797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1908 posts, RR: 27 Posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8017 times:
I did a search and couldn't find any matches. This was posted on April 13th, 2009.
I found these videos of the 738 Fleet Training Manager Captain showing off the newest 738s AA will be receiving in the following months. Then, a FA shows the new features of the AA cabin, which IMHO are a modest improvement of what they had before. Pitty they didn't upgrade the seats with PTVs, but hey, something its something.
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7079 times:
Doesn't AA take delivery of their planes, already in their livery? In the cockpit video, it show the airplane in the unfinished hull, still green. Was this a stock video at the Boeing facility? Or does AA receive them this way, brush the aluminum themselves and paint the livery? The winglets were already prepared.
PR. Youtube has become an effective, and free, advertising media for all sorts of businesses.
I find the magazine slot beneath the armrest to be pretty clever, I don't know if anybody did that before. Apart from that... nothing new.
The HUD is only new to AA, and I don't know if I understood that correctly, but didn't AA's 737 NG's already have a Cabin Altitude and Take Off Config warnings? Or just that they're designed differently now?
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
QQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2300 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5826 times:
Quoting Francoflier (Reply 6): The HUD is only new to AA, and I don't know if I understood that correctly, but didn't AA's 737 NG's already have a Cabin Altitude and Take Off Config warnings? Or just that they're designed differently now?
AA's original 738s had HUDs as well, it's just the new a/c have a different HUD system. Also, Boeing made changes to the cabin atlitude/take-off config warnings after the Helios crash. In that accident the pilots mistook the the cabin pressurization warning for an erroneous take-off config warning.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4089 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5502 times:
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It is a very nice airplane but I would still prefer to fly on a Super 80 instead of a 737.
The MD-80 is pleasant to fly on especially if you are seated in F Class or within the first 10 rows in Y Class, because it rises quickly and quietly. Nevertheless I enjoyed watching the videos of the new 737's at AA.
LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5420 times:
Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 4): Doesn't AA take delivery of their planes, already in their livery? In the cockpit video, it show the airplane in the unfinished hull, still green. Was this a stock video at the Boeing facility? Or does AA receive them this way, brush the aluminum themselves and paint the livery? The winglets were already prepared.
AA takes delivery of it's aircraft in full livery. The fotage of the green AA 737 was taken at the Renton plant. The video of the captain was taken at an AA facility.
Did you see the new F seat? Better recline without "disturbing the person behind." Now that has got to be something new and special in domestic F.
BTW, are these new F seats going to be put on the 757's as well?
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4831 times:
Sorry to bump, but does anyone happen to know who is the manufacturer of those F seats? I know the Y seats were made by Weber (as they look VERY similar to DL's slimline seats), however, not sure about F.
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Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 12094 posts, RR: 62
Reply 19, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4752 times:
I'll be interested to give those new seats a try. They look awfully thin, but they do appear - at least from the video - to recline pretty deeply.
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 8): It's a shame they don't have PTV's. I wonder what kept them from doing so...
It's not worth it. Research has consistently shown time and again that customers simply don't value PTVs enough to pay for them. Much like food, legroom, and so many other common complaints, people want them and think they sound nice, but would not be willing to pay for what it would cost to install them. And remember, it's not just the installation - it's also the extra several hundred pounds of weight (and thus increased fuel burn) that you have to deal with on every flight, every day, for the life of the plane.
Some say that PTVs will soon become required, driven by competition (JetBlue, Delta, Continental, etc.). And that may well be true. But until it is an absolute competitive imperative, I don't see why AA would spend all the money it takes to install, maintain and carry around those things - especially since many people will never use them. As other posters in this thread and elsewhere have often suggested, nowadays iPods and laptops have replaced inflight entertainment of any kind for people. I know I definitely fall into that camp: I'd certainly rather watch something on my computer, or listen to my music, any day over the (usually) crappy programming the airline has on.
At a time like this: why spend the money that you don’t have to?
Quoting STT757 (Reply 13): It must be hard to clean that though, all sorts of stuff might fall in there.
That's the first thing I though, as well: man are those things going to get disgustingly dirty. I would never put my laptop down in that thing. Yuck.
Quoting Divemaster08 (Reply 14): Out of interest, does anybody know the timescale before we can expect this seating to be the standard on the 737s?
It's going to be a long time. The new 76 737s arriving between now and 2011 will all have this configuration. However, the 77 already in the fleet won't be getting these upgrades anytime soon. I suspect it won't happen for several years, at least. There is just no money for it, and the cabins on the existing 737s aren't all that bad (comparatively) as they are. They are a humongous upgrade (newer, cleaner, more modern) from the 757 cabins, and that fleet's upgrades have now been put on hold indefinitely because of what's going on with the economy.
SFOJFK From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4436 times:
Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 20): The first "old" 738 to be retrofitted is due out 1Q2010. The current schedule has the 77 original a/c complete with mods by the end of 1Q2011. Subject to change, of course!
Will the new mod up the seat count to 160 and adjust the rear galley size?