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User currently offlineRussianJet From Kyrgyzstan, joined Jul 2007, 7633 posts, RR: 23
Posted (5 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2897 times:
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.........so says a British MEP, Caroline Lucas.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/ar...abbing-person-street-says-MEP.html

Just when you thought the hysteria surrounding the alleged environmental impact of aviation couldn't get any more ridiculous and acute than it already is, up pops this ridiculous individual.

I've heard some silly things in my time, but this is just plain insulting.


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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

And to think this women gets paid to spout this utter rubbish. She should be removed from her job if she has to make childish and pathetic comments like this.

What i love is the way a Green Party Spokeman said 'Her comments have been taken out of context'. How?

So what does she propose then, if murderers and 'binge flyers' are the comparative. Do the courts let murders off and charge them APD, or do all flyers get life imprisonment, serving atleast 15 years unitl eligable for parole?



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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3197 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2777 times:

Well I'm a binge flyer! And I'm proud of that fact. And I will continue to be one.

Seriously movement is becoming more and more like a religion/cult everyday and less and less rational. I think the financial crisis is driving them to take even more extreme positions on things because everyday folk are taking less interest when they think they're going to loose their jobs or houses.


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2733 times:



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 2):

I agree.

Also the thing which annoys me about these environmentalists is they seem to think they are being cool acting like this. They think that by saying such stupid things they will be patted on the back by a majority of the public and they will become a 'super star' politician. I hate it.



Eagles may soar high, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines!
User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21417 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2732 times:



Quoting Lufthansa (Reply 2):
Seriously movement is becoming more and more like a religion/cult everyday and less and less rational.

No, actually, to some of us who never bought into the cult, it's ALWAYS been a religion/cult, and we are/were saddened and dismayed that so many people were buying in to it. We now may have reached a point of no return. For example, despite ice increasing at the poles, temps cooling over the last decade, polar bear populations increasing, etc., etc., the general public believes the exact opposite is happening because "they know it is" and they are being fed these lies, unchallenged, and made to feel shamed if they do challenge them. This is exactly what a cult religion does to it's followers. Exactly. Feeds you the opposite of the truth and shames you if you doubt it...

And what really bothers me is that we are all going to be funneling money and effort away from issues that really need our attention such as REAL pollution, poverty, disease, death and wasting the resources on a false threat, simply because that false threat dovetails nicely into a socialist agenda of restriction of freedoms and redistribution of wealth. It's 1984, but instead of the fake wars happening far away, there's a fake global menace. Heck, here in lovely Pasadena CA there are these "funny" ads at bus stops that show staged mug shots of "criminals" who use too much water and asking you, the citizen, to report these people. Sounds very Orwellian to me...



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User currently offlineLufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 3197 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2690 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
Sounds very Orwellian to me...

Indeed... and to prove your point further, I was actually going to post something more similar to what you wrote however I restricted myself out of fear of offending those who buy into this stuff...which itself is very orwellian!

Prove it eco-nazi's. You wanna restrict aviation (and humanity) prove the link. Not just show some correlation because that's not enough. eg. Everybody drinks water. And we can observe that everybody who drinks water also eventually dies. It therefore has a 100% positive correlation. Therefore we can conclude that drinking water causes death and therefore we must all cease drinking water? Yes of course it doesn't add up. But that's the danger of using correlation alone as evidence. It says asolutely nothing about cause and effect. And its even worse when the recent data isn't even correlated... god what do you do then?


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7210 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2633 times:

I hate to be ackward, but apparently this statement was made on an ITV debate.

Having looked on the ITV, (and BBC) websites, I am unable to find any details of this story.


User currently offlineGffgold From Indonesia, joined Feb 2007, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2373 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
For example, despite ice increasing at the poles, temps cooling over the last decade, polar bear populations increasing

C'mon, now. Reveal your sources.

Whether global warming is real or not is somewhat off topic for this forum, but whether or not commercial aviation is to blame is fair game. Working on the assumption (you may disagree, Ikra) that atmospheric carbon emissions are causing problems, this lady in the UK should remember that commercial aviation is but a minor contributor to such emissions.

I wonder why aviation hs become such a scapegoat? If you want to see real CO2 emissions just fly over Sumatra or Borneo in the burning season.


User currently offlineB747-4U3 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2002, 988 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2167 times:

Unfortunately in the UK, idiots like this woman never get stabbed, and there are rarely, if ever, any reprisals for making such a stupid comment because it concerns the environment, and therefore it's ok (apparently). It is getting to the stage where to deny man-made climate change is akin to denying the holocaust. It probably won't be much longer before it is made illegal to deny anthropogenic climate change.

Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 4):
And what really bothers me is that we are all going to be funneling money and effort away from issues that really need our attention such as REAL pollution, poverty, disease, death and wasting the resources on a false threat, simply because that false threat dovetails nicely into a socialist agenda of restriction of freedoms and redistribution of wealth.

You're right. This has nothing to do with the environment, but everything to do with their socialist agenda. Greens are never satisfied. Why? Because improving the sustainability of certain vehicles or agricultural techniques is useless to the green brigade unless it is accompanied by a significant advancement in their socialist agenda...and thanks to the brilliant work of Frederich August von Hayer we all know that socialism doesn't work.

Greens are just like watermelons...green on the outside and red on inside.


User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1807 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2164 times:



Quoting Gffgold (Reply 7):
I wonder why aviation hs become such a scapegoat?

Exactly. I have said before how has shipping got away with it? I stood at Calais docks the other day and the Sh*t that comes out of ferrys etc is unbelievable.



Eagles may soar high, but weasels dont get sucked into jet engines!
User currently offline0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 934 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

So is driving a car as bad as "ethnic cleansing"/genocide?


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User currently offline0NEWAIR0 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 934 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2086 times:



Quoting Gffgold (Reply 7):
C'mon, now. Reveal your sources.

Here's an interesting read for you: http://www.ncpa.org/pub/ba551



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