MaxPowers From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 475 posts, RR: 0 Posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 3404 times:
Is Jet Blue going to be the next powerhouse in the coming up years? They made a profit in the first 6 months, and they have realy cheep fairs to populat routs and are expanding. Expecialy in the down economy and bull markets, more people can fly thanks to Jet Blue...
Any Comments, any posts bashing me or my post are not welcome, but only sensable replys are.
Thanks in advance
KonaB777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 3184 times:
One of the things that I believe is helping jetBlue very well is the fact that they are operating brand new A320s instead of ratty old DC9s or 737-200s. And, they're not trying to grow to fast a la Western Pacific or serving underserved markets a la Pan Am 3.
jetBlue appears to be on its way to being to the new decade what Southwest was to the 1970s.
Lindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3096 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3168 times:
Let's hope so! Having flown "JetBleu" several times across the country, I have yet to find any cause for complaint about their service. It's also very good that they are starting daytime service to ONT and OAK. Now they just need to start service to SAN so I can visit me mum and go to the beach.
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 4167 posts, RR: 38
Reply 7, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 3164 times:
Yall gotta remember though... cheap fares and stuff are great for starting up to get customers. Remember ValuJet? They cut some major corners when it came to maintenance. Just wait until the planes build their time up and have to go into heavy maintanence. That will be the determining factor as to how successful they will really be.
VirginA340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3146 times:
XFSUgimpB41X; God I hope that doesn't happen. many innocent men, women and children are now dead or injured or even scared for life along with the familes who are left behind to pick up the pices due to airline/FAA screw ups everytime a plane crashes due to them When the NTSB gets more power; You better bet I'll be celebrating. I've been through it myself.
DCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4451 posts, RR: 35
Reply 10, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 6 hours ago) and read 3145 times:
If JetBlue management continues to run the carrier as well as they have so far, the airline can look forward to a bright future. They have the world's largest O & D market as their base, exceptionally high a/c utilization, high quality service, and a cost structure that can keep fares low.
Neil's right that the market is dynamic, though. I'm convinced that the Big 6/ Oligopoly-Cartel carriers are keeping hands off JetBlue this year. They want their yummy anticompetitive supermergers approved, and they'll probably behave until consolidation gets through. After that, should it happen, is anybody's guess.
JetBlue CEO Neeleman recently said, though, that he would not mind mergers because JetBlue is ready to take the majors on. I hope so, because if superconsolidation happens, Big Air will drop the 2001 nice-guy act and try to destroy them.
Johnboy From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 2555 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (12 years 11 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3102 times:
I just can't see the direct competition between jetBlue and Southwest yet. They both seem to have their specific niches, let alone the number of passengers, planes, etc. Southwest is still more point to point, and jetBlue is VERY much a New York-based O & D airline. Granted, jetBlue has a great population base in the Northeast to work with, but not many people are willing to connect at JFK traveling from the West Coast to Florida. It's like the airlines are inhabiting parallel universes.
Nrlcd From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3060 times:
I think JetBlue is still too new for any of us to be making predictions on its success. I think it will be successful however, but that is just a personal hope! I think as the company begins to put some more months under its belt, it will be opening more destinations for its service. If the majors keep treating its passengers like cattle, then I think JetBlue will do well. BUt it does need to open more markets.....like Midwest Express...I think it could be great, but it offers too few destinations..its sad..ie, MInneapolis is in the midwest, but the NWA "monopoly" at MSP probably prevents Midwest Express from going there. sad.
Michigan4life From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 212 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3037 times:
It has been said in the past that a main reason jetBlue's future is so bright is because of their congressional backing; that no airline will try to undercut jetBlue, because no airline, major or small, wants to be subjected to a congressional investigation. jetBlue has a lot of support as far as DC is concerned.
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6150 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3028 times:
Hopefully JetBlue will be succesfull , I can imagine them in the next 20 years . Thanks to Jetblue people can travel between NY and some cities in the country without having to pay 1,000 dollars just for a roundtrip ticket. JetBlue has the ingredients to be sucessful and luck seems to be at its side , so hopefully they will continue to be sucessfull .
Goingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3022 times:
They will be a power as long as they are able to keep their costs down. Currently, they are non-union. As they grow, there will most likely be a move to organize the employees. If this happens and they (employees) only look at bottom line "how much will I make per hour", then their costs could skyrocket -giving them little advantage of a much larger major, outside of a PTV in every seat, and even those, in time, will cost as they will most likely require repair.
TWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2992 times:
Actually Neil, the Civil Aviation Board (CAB) was tremendous for the airlines. It was the CAB that limited their competition, ensured their monopolies, and upheld their high pricing. So, while re-regulation is not expected, you can bet their are friends and supporters of a CAB-like agency within the HQs of our major airlines.
ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6489 posts, RR: 33
Reply 22, posted (12 years 11 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 2988 times:
I believe that JetBlue will indeed become a powerhouse at JFK; it wouldn't surprise me to see 200 daily departures there in 10 years or so. It depends on how saturated the market becomes with AA and DL committing substantial resources to JFK in the medium term. There is, however, a theoretical maximum size to the market; after all, they do want to fill the planes with passengers paying a sufficient fare to break even. Setting up a high-quality low-fare operation at JFK was certainly a brilliant idea, though - a great untapped market.
JetBlue and Southwest will be unlikely to compete directly in the next several years; right now, they only compete on some connecting routes from BUF to Florida, as well as indirect competition between ISP/JFK and Florida. Currently, Southwest's fares to Florida from ISP are slightly lower than B6's fares from JFK. As they both grow their low-fare systems, there will be greater potential for competition; however, I think Southwest is extremely unlikely to enter JetBlue's JFK market niche; JetBlue's main competition there would likely be Delta Express. By the same token, as Southwest manages to further build up its operations in the east and generally nationwide, JetBlue will find it difficult to add a second base of operations without directly competing against Southwest or a major's fortress hub.
JetBlue has a good product and image so far. I think they likely got an amazing deal on their A320's since I think Airbus wanted to prove that a low-fare carrier based on their narrowbody fleet would work; it remains to be seen how favorable JetBlue's terms will look like for long-term orders. Costs will also increase as their employees all advance along the wage scale - that's a long-term minus. JFK's operational problems for about 6 hours each day also raise costs just a bit.
The main thing I wonder about is - where do they go after fully exploiting the JFK market - just like you ask where AirTran goes post-Atlanta (PIT?) or Frontier post-DEN.