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Infomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 3442 times:

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I *URGENTLY* need a complete international list of ACMI carrier - both pax and freight. Google doesn't help! Anyone know of such a list? I only need the names (or a link) - the rest I can do.

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Antonovman From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

World Airways come to mind. They do pax and cargo flights

Deltabobo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 200 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3396 times:

How bout my carrier? Ryan International Airlines.

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Infomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Thanks for those - I already have both World airways and Ryan listed (plus about 30 others); but what I need is a complete list. That's the hard part!

OMA2FAI2SAV From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Phuket Air
TransGlobal Airways
Omni Air International
ABX Air
Atlantic Airways
Global Aero Logistics
Atlas Air
White Eagle Aviation
Transwede Airways
Maximus Air Cargo
Thomas Cook Airlines (Belgium)
ACT Airlines
ScotAirways
Jet Tran Air
Centurion Air Cargo

Some that I know of.

Jason in KBMI

Dogfighter2111 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2004, 1968 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

flyGlobespan do ACMI as well Smile

Dash500 From Portugal, joined May 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3270 times:

euroatlantic airways (www.euroatlantic.com)
white Airways (www.flywhite.eu)
Luzair (www.luzair.com)
Air Atlanta Icelandic (www.atlanta.is)

TriStar

Bwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 674 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 month 23 hours ago) and read 3208 times:

Astraeus (www.flyastraeus.com)
Hello Airlines (www.hello.ch)

VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6612 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 month 22 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

WDL Aviation:

http://www.wdl-group.de/index.php?menuid=1

Infomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

I would just like to say "Thank You" to those Forum members who took the trouble to reply. I have still to find the 'mother-lode' of information I was looking for - or perhaps my own database of wet-lease carriers will turn out to be that definitive source!
Please keep the suggestions coming.
Thanks.

BlueFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3119 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 month 12 hours ago) and read 3083 times:

Eagle Aviation
Europe Airpost
Kuzu
Orex
Southern Air
SwiftAir
TMA

Just how long the list is depends on how thorough and exhaustive you want to be with ACMI carriers. For instance, Air Sinai operates a flight to TLV on behalf of MS under an ACMI agreement, but the plane and crew are provided to Air Sinai by MS under another ACMI agreement...

[Edited 2009-04-19 03:26:32]

I've got $h*t to do

Wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4553 posts, RR: 17
Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 month 11 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

Kalitta Air
Kalitta Charters
Evergreen
Polar
Sky King
Pace
North American
Murray Aviation
Arrow
Sun Country
ATI
Capitol Cargo
USA Jet
Cargolux

Rom1 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 134 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2917 times:

Blue Line (France) is also doing ACMI

CHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 63
Reply 13, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2903 times:

Titan Airways in the UK - always a good bet. I know Monarch do ACMI stuff in the low-season as well.

What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???

Beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

With all the carriers mentioned so far only a couple are US and do passenger service. Now if you wanted to charter an aircraft or do an acmi with a European carrier. Can you use the aircraft domestically here in the US or only international.

VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6612 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2864 times:

Quoting Beeweel15 (Reply 14):
With all the carriers mentioned so far only a couple are US and do passenger service. Now if you wanted to charter an aircraft or do an acmi with a European carrier. Can you use the aircraft domestically here in the US or only international.

I do not know for certain. But unless the rules have changed since the late 70s the answer is llikely to be a resounding 'No'.

Back then Braniff used to 'charter' both AF and BA Concordes to fly IAD-DFW while the aircraft were on turnround at IAD. On arrival at IAD the aircraft had to be placed on the American register. The French or British registration and other documentation was assigned to a special storeage area in the WC at the rear of the plane and the aircraft had to be flown by Braniff crew (although to meet the requiurements of the insurance companies this was under the 'supervision' of French or British flight crew.

When the aircraft arrived back at IAD the whole circus had to be repeated in reverse.

The reverse is certainly an option as the rules in the UK allow a more flexible approach. So the first BAe 146 operated on BA routes were flown on domestic routes in Scotland by Presidentiual flight crew while still registered in the USA:

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and the only 727 to be operated on BA domestic routes was flown by ATA flight crew:

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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21448 posts, RR: 24
Reply 16, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

They went bankrupt and suspended service late last year, but another was UK carrier Flightline which operated several BAe 146s and MD-80s. I remember when they operated a few routes under contract for Swissair using the "Swissair Express" brand. Their BAe 146s were cramped and uncomfortable as they had 6-abreast seating, unlike the very roomy 5-abreast Crossair Avro RJs that are now part of the LX fleet.

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Infomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

Sorry guys, but you're drifting off-topic. I was looking for names of current cargo and / or pax wet-lease / ACMI rather than a nostalgia-fest, interesting though it undoubtedly is.

Keep the names coming Smile

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