797 From Venezuela, joined Aug 2005, 1821 posts, RR: 26 Posted (4 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6812 times:
Greetings everyone,
I did a search and couldn't find any matches. This was posted on April 13th, 2009.
I found these videos of the 738 Fleet Training Manager Captain showing off the newest 738s AA will be receiving in the following months. Then, a FA shows the new features of the AA cabin, which IMHO are a modest improvement of what they had before. Pitty they didn't upgrade the seats with PTVs, but hey, something its something.
ContinentalAUS From United States of America, joined May 2006, 55 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5990 times:
Looks like a nice plane! I flew an AA 738 last summer and these new aircraft definitely look better. Ready to fly on one...
Skibum9 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1229 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5874 times:
Doesn't AA take delivery of their planes, already in their livery? In the cockpit video, it show the airplane in the unfinished hull, still green. Was this a stock video at the Boeing facility? Or does AA receive them this way, brush the aluminum themselves and paint the livery? The winglets were already prepared.
Francoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3195 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5266 times:
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 5): I don't get the point of the videos.
PR. Youtube has become an effective, and free, advertising media for all sorts of businesses.
I find the magazine slot beneath the armrest to be pretty clever, I don't know if anybody did that before. Apart from that... nothing new.
The HUD is only new to AA, and I don't know if I understood that correctly, but didn't AA's 737 NG's already have a Cabin Altitude and Take Off Config warnings? Or just that they're designed differently now?
Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
OB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2966 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5212 times:
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 5): What's new about it? Why so much fuss for an standard plane? I don't get the point of the videos.
That's the point. It's supposed to build up hype about AA's new and re-configured 737-800s. It's nice to see a major American airline taking pride in its fleet again.
MHTripple7 From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 1050 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5096 times:
It's a shame they don't have PTV's. I wonder what kept them from doing so...
QQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2198 posts, RR: 14 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4621 times:
Quoting Francoflier (Reply 6): The HUD is only new to AA, and I don't know if I understood that correctly, but didn't AA's 737 NG's already have a Cabin Altitude and Take Off Config warnings? Or just that they're designed differently now?
AA's original 738s had HUDs as well, it's just the new a/c have a different HUD system. Also, Boeing made changes to the cabin atlitude/take-off config warnings after the Helios crash. In that accident the pilots mistook the the cabin pressurization warning for an erroneous take-off config warning.
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 8): I wonder what kept them from doing so...
They're blind and deaf. They have no vision and repeatedly don't hear, or better yet, ignore, customer and flight attendant feedback on the topic.
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American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3320 posts, RR: 14 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4297 times:
It is a very nice airplane but I would still prefer to fly on a Super 80 instead of a 737.
The MD-80 is pleasant to fly on especially if you are seated in F Class or within the first 10 rows in Y Class, because it rises quickly and quietly. Nevertheless I enjoyed watching the videos of the new 737's at AA.
Ben Soriano
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LMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4215 times:
Quoting Skibum9 (Reply 4): Doesn't AA take delivery of their planes, already in their livery? In the cockpit video, it show the airplane in the unfinished hull, still green. Was this a stock video at the Boeing facility? Or does AA receive them this way, brush the aluminum themselves and paint the livery? The winglets were already prepared.
AA takes delivery of it's aircraft in full livery. The fotage of the green AA 737 was taken at the Renton plant. The video of the captain was taken at an AA facility.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16256 posts, RR: 52 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4194 times:
Quoting Francoflier (Reply 6): I find the magazine slot beneath the armrest to be pretty clever,
It must be hard to clean that though, all sorts of stuff might fall in there. Otherwise to echo the other poster I'm glad to see AA taking such pride in their fleet.
Divemaster08 From Cayman Islands, joined Jul 2008, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4047 times:
Looks very nice actually!
I hope that the roll out is quick across the whole fleet! The new seats look great and hopefully this may be a new sign that perhaps AA are finally moving forward with fleet renovation!
Do they plan on making these seats and features in the cabins of there whole fleet! 767s in the back could use a touch up!
And good to see that AA have finally moved into removing those DC connections and putting in the AC adapters!
Out of interest, does anybody know the timescale before we can expect this seating to be the standard on the 737s?
BigMac From Suriname, joined Nov 2003, 317 posts, RR: 11 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3950 times:
Quoting RICARIZA (Reply 5): I don't get the point of the videos.
Did you see the new F seat? Better recline without "disturbing the person behind." Now that has got to be something new and special in domestic F.
BTW, are these new F seats going to be put on the 757's as well?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 3927 times:
Quoting BigMac (Reply 15): Better recline without "disturbing the person behind." Now that has got to be something new and special in domestic F.
The seat cushion slides forward as you recline so you loose a couple inches of legroom when you are reclined however you can recline further. I like the laptop slot under the armrest....
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3626 times:
Sorry to bump, but does anyone happen to know who is the manufacturer of those F seats? I know the Y seats were made by Weber (as they look VERY similar to DL's slimline seats), however, not sure about F.
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DFW13L From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3616 times:
One other feature not mentioned is that with the 160 seats, they now have 4 flight attendants in the 737 rather than 3. So that should improve the service a bit.
My favorite part was the illustration of the seat recline. Looks like a big recline. And the laptop space is pretty cool too but looks very slender, so they might not all fit.
Commavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 10189 posts, RR: 62 Reply 19, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3547 times:
I'll be interested to give those new seats a try. They look awfully thin, but they do appear - at least from the video - to recline pretty deeply.
Quoting MHTripple7 (Reply 8): It's a shame they don't have PTV's. I wonder what kept them from doing so...
It's not worth it. Research has consistently shown time and again that customers simply don't value PTVs enough to pay for them. Much like food, legroom, and so many other common complaints, people want them and think they sound nice, but would not be willing to pay for what it would cost to install them. And remember, it's not just the installation - it's also the extra several hundred pounds of weight (and thus increased fuel burn) that you have to deal with on every flight, every day, for the life of the plane.
Some say that PTVs will soon become required, driven by competition (JetBlue, Delta, Continental, etc.). And that may well be true. But until it is an absolute competitive imperative, I don't see why AA would spend all the money it takes to install, maintain and carry around those things - especially since many people will never use them. As other posters in this thread and elsewhere have often suggested, nowadays iPods and laptops have replaced inflight entertainment of any kind for people. I know I definitely fall into that camp: I'd certainly rather watch something on my computer, or listen to my music, any day over the (usually) crappy programming the airline has on.
At a time like this: why spend the money that you don’t have to?
Quoting STT757 (Reply 13): It must be hard to clean that though, all sorts of stuff might fall in there.
That's the first thing I though, as well: man are those things going to get disgustingly dirty. I would never put my laptop down in that thing. Yuck.
Quoting Divemaster08 (Reply 14): Out of interest, does anybody know the timescale before we can expect this seating to be the standard on the 737s?
It's going to be a long time. The new 76 737s arriving between now and 2011 will all have this configuration. However, the 77 already in the fleet won't be getting these upgrades anytime soon. I suspect it won't happen for several years, at least. There is just no money for it, and the cabins on the existing 737s aren't all that bad (comparatively) as they are. They are a humongous upgrade (newer, cleaner, more modern) from the 757 cabins, and that fleet's upgrades have now been put on hold indefinitely because of what's going on with the economy.
QQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2198 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3511 times:
Quoting Commavia (Reply 19): However, the 77 already in the fleet won't be getting these upgrades anytime soon.
The first "old" 738 to be retrofitted is due out 1Q2010. The current schedule has the 77 original a/c complete with mods by the end of 1Q2011. Subject to change, of course!
The views expressed are mine alone and do not necessarily reflect my employer’s views.
Platinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 543 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3493 times:
Is it just me or does the interior remind you of the interior of an UA Airbus? I know there are some differences but looks so much like it.
SFOJFK From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 79 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3231 times:
Quoting QQflyboy (Reply 20): The first "old" 738 to be retrofitted is due out 1Q2010. The current schedule has the 77 original a/c complete with mods by the end of 1Q2011. Subject to change, of course!
Will the new mod up the seat count to 160 and adjust the rear galley size?
QQflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2198 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3190 times:
Quoting SFOJFK (Reply 23): Will the new mod up the seat count to 160 and adjust the rear galley size?
Yes. All the new features will be applied to the older a/c, ie, digital IFE, drop down LCDs, 160 main cabin seats, new bin doors.
The views expressed are mine alone and do not necessarily reflect my employer’s views.
25 RICARIZA: Maaan, is domestic travel in the US that bad that these are seeing now as great improvements? And don't get me wrong, I am a loyal AA flyer (domestic
26 Adam727: For those of you that have been on the new AA738 in FC where they hang the coats up is there room for the passenger seating right in front of the coat
27 Catdaddy63: I believe the cockpit video was filmed in the hanger at TUL. It looks like a 757 in the background to me. Also, according to AA.com the original 77 ai
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