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QR Changes To Asian Cities  
User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7383 times:

Effective Feb 10 QR will be making some changes on some Asian routes.

* QR will be delinking KIX and ICN and will be offering daily non stop flights to both of these places.

* QR will be replacing SIN-CGK with SIN - DPS daily; CGK will be a non stop flight seven times a week. DPS will therefore be a daily flight.

* KUL will be a terminating 11 weekly service.


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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7377 times:

Interesting developments... any idea yet which are the two new European points they plan to add this year?


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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3235 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 7367 times:

How competitive are QR's prices on the SIN-DPS sector? Compared to SQ on the one hand, and the assorted LCCs on the other.


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User currently offlineFlycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7283 times:

EDI and PRG were mentioned to me in a meeting this week, but time will tell. I wish they would hurry up and make the announcement. EDI would be a good move seeing as EDI is now the premier Scotland airport in terms of pax.

User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7230 times:



Quoting Ojas (Thread starter):
Effective Feb 10

??? What is the correct date?


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7223 times:

It is effective 1st Feb 2010


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User currently offlineOHLHD From Finland, joined Dec 2004, 3962 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7183 times:



Quoting Ojas (Reply 5):

Ah ok, I thought that it is a immediate change.  Smile


User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7083 times:



Quoting JoKeR (Reply 1):
ny idea yet which are the two new European points they plan to add this year?

Indeed, very curious about this. I find it quite strange (and disappointing) that none of the Middle Eastern carriers service AMS.



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7056 times:

Good to see these developments.

I today booked QR LHR-DOH-DXB-DOH-LHR for two weeks' time, flying 346, 333, 77W, 346. Total cost: £242.10. Very much looking forward to them.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 7040 times:



Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 8):
I today booked QR LHR-DOH-DXB-DOH-LHR for two weeks' time, flying 346, 333, 77W, 346. Total cost: £242.10. Very much looking forward to them.

Amazing itenerary!! Colour me jealous  Wink  bigthumbsup 



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User currently offlineKevin From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 1144 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6957 times:

Oh that's too bad. I loved flying Qatar on the short SIN - CGK in an A330. Oh well Bali it is than  Smile

User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4786 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6623 times:



Quoting Flycro (Reply 3):
EDI and PRG were mentioned to me in a meeting this week, but time will tell.

meeting concerning what?

EDI would help SYD/MEL bound flights and would be interesting to see how a daily 2 class A 332 would perform on this sector.

Though I hope they get BHX online asap to feed ATQ. PRG would be an A 320 route but I rather see them start TAS which has more potential.


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6406 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 7):
Indeed, very curious about this. I find it quite strange (and disappointing) that none of the Middle Eastern carriers service AMS

Alltho not pax service, but QR operates cargo flights to AMS



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User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6368 times:

Its about time that QR de-linked the DOH-KIX-ICN run, previous I believe it was being operated the other way around DOH-ICN-KIX? Not exactly sure... but this will definitely eat into EK's Europe/Africa-ICN traffic.

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3395 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6344 times:

Regarding QR, apparently ARN will increase to 5x weekle next winter. I only wish they could expend to CPH or OSL!

User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1045 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6254 times:



Quoting Someone83 (Reply 14):

Weren't they operating with a 320 on the route? I wish they could open up CPH and OSL and HEL too! All three as 332's and put 320s on GOT and other secondary cities. lol


User currently offlineShamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4176 posts, RR: 12
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6175 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 7):
I find it quite strange (and disappointing) that none of the Middle Eastern carriers service AMS.

I guess KL's strong ME network is too much a force to be reckoned with!

You will notice that most ME carriers have expanded to cities where there was limited or no ME service to begin with.

When QR open SYD and MEL, they will need feed from the UK and Ireland as the market is substantial.

EDI they would have all to themselves, so would be a good addition to the existing LON and MAN links. BHX for Indian subcontinent connections is obvious.

As for Ireland, DUB would be a nice addition to p*ss on EY's parade over here. Their daily AUH service has been a stellar performer. The room is arguably there for another carrier. Whether it happens in this economic environment remains to be seen. Long haul generally has been suffering, but EY have held up rather well.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 5591 times:



Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 12):
Alltho not pax service, but QR operates cargo flights to AMS

Yes, I know, so does EK. But unfortunately I cannot book tickets on these flights  Wink

Quoting Shamrock604 (Reply 16):
I guess KL's strong ME network is too much a force to be reckoned with!

Guess so. Strange as AMS is one of the biggest airports in the world (at least top 15, they were number 9 for a while) and still no ME carriers. We had KU for a while, but they also pulled back, as did MANY carriers who served AMS (like SA and AC).



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User currently offlineJfr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5400 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 7):
I guess KL's strong ME network is too much a force to be reckoned with!

You will notice that most ME carriers have expanded to cities where there was limited or no ME service to begin with.[/quote]


Maybe it's the fact that KUL is evolving into a low cost fortress hub.......looking forward to AK's entry into the ME markets probably by 2010 means the yields will continue to decline, and competition will increase dramatically.


User currently offlineFlyboy_se From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 812 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4443 times:



Quoting Kappel (Reply 17):
Yes, I know, so does EK. But unfortunately I cannot book tickets on these flights

Unless you ship yourself as cargo  Smile

Its a shame.Would love to see QR passenger service to AMS.



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4326 times:



Quoting Flyboy_se (Reply 19):
Its a shame.Would love to see QR passenger service to AMS.

Absolutely! I understand we won't be seeing EY as they fly to BRU, but I'd be happy to see QR fly to AMS.



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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4786 posts, RR: 43
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 3798 times:

Qatar Airways has revealed on the GDS major capacity changes to Far East Asia and UK network for this summer and the upcoming Winter 09-10 IATA season as the carrier continues onwards its expansion with the addition of more wide body planes integrated into its fleet. The main highlights are as follows:

LHR - capacity increased from Jan 1st to 10 weekly B 773ERs (2 class) + 13 weekly A 346s (3 class) + 4 weekly A 332s (3 class) + weekly A 333 (3 class). The B 773ERs will be used on QR 011/012 six times a week + 4 times a week on QR 017/018.

KUL - frequencies increased from 7 to 11 weekly nonstop i.e. 2 class A 333 four times per week + daily 2 class A 332 effective July.

DPS - frequencies increased from 4 weekly to daily flights using a 2 class A 333 routed via SIN instead of KUL with full 5th freedom rights on the SIN-DPS-SIN sector effective Jan 1st 2010.

JKT - will be a nonstop terminator service flown daily using a 2 class A 332 effective Jan 1st 2010.

ICN - new nonstop daily terminator flights using a 2 class A 333 three times per week + 2 class A 332 four times per week effective Feb 2010.

KIX - new nonstop daily terminator flights using a 2 class A 332 effective Feb 2010.

SIN - capacity reduced from daily B 773ERs to daily A 333s (2 class) effective Jan 1st 2010.

SGN - frequencies increased from 5 weekly to daily nonstop terminator flights using a 2 class A 332 effective Feb 1st 2010.

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Comments:

One cannot understand why QR's most loss making LHR bound flight that also sees the lowest load factors i.e. QR 017/18 would warrant a capacity increase from daily A 332s to 4 weekly B 773ERs + 3 weekly A 332s? Is it because they are hoping for some additional traffic coming in from SYD/MEL because even if that was the case it doesnt make sense as SYD-DOH + MEL-DOH is expected to connect with QR 011/012 which is rightfully so getting the capacity upgrade as well.

It is however pleasing to see DPS rerouted via SIN as KUL can hold its own fort. From KUL, QR will be competing against EK's increased flights as well which will number 17 per week from Feb 2010 onwards. Putting an A 333 to DPS on a daily basis will definitely help QR further consolidate its monopoly market share position from the GCC region + from EU/UK into this niche market which is in high demand between Oct-April due to climatic variations between the Northern and Southern Hemispheres.


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3579 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21):
KUL - frequencies increased from 7 to 11 weekly nonstop i.e. 2 class A 333 four times per week + daily 2 class A 332 effective July.



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21):
DPS - frequencies increased from 4 weekly to daily flights using a 2 class A 333 routed via SIN instead of KUL with full 5th freedom rights on the SIN-DPS-SIN sector effective Jan 1st 2010.



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21):
JKT - will be a nonstop terminator service flown daily using a 2 class A 332 effective Jan 1st 2010.

Do you have proposed schedules for the above?


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 3573 times:

Refer the website they have uploaded it over there.


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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1851 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3345 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 21):
One cannot understand why QR's most loss making LHR bound flight that also sees the lowest load factors i.e. QR 017/18 would warrant a capacity increase from daily A 332s to 4 weekly B 773ERs + 3 weekly A 332s? Is it because they are hoping for some additional traffic coming in from SYD/MEL because even if that was the case it doesnt make sense as SYD-DOH + MEL-DOH is expected to connect with QR 011/012 which is rightfully so getting the capacity upgrade as well.

I was surprised at this point also. The afternoon flight from Doha is usually empty and perhaps using the larger planes will bring in more passengers. If I would choose to fly LHR, I would certainly choose the 77W flight simply because its a 77W! However, it is sad that the 77W is only 2 class.



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25 Arsenal@LHR : I see your point, i flew QR 17 DOH-LHR in December and we had less than 30 passengers on our A333! Great flight though.
26 Gffgold : Hallelujiah! The only thing that is a hassle on CGK-DOH at present is the transit at SIN. QR has very competitive fares out of CGK right now and if t
27 Behramjee : I flew DOH-BAH last month in Y on an QR A 333 having 25 pax only on board...beat that My QR JFK-DOH flight had 37 out of 42 in J + 203 out of 293 in Y
28 Directorguy : What about India...any new frequencies/additions there? I take it that CAI will remain an A330 (-200 and -300) destination? I flew the route on 777s (
29 MH017 : Believe it or not: LON-DXB or FRA-DXB via DOH on QR is far more cheaper than LHR-DOH or FRA-DOH Will fly DXB-DOH-IAH v.v. next month, to sample the 7
30 Planesarecool : It certainly is. I did the same route as Pe@rson (although to/from Gatwick as apposed to Heathrow) on 333, 77W, 346, 332 for £240 last month. If I w
31 Pe@rson : Yes, I would have expected that.
32 Behramjee : QR have always charged a premium for pax heading to Doha. From USA/Canada they dont any have special fares to Doha like they have for all their other
33 QatarA340 : That is indeed true. And it applies also for most other airlines, including Emirates. Fares from DXB-YYY are higher than from XXX-DXB-YYY.
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