Flycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 372 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6445 times:
EDI and PRG were mentioned to me in a meeting this week, but time will tell. I wish they would hurry up and make the announcement. EDI would be a good move seeing as EDI is now the premier Scotland airport in terms of pax.
Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 6202 times:
Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8): I today booked QR LHR-DOH-DXB-DOH-LHR for two weeks' time, flying 346, 333, 77W, 346. Total cost: £242.10. Very much looking forward to them.
Flyboy_se From Switzerland, joined Feb 2000, 745 posts, RR: 6 Reply 12, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5568 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 7): Indeed, very curious about this. I find it quite strange (and disappointing) that none of the Middle Eastern carriers service AMS
Alltho not pax service, but QR operates cargo flights to AMS
Fly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 964 posts, RR: 2 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5530 times:
Its about time that QR de-linked the DOH-KIX-ICN run, previous I believe it was being operated the other way around DOH-ICN-KIX? Not exactly sure... but this will definitely eat into EK's Europe/Africa-ICN traffic.
Weren't they operating with a 320 on the route? I wish they could open up CPH and OSL and HEL too! All three as 332's and put 320s on GOT and other secondary cities. lol
Shamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4039 posts, RR: 13 Reply 16, posted (4 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5337 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 7): I find it quite strange (and disappointing) that none of the Middle Eastern carriers service AMS.
I guess KL's strong ME network is too much a force to be reckoned with!
You will notice that most ME carriers have expanded to cities where there was limited or no ME service to begin with.
When QR open SYD and MEL, they will need feed from the UK and Ireland as the market is substantial.
EDI they would have all to themselves, so would be a good addition to the existing LON and MAN links. BHX for Indian subcontinent connections is obvious.
As for Ireland, DUB would be a nice addition to p*ss on EY's parade over here. Their daily AUH service has been a stellar performer. The room is arguably there for another carrier. Whether it happens in this economic environment remains to be seen. Long haul generally has been suffering, but EY have held up rather well.
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Kappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 19 Reply 17, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4753 times:
Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 12): Alltho not pax service, but QR operates cargo flights to AMS
Yes, I know, so does EK. But unfortunately I cannot book tickets on these flights
Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 16): I guess KL's strong ME network is too much a force to be reckoned with!
Guess so. Strange as AMS is one of the biggest airports in the world (at least top 15, they were number 9 for a while) and still no ME carriers. We had KU for a while, but they also pulled back, as did MANY carriers who served AMS (like SA and AC).
Jfr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 227 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 month 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4562 times:
Quoting Kappel (Reply 7):
I guess KL's strong ME network is too much a force to be reckoned with!
You will notice that most ME carriers have expanded to cities where there was limited or no ME service to begin with.[/quote]
Maybe it's the fact that KUL is evolving into a low cost fortress hub.......looking forward to AK's entry into the ME markets probably by 2010 means the yields will continue to decline, and competition will increase dramatically.
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4439 posts, RR: 43 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 2960 times:
Qatar Airways has revealed on the GDS major capacity changes to Far East Asia and UK network for this summer and the upcoming Winter 09-10 IATA season as the carrier continues onwards its expansion with the addition of more wide body planes integrated into its fleet. The main highlights are as follows:
LHR - capacity increased from Jan 1st to 10 weekly B 773ERs (2 class) + 13 weekly A 346s (3 class) + 4 weekly A 332s (3 class) + weekly A 333 (3 class). The B 773ERs will be used on QR 011/012 six times a week + 4 times a week on QR 017/018.
KUL - frequencies increased from 7 to 11 weekly nonstop i.e. 2 class A 333 four times per week + daily 2 class A 332 effective July.
DPS - frequencies increased from 4 weekly to daily flights using a 2 class A 333 routed via SIN instead of KUL with full 5th freedom rights on the SIN-DPS-SIN sector effective Jan 1st 2010.
JKT - will be a nonstop terminator service flown daily using a 2 class A 332 effective Jan 1st 2010.
ICN - new nonstop daily terminator flights using a 2 class A 333 three times per week + 2 class A 332 four times per week effective Feb 2010.
KIX - new nonstop daily terminator flights using a 2 class A 332 effective Feb 2010.
SIN - capacity reduced from daily B 773ERs to daily A 333s (2 class) effective Jan 1st 2010.
SGN - frequencies increased from 5 weekly to daily nonstop terminator flights using a 2 class A 332 effective Feb 1st 2010.
One cannot understand why QR's most loss making LHR bound flight that also sees the lowest load factors i.e. QR 017/18 would warrant a capacity increase from daily A 332s to 4 weekly B 773ERs + 3 weekly A 332s? Is it because they are hoping for some additional traffic coming in from SYD/MEL because even if that was the case it doesnt make sense as SYD-DOH + MEL-DOH is expected to connect with QR 011/012 which is rightfully so getting the capacity upgrade as well.
It is however pleasing to see DPS rerouted via SIN as KUL can hold its own fort. From KUL, QR will be competing against EK's increased flights as well which will number 17 per week from Feb 2010 onwards. Putting an A 333 to DPS on a daily basis will definitely help QR further consolidate its monopoly market share position from the GCC region + from EU/UK into this niche market which is in high demand between Oct-April due to climatic variations between the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3265 posts, RR: 22 Reply 22, posted (4 years 1 month 8 hours ago) and read 2741 times:
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21): KUL - frequencies increased from 7 to 11 weekly nonstop i.e. 2 class A 333 four times per week + daily 2 class A 332 effective July.
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21): DPS - frequencies increased from 4 weekly to daily flights using a 2 class A 333 routed via SIN instead of KUL with full 5th freedom rights on the SIN-DPS-SIN sector effective Jan 1st 2010.
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21): JKT - will be a nonstop terminator service flown daily using a 2 class A 332 effective Jan 1st 2010.
QatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1599 posts, RR: 7 Reply 24, posted (4 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2507 times:
Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21): One cannot understand why QR's most loss making LHR bound flight that also sees the lowest load factors i.e. QR 017/18 would warrant a capacity increase from daily A 332s to 4 weekly B 773ERs + 3 weekly A 332s? Is it because they are hoping for some additional traffic coming in from SYD/MEL because even if that was the case it doesnt make sense as SYD-DOH + MEL-DOH is expected to connect with QR 011/012 which is rightfully so getting the capacity upgrade as well.
I was surprised at this point also. The afternoon flight from Doha is usually empty and perhaps using the larger planes will bring in more passengers. If I would choose to fly LHR, I would certainly choose the 77W flight simply because its a 77W! However, it is sad that the 77W is only 2 class.
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25 Arsenal@LHR: I see your point, i flew QR 17 DOH-LHR in December and we had less than 30 passengers on our A333! Great flight though.
26 Gffgold: Hallelujiah! The only thing that is a hassle on CGK-DOH at present is the transit at SIN. QR has very competitive fares out of CGK right now and if t
27 Behramjee: I flew DOH-BAH last month in Y on an QR A 333 having 25 pax only on board...beat that My QR JFK-DOH flight had 37 out of 42 in J + 203 out of 293 in Y
28 Directorguy: What about India...any new frequencies/additions there? I take it that CAI will remain an A330 (-200 and -300) destination? I flew the route on 777s (
29 MH017: Believe it or not: LON-DXB or FRA-DXB via DOH on QR is far more cheaper than LHR-DOH or FRA-DOH Will fly DXB-DOH-IAH v.v. next month, to sample the 7
30 Planesarecool: It certainly is. I did the same route as Pe@rson (although to/from Gatwick as apposed to Heathrow) on 333, 77W, 346, 332 for £240 last month. If I w
32 Behramjee: QR have always charged a premium for pax heading to Doha. From USA/Canada they dont any have special fares to Doha like they have for all their other
33 QatarA340: That is indeed true. And it applies also for most other airlines, including Emirates. Fares from DXB-YYY are higher than from XXX-DXB-YYY.
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