047. MSN02
117 Nicholaschee : Star Alliance or not, SQ aircraft will still retain the corporate logo on the vertical stabilizer.
118 AeroplaneFreak : in that photo of MSN047 and MSN025 the Air France A380 is confirmed as the third for them MSN043 not MSN040. So there are now four A380s on the flight
119 Post contains images N14AZ : Woaw! So, 10 A380s have left the FAL in the first five months of this year Makes it 2 A380s per month. If they are able to keep this pace and if XFW
120 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Latest convot confirmed as MSN044 for Lufthansa and MSN046 for Emirates http://a380production.com/2009/05/30/18/
121 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN030s tail arrived in Toulouse today http://a380production.com/2009/05/30/19/
122 Nicholaschee : MSN 19 F-WWSP (9V-SKG) was ferried to TLS today.
123 BO__einG : I was told that third A380 in the FAL was a QF one in an all white tail and that was the one which was supposely to be painted in something special o
124 BO__einG : I forgot to add, I dont know if any of you guys already know the deal behind why they paint the tails first. From what I learned on the tour it was re
125 KennyK : It's probably easier to paint the tail at 'ground level' rather than 20 metres or so up in the air, not much of a reason but if it makes life easier w
126 Post contains links N14AZ : Thanks for the additional information. So it must be MSN 050: http://www.flickr.com/photos/spu/3291090898/sizes/l/ (I think that's the only pitcure a
127 Cpd : MSN021 (9V-SKH) was in Sydney this afternoon. I couldn't believe my eyes when I checked the camera screen.
128 Thorben : So they got 9V-SKH (021). What happened to 9V-SKG (019)?? Is that one delivered yet?
129 SpeedyGonzales : It has at least been ferried to TLS, not sur about delivery.
130 Thorben : I'd say the delivery should be imminent. 034 and 045 have been at XFW for a while, too. It seems SQ will have ten birds flying rather soon.
131 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN040 made its first flight today. http://a380production.com/2009/06/03/1-2/
132 Aircellist : Looking at the picture in your post, I must say I definitely preferred AF's former colors...
133 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : MSN 004 has been reengined to EA, no other visible changes yet: http://www.aviation-community.de/for...pic.php?f=16&t=5928&p=56798#p56791 Does this me
134 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : This will remain with Airbus. The latest convoy has changed to only four major components http://a380production.com/2009/06/04/2/
135 Thorben : The new ones look hardly different. However, we'll not get to see the old AF colors on an A380, we have to use the photoshop for that. Any news on 9V
136 Zvezda : 9V-SKG (MSN019) is about to arrive in SIN.
137 UA933 : What is the planned monthly schedule for LH's A380 deliveries in 2009/2010/2011? Will LH's planes still be overweight?
138 Aircellist : N14AZ, may we ask for an update of your very nice document? If ever you've got time on your hands, of course...
139 PM : No, I believe it will go to EK. Airbus will keep 001. There would be no need to keep two testbeds. And they wouldn't go to the expense of re-engining
140 Post contains links and images N14AZ : Currently working in South East Anatolia, no beer available, youtube blocked - what else could I do? Some pictures from TLS (although already outdate
141 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN040 has been transfered to XFW http://a380production.com/2009/06/06/3/
142 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : F-WWSV (MSN025) has started broadcasting ACARS read below http://a380production.com/2009/06/07/5/
143 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN027 was seen fully painted today for Qantas. It was then put back into the hangers for outfitting. http://a380production.com/2009/06/08/7/
144 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : New convoy announced http://a380production.com/2009/06/10/8/
145 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : MSN 034 is back in the air: http://www.aviation-community.de/for...pic.php?f=16&t=5266&p=57170#p57170 Seems like it will overtake 026, and be the firs
146 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Convoy #8 has been confirmed as MSN044 for Lufthansa. http://a380production.com/2009/06/11/9/
147 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Convoy #9 info has changed. MSN044 rear is included which completes MSN044. http://a380production.com/2009/06/12/10-2/
148 Post contains links N14AZ : In opposite to previous statements made by Air France, could it be that they will receive even three A380s "before the end of this year": Source: http
149 Zvezda : My German is poor, but I read that as MSN034 had a high-speed taxi test today, not a flight test. Can anyone competent in German confirm one way or t
150 SpeedyGonzales : Correct. The first poster though it was a flight test, but was later confirmed to be a taxi test. No idea.
151 Kaitak : I see that one of EK's A380s is due for delivery in November; presumably that'll be timed to arrive in time for the DXB air show?
152 AeroplaneFreak : Parts of MSN018 were used on MSN045. MSN034 is the second Wave 2 aircraft behind MSN026. MSN034 was all new parts. She will be arriving in Toulouse t
153 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a webcam of Hanger 244 in Hamburg where MSN027 is currently in. http://webcams.a380production.com/
154 Thorben : Never trust the media, especially when it is about aviation. I would suspect they meant fiscal year and F-HPJC will be delivered in 2010. Only AF as
155 Aircellist : Will there be a delivery during the airshow?
156 N14AZ : No, I don't think so. The next A380 for SQ (MSN 034) is still in XFW and even if it would be transferred to TLS today delivery within this week is no
157 FlyingAY : Is this the first A380 to be delivered, that is built with the normal production methods not including manual work with the harnesses and such?
158 Astuteman : From memory, MSN026 was the first of the "wave 2" aircraft, in that it will be wired with a configuration that was planned from the outset. I recall
159 N14AZ : Yes, that's why it took so long (besides other reasons) MSN 026: Arrival XFW: 17.11.2008 Expected delivery: 31.07.2009 => time between transfer to XF
160 MWHCVT : I have a question for the stats guy's which A380 was delivered in the shortest time? i.e. from convoy to hand over I know one of you will have the dat
161 Airvan00 : I haven’t got all the early convoy dates, but of the dates I have, I suspect MSN 22, The Qantas VH-OQC would be up near the top of the list, convoy
162 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN034 is still in Hamburg. http://forum.a380production.com/board/showpost.php?p=1570&postcount=7
163 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : This is the latest story on the FAL. http://a380production.com/2009/06/22/14-2/
164 Post contains links N14AZ : Seems as if MSN 050, Qantas' A380 no 8, has left the FAL in TLS: http://www.pictaero.com/en/pictures/picture,46789 The A380 with the white tail in the
165 NWIguy : I've heard some rumours that MSN034 is in TLS now and expecting delivery by the end of the month. Has anyone else heard anything about it? I can't see
166 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Yes MSN034 is in TLS and MSN050 has the shortest time in the FAL 156 days http://a380production.com/2009/06/23/15/
167 Post contains links N14AZ : A new article is now indicating that EK will take over only two additional A380s this year => altogether only 3 in 2009. Source: Interview with Emriat
168 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Lufthansa will get five A380S in 2010. http://a380production.com/2009/06/29/18-2/
169 Post contains links N14AZ : According to www.aviation-community.de SQ's MSN 034 has left XFW for TLS.
170 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Great shot of MSN026 http://a380production.com/2009/07/02/2-2/
171 Kennyk : Any ideas as to when MNS026 and 034 will be delivered?
172 Scouseflyer : Probably the wrong thread for this, but it is about A380 production sort of! A question for those more knowledgable than me - ages back I seem to reme
173 Post contains images Myt332 : I saw the LH A380 (MSN038?) in a hangar at JLL last week. Was interesting to see I guess. It was parked next to an EK bird, MSN028? So what building w
174 N14AZ : No, you are right: MSN 025 and MSN 028 were previously shown in the production list of planespotting world as "EK leased from ILFC" planes. Some week
175 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a update on MSN034. http://a380production.com/2009/07/06/3-2/
176 Aircellist : So, 034 has been delivered... N14AZ, whenever you've got time on your hands... May we ask for a refreshment of your chart? Thanks in advance...
177 Post contains links Sralfalo : MSN 040 now in full AF livery http://www.aviation-community.de/for.../viewtopic.php?f=16&p=58414#p58414
178 Flood : Looking good, it'll be great to see the A380 in a new livery take to the skies
179 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN025 is taxing now http://a380production.com/2009/07/09/4-2/
180 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN043 has been seen taxing now. http://a380production.com/2009/07/10/6-2/
181 Post contains links Thorben : CZ is deferring until 2011 http://research.scottrade.com/public...on=headlines&docKey=100-191u7363-1
182 Stitch : Dow Jones News also recently reported that after Airbus refused to allow TG to cancel their A380 order (as in they would not return any monies alread
183 KennyK : Looks like A380 production may hover around the 24 a year ish rate for a few years yet, even that may be being optomistic.
184 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : THAI stuck with Airbus jumbo The flag carrier had earlier sought to terminate the A380 contract or change to another future Airbus model, the A350-100
185 Post contains links Thorben : Another article suggests that it was actually Airbus delaying, due to technical reasons. They will have to pay $250 million to CZ. http://www.chinadai
186 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Great shot of MSN025,43,47 and 50. http://a380production.com/2009/07/15/9-2/
187 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a current list of A380 destinations http://forum.a380production.com/board/showthread.php?t=5
188 MarcoPoloWorld : Thank you AeroplaneFreak for all of these very informative posts. When it comes to the A380, you are truly the best.
189 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is the next convoy A380 http://a380production.com/2009/07/21/12-2/
190 Thorben : Also very interesting is the phrase: MSN026 for Qantas will be delivered next week. in that link you gave. 026 is somewhat behind its schedule, but i
191 Scouseflyer : Interesting - where's everything gone - there seemed to be a large build up of birds there ready for delivery.
192 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN026 is still in Hamburg or will be transferred to Toulouse early this week. For the convoy only the rear now remains http://forum.a380production.co
193 MarcoPoloWorld : I wonder if AeroplaneFreak reads the replies to his posts, or just posts links to his site continuously....
194 N14AZ : MSN 026 was moved into a hangar last Friday I think due to the storm on Friday.
195 Post contains links Aviationbuff : Off the topic: Interesting article by CAPA... Where to next for the Airbus A380? http://www.centreforaviation.com/new...-to-next-for-the-airbus-a380/p
196 Thorben : Either flying around (I was only there for a brief period of time) or inside the buildings. Interesting to see will be: -The first route to South Ame
197 Post contains links N14AZ : MSN 043 has been transferred to XFW today. This represents a new record: there are now 10 A380s in XFW - at least for some days, until MSN 026 will le
198 UA933 : When can we expect the first LH 380 in full livery?
199 Post contains links SInGAPORE_AIR : Sorry if this doesn't belong here... Thai Airways to delay taking A380s to Dec 2012 Thai Airways International THAI.BK said on Thursday it had negotia
200 PW100 : So now these do no longer fit in your chart? Maybe you can add the date to the Anet title of the image. From your profile it is pretty hard to determ
201 Post contains links and images N14AZ : Maybe someone of our Australian (or French) a-netters have an answer to my question: currently, there are two QF A380s on the flightline in TLS: MSN 0
202 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : A New convoy has been announced it will start on the 3rd of August. http://a380production.com/2009/07/16-3/
203 Baroque : Not at all boring for me, I am hoping I might get a QF 388 flight to London in Nov this year. The more beasts at QF the better. What I am curious abo
204 Post contains links Asiaflyer : EADS still claims that Airbus will deliver 14 A380 in 2009. Don't they follow the development on a.net at all? http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_
205 Kennyk : Any news on delivery of MSN-026 VH-OQD to QS, planned delivery slipped to July, which ends in a little over 40 hours.....
206 N14AZ : MSN 026 is now believed to be delivered in calendar week 35.
207 Post contains links N14AZ : sorry, I don't see the edit buttom: on the other side, just yesterday, MSN 026 was seen on the runway of XFW. So they just started test programme for
208 Scouseflyer : Sorry which week is week 35? Are we talking technical problems or planes only being half full so smaller birds being used to save cash?
209 Asiaflyer : Starting Monday Aug 24.
210 Post contains links N14AZ : Recently, there was a thread about (normal) mechanical problems and maintenance works and how they affect the deployment of QF's A380s on the LAX rou
211 Scouseflyer : Thanks!
212 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN047 has made its first taxi tests this week http://a380production.com/2009/07/17-3/
213 Scouseflyer : " target=_blank>http://a380production.com/2009/07/17-3/ does this suggest that the possible fears for delay of this plane and MSN050 (beacuse of the
214 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : Pictures of this week's convoy with MSN 049 fuselage and 048 tailplane: http://www.flickr.com/photos/blackbear_31/sets/72157621832905473/
215 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : With the current convoy arriving another is announced this time on August 24. Full report here http://a380production.com/2009/08/5-3/
216 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : It also has its first flight yesterday, so it seems like work is continuing on at least 047. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jacquesaero/3797541474/
217 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN047 and MSN050 will both fly before being put in storage. At the moment MSN050 the schedule is MSN050 will fly on August 25th. Then they will be pu
218 PW100 : Thanks for the update. Where in Toulouse will they be stored? BTW, congrats with your 380th post! Regards, PW100
219 Kennyk : I've been looking into Airbus' plan to deliver 14 A380s this year. So far 4 have been delivered and I gather the next, MSN026, VH-OQD for QF is due de
220 Robffm2 : How is the financial side of the deferred deliveries taken care off? I think likewise when Airbus was not in a position to deliver as agreed airlines
221 Aircellist : So, Airbus is not out of the woods yet with the A380, is it? It looks like the "dressing up" of these aircraft still takes much time, and this is comp
222 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : MSN026 will be transfered to Toulouse tomorrow prior to delivery later this month. Also MSN038 first for Lufthansa will be rolled out this week. http:
223 2175301 : I believe it is an overall indication of how week the real demand for the A380 is. Currently Airbus has I believe 181 undelivered A38's on the books.
224 Post contains links and images N14AZ : I think they will store it on the Aero Constellation production flight line close to the J-L. LAGARDERE final assembly line, the location, where MSN
225 NicoEDDF : Just saw a beautiful QF A380 yesterday, 6.20 p.m. flying over the east-west runway in HAM from my office. Damn beautiful bird, especially in QF colors
226 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Here is a video of the latest convoy. http://www.flickr.com/photos/aviationphotos/3811702406/
227 Post contains links N14AZ : No real new news for the A380-die-hard-fans but simply a small update on LH's A380s including some pictures: - MSN 038: Power on expected for August 2
228 KennyK : Hi N13AZ, Any news as to when we may see the first A380 in full Lufthansa colours?
229 KennyK : Sorry N14AZ, dropped you by one
230 Post contains links Heavierthanair : G'day http://www.aero.de/Jungfernflug_des_...thansa_A380_im_September__8978.htm It says here that they (LH) are considering 20 possible destinations f
231 Post contains links N14AZ : MSN 038 will be transferred to XFW at the end of September. Based on the experience with AF's first A380 (spotted first in full colours in May 2009 (
232 Thorben : I think 20 is the number in normal times with a bit of growth compared to 2006/2007. My wild guess of destinations: BOS JFK IAD ORD MIA LAX SFO IAH M
233 Post contains links SpeedyGonzales : 026 has finally been transferred back to Toulouse: http://www.aviation-community.de/for...pic.php?f=16&t=4831&p=59703#p59698 The are considering 20 de
234 N14AZ : Two days after this post, someone changed the delivery date of MSN 025 on planespottingworld back to December 2009. If this is true, then we would se
235 Post contains links AeroplaneFreak : Jus to clear a few things up. MSN025 will be delivered in December, MSN028 has been delayed until January. MSN038 will be rolled out this coming week.
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