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NW 757 Service In The Midwest  
User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2434 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5345 times:

Right now I'm looking at booking a NW 757 flight to MSP in May. This got me thinking, aside from MKE and the three hubs, does NW fly 757s to any other cities in the Midwest? If not, I guess NW bringing in 757s from MSP is something MKE can be proud of a little bit eh? Especially with two other airlines on the route. There's also one 757 flight to/from DTW but that's changing to a DC-95 this summer.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15692 posts, RR: 26
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5328 times:

Well, domestic 757 flights are being cut back across the board due to 757s being committed to trans Atlantic flights. There just aren't as many short 757 flights as there used to be. I don't think that AA flies them on STL-ORD anymore either.


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User currently offlineElBandGeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 753 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5319 times:

Last I checked they were running them MSP-MDW but I don't know if they'v downgraded since then. They usually come and go every so often. I think they upgraded it because of WN starting the route.
NW puts any variety of narrowbodies between MSP/DTW and Chicago. O'Hare and Midway both see their share of CRJs (I think -900s exclusively) Ejets, DC9s, A319s, A320s, and 757s (both -200s and on occasion, -300s)


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7526 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5268 times:

Not considered the Midwest, but for such a short flight its not bad. DEN will see a 757, MDW does see a 752, pre-merger IND saw a 753. Of course a few MSP-DTW. MSP-MEM gets a daily 753.


Back in the day FAR got a few 757's a day.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5242 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 1):
I don't think that AA flies them on STL-ORD anymore either.

We HAD 3 daily but right now AA.com shows 2 757 STL-ORD April 13th, Flight 1548 and Flight 1008, we also have 3 757's STL-DFW, not "short" but certainly not long either.

So STL themselves see 5 daily 757 Midwest Flights, 2-ORD and 3-DFW (in a way haha)

I know UA used to fly a 757 STL-ORD also it was a DEN-STL-ORD routing.

DL used to fly a 757 STL-CVG as well back in 2003 I think.

NW can't fit a 757 at their current gates in STL or I bet they would have.

Alex



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User currently onlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6514 posts, RR: 51
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5235 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 3):
MSP-MEM gets a daily 753.

This one goes to an A320 on June 4th...no more 757's on MSP-MEM after June 3rd.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15692 posts, RR: 26
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5219 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
We HAD 3 daily but right now AA.com shows 2 757 STL-ORD April 13th,

I was looking at winter time tables, so I guess my info was out of date.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
I know UA used to fly a 757 STL-ORD also it was a DEN-STL-ORD routing

I don't remember seeing UA 757s there. Of course at the time I was probably mor interested in the 767s and L-1011s. I also heard somewhere that UA's STL-ORD flights were going to all RJs or nearly all RJs soon. Seriously, they can fly a 757 to Omaha but not St. Louis?

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
NW can't fit a 757 at their current gates in STL or I bet they would have.

Not surprising. Concourse A is kind of tight over there. NW gets a pass though because they send DC-9s instead.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4358 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5192 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
757 to Omaha but not St. Louis?

DSM has a 752 RON from DEN occasionally as well. UA is #1 in terms of passengers in Des Moines, even eclipsing NW slightly.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL237



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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

Depends on your definition of "midwest," I suppose...

Using the central time zone as a rough boundary, MKE & MSP are the only cities that see the '57.



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 4 days ago) and read 4957 times:



Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):

I was looking at winter time tables, so I guess my info was out of date.

No Problem, I think for winter, no 757's, but for spring/summer, we have 757's.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):

I don't remember seeing UA 757s there. Of course at the time I was probably mor interested in the 767s and L-1011s. I also heard somewhere that UA's STL-ORD flights were going to all RJs or nearly all RJs soon. Seriously, they can fly a 757 to Omaha but not St. Louis?

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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 6):
Not surprising. Concourse A is kind of tight over there. NW gets a pass though because they send DC-9s instead.

NW lobbied to try to get a gate change as they wanted to fly the Airbus and 757 into STL, finally NW switched to a DL CUTE gate, and flew the Airbus from MSP and DTW during thanksgiving week back in 07 I believe.

No 757 yet, but NW has brought every aircraft in their fleet including the 747, 753, 752, A330 to STL for charter purposes.

Alex



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User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7526 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4883 times:



Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 5):
This one goes to an A320 on June 4th...no more 757's on MSP-MEM after June 3rd.

Indeed a backup check in PARS shows this. I just got a Skyteam timetable update last night and it was still not showing any of these changes and still showed GFK not being screwed out of service by aircraft downgrades.

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 4):
NW can't fit a 757 at their current gates in STL or I bet they would have.

I don't know, for quite a while until recently NW was pretty much only sending CR9's and CRJ's to STL.

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 8):
Using the central time zone as a rough boundary, MKE & MSP are the only cities that see the '57.

While it may be a short time MEM is in the Central time zone.



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User currently offlineMke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2434 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 4880 times:



Quoting ElBandGeek (Reply 2):
Last I checked they were running them MSP-MDW but I don't know if they'v downgraded since then.

Now that you mention it I do remember seeing 757s on that route in the past, and looking on NWA.com it appears NW has one MSP-MDW 757 flight starting in May.

Quoting ElBandGeek (Reply 2):
I think they upgraded it because of WN starting the route.

The same happened here when FL announced MKE-MSP. At point NW had it upgraded to 6x757 a day from MSP!!! Its since been changed to a mix of 757 and Airbus though.



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4781 times:



Quoting Mke717spotter (Reply 11):
The same happened here when FL announced MKE-MSP. At point NW had it upgraded to 6x757 a day from MSP!!! Its since been changed to a mix of 757 and Airbus though.

It always goes back and forth, but I have not seen any fewer than 2 757s on the route. MKE is the fourth largest elite city in the NW network. I was on a 757 flight to DTW once and the gate agent actually said, "For all seven of you non-elite flyers we will board you after boarding the rest of the plane of Elite flyers." He was not kidding. The whole flight---and it was full---only a handful were NOT elites!


User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 4735 times:



Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 10):
While it may be a short time MEM is in the Central time zone.

Correct, but I consider MEM as being in the south, which is why I didn't include it...



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4677 times:



Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 13):
Correct, but I consider MEM as being in the south, which is why I didn't include it...

It is funny to see how we are geographically different.

In my area, I reside in Southern Illinois. We are considered the Midwest, and that goes to including N/S Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, Milwaulkee, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

For our news program the local ones, they include these states for weather in the Midwest, however when they need to get specific, my area is Mid-Central, and Tenn, KY is Mid-South, which even weather.com uses too.

Alex



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User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4617 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 14):
It is funny to see how we are geographically different.

It certainly is.  Smile

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 14):
In my area, I reside in Southern Illinois. We are considered the Midwest, and that goes to including N/S Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, Milwaulkee, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

I'm not that far away from you, and I would never consider TN, or KY as "midwest."



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User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4597 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 14):
We are considered the Midwest, and that goes to including N/S Dakota, Minnesota, Nebraska, Milwaulkee, Illinois, Missouri, Kansas, Michigan, Indiana, Kentucky, and Tennessee.

All states.... except Milwaukee......... Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.



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User currently offlineIowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4358 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4587 times:
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Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 14):
Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 13):
Correct, but I consider MEM as being in the south, which is why I didn't include it...


It is funny to see how we are geographically different.



Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 15):
I'm not that far away from you, and I would never consider TN, or KY as "midwest."

Me either.

Historically, TN has always been considered the south, with KY sometimes being considered the south. However these days KY is considered the south with some of MO being considered the south as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_United_States



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User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4555 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 16):
All states.... except Milwaukee......... Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.

I dunno... MKE is kind of it's own little world. LOL.



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User currently offlineSmcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4551 times:



Quoting Nwaesc (Reply 18):
I dunno... MKE is kind of it's own little world. LOL.

Not to get off topic, but over here the term "Madison: The City Surrounded by Reality" is its own little world  Smile



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User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4488 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 16):
All states.... except Milwaukee......... Milwaukee is in Wisconsin.

DUH! Wisconsin, yes I meant!  Smile Sorry!!!

Alex



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User currently offlineMauiman31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4460 times:
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No NW 757's at MCI. . . but, AA and UA send one or two our way every day -- back forth to DFW and DEN hubs. In fact, those 75's are the biggest aircraft currently scheduled at MCI. We have no pax wide-bodies scheduled, except an occasional charter and at the freight terminals, of course.

User currently offlineNwaesc From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3380 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4410 times:



Quoting Smcmac32msn (Reply 19):
Not to get off topic, but over here the term "Madison: The City Surrounded by Reality" is its own little world

I was waiting for that! LOL.

There's a reason why one of the local weeklies is called "77 square."



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User currently offlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2347 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4321 times:



Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 14):
I reside in Southern Illinois. We are considered the Midwest,

And Carbondale is farther south than Louisville.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22680 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 3281 times:



Quoting TVNWZ (Reply 23):
And Carbondale is farther south than Louisville.

...and almost exactly the same latitude as Richmond, the capital of the Confederacy.



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25 BMI727 : The people there are a lot like people from the South. Illinois is kind of divided between north of Springfield and south of Springfield. South of th
26 Cubsrule : STL probably gets a 763 as a sub once a month; it wouldn't shock me if MCI did too.
27 JohnJ : According to nwa.com, the 757 will be back on NW 444/459 (MSP-MEM-MSP) starting on August 18. They don't specify the type of 757, but Expedia shows i
28 EXAAUADL : Has NW ever operated the 757 into GRR??????????????
29 PSU.DTW.SCE : scheduled, no. operational sub and/or charter - yes Places like GRB, TVC and even PLN have seen the NW 757 on charters DTW-IND and MSP-IND often see
30 BMI727 : They must be bulk loaded for those flights since I don't think that AA (or any other pax airline) has container handling equipment there.
31 SurfandSnow : Midwestern airports (aside from ORD and MDW) are more or less spacious and underutilized compared to their coastal counterparts. Plus, they aren't too
32 BMI727 : That is sound logic, but airlines do not always follow sound logic. Hence DCA and LGA being clogged with RJs flying routes that could support larger
33 Favre : GRR-MSP/DTW During Spring Break
34 Cubsrule : I believe AA still has container handling equipment; IIRC, it lives down at the end of C, where the 763 generally parks when it's here.
35 KingAir200 : This was the first year in a long time that the 757 didn't swing through GRR over spring break time.
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