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User currently offlinePagophilus From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 114 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3357 times:

Usually when I travel I check in at the airport, however recently I flew MEL-SYD on DJ and I used internet check-in to print my boarding pass, only having to drop off my bag at the airport. I found the experience to be what I would call "back to the good old days" of not having to show any ID for domestic flights. DJ (Virgin Blue) mentions on their website and during booking the necessity of having a photo-ID for check-in. However, I did not have to show any ID to anyone, from check-in to baggage drop to security check to boarding. Whilst I welcome such developments (a nice change to the security paranoia of the last decade), I'm sure the governments and authorities wouldn't welcome it if they knew how easy it is to get on and off a (domestic) plane these days.

Anyone else care to share their recent experiences with a lack of ID checking?

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9676 posts, RR: 31
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Here in Frankfurt we have to show our ID when dropping off baggage with a home printed boatrding pass.

With hand carry only, no ID requested on all Schengen flights, Outside Schengen, the ID is checked with the boarding pass. LH has new check-in kiosks which I haven't used yet since I do most my check-ins on the net, but it could be that an ID is required which is scanned by the machine. Not sure.

Schengen flights also have self boarding gates, where the barcode is read by the machine only, no LH staff involved.

Can't see anything unsecure about that.



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User currently offlineSflaflight From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3136 times:

Flew DJ domestic beginning of Mar and not once was my id checked. I had no bags (carry on only) and no one - i mean no one - checked my id. Coming from the northern world, that was soooo weird. loved it!

User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3097 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
LH has new check-in kiosks which I haven't used yet since I do most my check-ins on the net, but it could be that an ID is required which is scanned by the machine.

I used the new check-in terminals last month when flying to MAD via ZRH. At that time ZRH was still outside the Schengen area. No ID needed until I changed the plane in ZRH.

I once had some kind of an argument when checking in in LHR for a flight to FRA. The terminal somehow did not work so I had to use a check-in agent. She asked for my ID and could not explain why she needed one, but the the terminal wouldn't.

Can anyone here explain this to me?  Confused

Rob


User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3084 times:



Quoting Sflaflight (Reply 2):
Coming from the northern world, that was soooo weird.

This interesting!! Since I only fly domestic in the US or International with a passport, I have always had to show ID.

When you go through security in domestic OZ, what do they do? Do you have take off your shoes, empty your pockets, throw away your shampoo bottles and smile at the security personnel so you don't get stripped-searched or it more like here in the US back in the 1990s?


User currently offlineAFGMEL From Australia, joined Jul 2007, 745 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3074 times:



Quoting Eghansen (Reply 4):
When you go through security in domestic OZ, what do they do? Do you have take off your shoes, empty your pockets, throw away your shampoo bottles and smile at the security personnel so you don't get stripped-searched or it more like here in the US back in the 1990s?

We still have the rules but I have to say the security staff (generally speaking) don't behave like the gulag guards you get when flying into the US.



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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3025 times:



Quoting AFGMEL (Reply 5):
We still have the rules but I have to say the security staff (generally speaking) don't behave like the gulag guards you get when flying into the US.

I think that the security is very healthy for us in the US. Americans tend to be very arrogant and superior, so it is good for us to pass security and customs here and learn what it is like to feel small, insignificant and possessing no civil rights.  Smile

Gives us a greater appreciation of what life can be like in authoritarian regimes.


User currently offlineEljonno From Australia, joined Sep 2008, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2994 times:

I got all the way through Terminal 5 at LHR the other day without my ID being checked for a flight to EDI. The BA gate agent only gave my home printed boarding card a nominal glance and didn't even seem to bother with scanning it to see if I was the same person that they took such a nice picture of at the security checkpoint (as is the procedure at UK airports when domestic outgoing pax mingle with international)

The impression I've always had at LHR and LGW is that the security checks by both airline and airport staff, is a bit of a show - especially for domestic passengers.


User currently offline747m8te From Australia, joined Aug 2008, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Its interesting though, I have had 24 flights with DJ in the past year without the request or need to show I.D. yet when in the same time period when i've flown with TT, JQ and QF I get asked all the time to show I.D.

But is it really a security issue? The screening process is a bit more thorough then what it was years ago, the only issue is it would be hard to track people flying under fake names but still they get screened all the same. Which this particular Aussie comedy TV show took advantage of:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4NbDv3leGU&feature=channel_page



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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2977 times:



Quoting Eljonno (Reply 7):
The impression I've always had at LHR and LGW is that the security checks by both airline and airport staff, is a bit of a show - especially for domestic passengers.

I suspect that has more to do with the British view of security. I have noticed at London that if you are Pakistani, Indian, North African or Arab, your bags are often put through a complete search. Light skinned Europeans are waved through.


User currently offlineJoost From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 3181 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2917 times:



Quoting PanHAM (Reply 1):
LH has new check-in kiosks which I haven't used yet since I do most my check-ins on the net, but it could be that an ID is required which is scanned by the machine. Not sure.

When you have selected identification via your Miles&More card or the creditcard used during booking, no ID is required for the check-in kiosk.


User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

What's an ID supposed to prove anyway? That I can drive? How is that relevant? Why does it matter what my name is?


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User currently offlineGrozzy From Australia, joined Oct 2007, 156 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2880 times:

Before OLCI , we had to show ID when checking in. Theres absolutely nothing stopping someone mugging a passenger outside the terminal and traveling on their name. Maybe with all the security checkpoints preventing weapons on board, the authorities dont really care about identification.

User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5304 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2867 times:



Quoting Pagophilus (Thread starter):
I found the experience to be what I would call "back to the good old days" of not having to show any ID for domestic flights.



Quoting Pagophilus (Thread starter):
I'm sure the governments and authorities wouldn't welcome it if they knew how easy it is to get on and off a (domestic) plane these days.

I rarely get asked for ID, actualy the only time I can recall is with DJ and I was checking a bag.

QF have never asked.

I've heard of people flying as other names so they can get entry to the lounges etc due to no ID checks for Aussie domestic flights.


User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2816 times:



Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 3):
I once had some kind of an argument when checking in in LHR for a flight to FRA. The terminal somehow did not work so I had to use a check-in agent. She asked for my ID and could not explain why she needed one, but the the terminal wouldn't.

As LHR is not in the Schengen zone, your ID name and boarding pass name would have been crosschecked at the emigration counter anyway, so there's not much possibility to get airside with a wrong name.



WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlineJimbobjoe From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 661 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2681 times:

I'd like to say that this is the second or third time I've seen this issue come up (no ID checking on domestic Australia flights when check-in is online.)

Apparently it's not a big deal to them.


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