Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18832 posts, RR: 54 Posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 5705 times:
Are you a cabin crew member/flight attendant? If so, who for? What benefits and allowances do you get? I am simply curious based on someone mentioning them in another thread.
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Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18832 posts, RR: 54 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5589 times:
Quoting Scrappy27 (Reply 1): This is not the right place(on a public forum) to publish everyones salaries, allowances, concessions etc etc
You may state the actual benefit, i.e. free travel, limitations (i.e. how often?), etc. You need not specify earnings, etc. And you need not specify employer if you don't wish to.
[Edited 2009-04-10 05:45:18]
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A340Crew From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 261 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 5493 times:
Most airline employee's (ramp, customer service agents, flight attendants, ect) travel free on the airline they work for. It is standby travel. Pilots can sit in the flight deck jump seat if a seat in the cabin is not available, and f/a's can sit in the f/a jumpseat if their is an empty one and no available cabin seats. For other employees such as ramp agents, customer service agents and even employees who work in HDQ its space available standby travel so if theirs an empty seat you can get on. Also usually your parents, spouse, and children are included in your benefits so they can travel free to on standby.
As far as other airlines their are zed agreements where you pay a small amount to travel standby on another airline. Some airlines like FL and B6 who are not part of zed will allow you and you parents/spouse/children to travel on them for $25/each one way standby.
Doug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3163 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 5308 times:
Most is a dangerous word. In the US perhaps most airline employees get some kind of flight privileges. I believe this is pretty common in Europe as well, but less common in in Asia. While these benefits are sometimes free, employees often have to pay a per flight or yearly fee to use them. Parents (if included) almost always do. Most airlines that allow travel in premium cabins seem to charge for this as well. I haven't seen too many restrictions on the amount of travel you do at US carriers, but have heard of a limited number of trips from pilots who work on contract for Asian carriers (not sure if this is a function of the airlines policy for all employees or just something for the oversees contract employees). Employees are responsible for international taxes and some fees, which makes the benefit less desirable in Europe I understand. In the US, if you have free travel you can go SFO-JFK and not pay a cent. My understanding is that non-rev travelers in Europe get hit by many more taxes and fees. Hopefully some crewmembers outside the US can chime in on the above.
As far as allowances go, almost all US carriers give employees a per diem ($1-3) for every hour they spend outside of base. Uncle sam does not tax per diem earned on overnight trips, which is nice.
Scrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 273 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4829 times:
I work for a UK airline and my standby tickets definitely are not for free!! (I wish they were!).. for a little bit more, one can more or less pay for a confirmed ticket on other carriers!!??
Staff Travel isnt necessarily as good as it seems (depending on the employer)
LH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2257 posts, RR: 17 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 4778 times:
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Quoting Scrappy27 (Reply 5): I work for a UK airline and my standby tickets definitely are not for free!! (I wish they were!).. for a little bit more, one can more or less pay for a confirmed ticket on other carriers!!??
I'm no Cabin crew member, but yes, on top of that you will have to pay taxes and fees, however my experience is that as soon as you get a free seat on your desider plane (as PAD) you pay roughly a quarter of the Eco saver tariff and if the Purser / Captain approves even a seat in C is more everyday business than excemption. So still, PAD tavelling is the cheapest way, as long as you have a little time on your hands, enjoy the last minute uncertainess of the leg-forecast shows 10 overbooked in each class and you hold a low ID PAD ticket
Family etc can fly at 5-50 % depending on relation, (partners enoy the same conditions as the airline employee) alos often you get free-flight vouchers wich you are free to give away to whoever you like.
FAs at a mayor euorpean airline for example earn a figure X a month and get roughly 1/4 * 1/3 of that summ as allowances on top of that. So for a 3 day layover in JFK allowance would be around 100 Euro minimum whereas a shorthaul daytrip only will earn you a fraction of that. Allowance for 4 Days in China can reach up to 300-500 USD depending on seniority, All in all allowances will easily cover spendings for lunch, dinner and occasional shopping / sightseeing tours including Taxi, etc.
That's what I was told by Cabin crew members, allowances for Cockpit crews can reach a level on wich the allowances itself can be higher than a junior FAs regular salary.
[Edited 2009-04-11 16:42:04]
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Babybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 3512 posts, RR: 6 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4368 times:
Quoting Scrappy27 (Reply 5): Staff Travel isnt necessarily as good as it seems (depending on the employer)
This is true. In my last airline we got unlimited ID75s and limited ID50s etc but they often worked out more expensive than a public ticket. The only advantage is the staff ticket was fully flexible unlike the public ticket at that price.
I got 3 confirmed return tickets a year too but used these for travelling back and forth to my overseas base. I was HQ staff not cabin crew.
My concessions were also availalble to my family but I didn't persuade them to use them as I didn't want them standing at airports waiting for available flights. As a single no problem, but a family..no way.
and with that..cabin crew, seats for landing please.
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