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User currently offlineZRB2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1948 times:

My wife is allergic to nuts and I have to commend United/United Express for being a "nut free" airline. The snack mix they pass out is just fine. I flew Southwest (alone)a couple times in the past 6 months and I was amazed at the number of peanuts left behind on seats and between seats in the crevices. I could never fly on that airline with her! Ingesting even a peanut fragment by accident is likely fatal for this allergy and just touching them gives her numbness and hives. I wish more airlines were nut free. Does anyone know of other airlines that do not serve nuts at all? It'a a horrible allergy for many people, especially kids...maybe they should just do away with them on planes. Just want to see if anyone in this forum has any feedback on this subject....thanks!

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User currently offlineWestern737 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Well, I love to eat the peanuts or any nuts and I hate pretzels which more airliners are offering nowday. I would feel that all airliners should provide several different options of snacks at everybody's convienence. Southwest is a airline that hop around and dont have time for staff to clean it up every stop. It is the passengers who cause some inconvenience to next passengers taking seats. Airlines cant always have to please everybody and we just need to be prepared for something unexpected inconvienence on flights.

nut-free airline? Oh please dont!  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineFlybulldog From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1886 times:

I hate it when I travel SW and someone has a peanut allergy. The whole plane gets stuck with Raisins.

User currently offlineWN boy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1880 times:

Under Title III of the Americans with Disabilities Act (as interpreted by the United States Department of Justice), airlines must provide peanut-free flights if a person with an allergy such as your wife is aboard. I know for a fact Southwest complies with this regulation as I have been aboard a number of such flights. All you have to do is mention that your wife has a peanut allergy when you make your reservation and ask that something else be served and there will be no peanuts on the flight that you are on. In addition, because Southwest does not replenish the provisioning at every stop, it is very likely that the aircraft serving your flight will not have served peanuts at all that day. Consequently, you should be able to enjoy a completely "peanut-free" environment. Hope this helps.

User currently offlinePHLFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1871 times:

Do they restrict people from bringing their own peanuts on board? What about peanut butter and jelly sandwiches? Is it only peanuts or is it any peanut products?

User currently offlineZRB2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1872 times:

WN boy- Thanks for the info!

Flybulldog- dude, people can die within minutes from this allergy. I think you can deal with pretzels, raisins and/or sesame crunchies for a flight segment now and then. Don't be so selfish.


User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1867 times:

ZRB2:

Hey, I know exactly what you're going through. My 2 year-old daughter also has a potentially fatal peanut allergy, so we too have to be really careful when we're on a plane. You might want to check out the 'airline' forum on the peanut allergy website, they list what airlines are 'peanut-free'. http://www.peanutallergy.com/bbpage.htm

Flybulldog: You insensitive little lout. Yes, I'm sure you hate it when you don't have your precious little peanuts when you're on board a peanut free SWA flight, but I'm sure the person who has a peanut allergy hates to DIE, much less get hives, shortness of breath, swollen tongue, etc.

PHLFlyer: If you're on a 'peanut-free' flight, they will ask all of the passengers to PLEASE not bring on board any peanuts or peanut products. Yes, it's for any peanut products, including PB&J sandwiches. Some people are so sensitive to peanuts that if they breathe 'peanut dust' or even smell peanuts they'll break out or worse.

Everybody: Please be sensitive to those out there who have peanut/nut allergies. One day someone you know could be in there shoes!


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1857 times:

Has anyone died of a peanut allergy from airlines serving nuts? I don't think so. This sounds very extreme! How can touching a peanut cause someone to die? Let alone breathing peanut 'dust.' What is peanut dust?

Anything can be 'potentially' fatal...even drinking too much water.

Why didn't we hear of this 15 years ago?

Make mine dry roasted!


User currently offlineLax2000 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1855 times:

I would be happy to give up some stupid peanuts to make the life easier of a person suffering from a fatal peanut allergy!!!!Some of you guys aren't very compassionate and I hope you never have to suffer from an illness or allergy that can radically change your life and make some simple things that we take for granted difficult for you.

Adam


User currently offlineFlybulldog From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 368 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

I stand corrected. I didn't realize it was so fatal.

User currently offlineBraniff727 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 686 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

Northwest Airlines also no longer serves peanuts in the main cabin. They have been replaced by Snyders of Hannover Pretzels.


Climbing
User currently offlineWestern737 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1839 times:

I didnt realized there are indeed fatal allergies with nuts and I never heard of that before. By the way, was it common cases?

As now I realized why more airlines are using *yuck* pretzels. It would be nice if they are using graham crackers or any crackers with cheese instead? Are those can also be fatal allergies, too?


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1828 times:

I did four short hops in the last two weeks and got peanuts on every sector...on WN, TW, and AA.

So clearly this can't be too much of an issue.



User currently offlineZRB2 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 895 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

I didn't really think much of this either until I married someone who has this condition. It's a pretty big deal to the few hundred thousand people (maybe more?) who are affected. It's common for airline personnel to know about this allergy so it just seems to make more sense to just do away with the nuts and serve cookies, chips, cheese crunchies...whatever!! What airline needs to be bothered with a possible emergency landing over a nut?

The Moncton Times and Transcript
1st article: Thursday, August 31, 2000
Jet makes emergency landing in Moncton
Four tires blow out as U.S. airliner lands for medical emergency
ALAN COCHRANE
Times & Transcript Staff
American Airlines passengers en route from Chicago to England had an unscheduled stopover in Moncton yesterday following a medical emergency.
Mike Walley, a spokesman for the Moncton Airport, said the American Airlines Boeing 767 with 210 people on board made an unscheduled landing at approximately midnight Tuesday after one of the passengers suffered an allergic reaction to peanuts. Following the landing, the brakes overheated, which blew a couple of tires. The sick passenger was taken to hospital. The remaining passengers were put in hotels overnight.
The Boeing 767, Series 323, has a capacity of 204 passengers in three classes.
Walley said it is not uncommon for overheated brakes to cause tires to blow. A replacement plane was sent from the United States, along with an American Airlines maintenance crew.
Walley said major airlines have mobile maintenance crews on standby for such situations because any work must be carried out by technicians certified to a proper level. Regulations require the technicians to approve any repairs and declare the plane airworthy before allowing it to fly.
The replacement plane arrived in Moncton yesterday and the passengers and crew continued their trip.


User currently offlineAKelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Greg:

How ignorant can you get? Before making a comment as stupid as the one you just made "Has anyone died of a peanut allergy from airlines serving nuts? I don't think so.", do a little research. Check out the Peanut Allergy website http://www.peanutallergy.com/bbpage.htm before you say another word... it'll really open your eyes.

Personally I don't know of any incidents in which a person who served peanuts on an airplane died, but people the world over have died from ingesting peanuts, that's a fact. People who have died from being allergic to peanuts have suffered what's called anaphylactic shock (which I've put the definition below). The problem with being on an airplane is that the environment is closed, and of course you're 30,000-40,000 feet in the air. When one is on the ground and gets an allergic reaction, they need to get to the hospital right away. Getting to a hospital when you're in the air is of course very unlikely.

People have varying sensitivity levels to peanuts/nuts whatever. Usually it's divided into ingestion, the touch, or breathing of the food allergen. For some people their peanut allergy is so bad that if they touch a peanut or yes, breathe 'peanut dust', they will have a reaction. You asked what that was - have you ever seen the crumbs at the bottom of a jar of peanuts or a box of cereal? A lot of those particles are so small they can get in the air very easily.


definition of anaphylactic shock (n-f-lktk shk)
n.

A sudden, severe allergic reaction characterized by a sharp drop in blood pressure, urticaria, and breathing difficulties that is caused by ingestion of an allergic food or the injection of a foreign substance, such as a drug or bee venom, into the body after a preliminary or sensitizing ingestion or injection. The reaction may be fatal if emergency treatment, including the administration of epinephrine injections, is not given immediately. Also called anaphylaxis.


User currently offlineLuckySevens From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 1802 times:

People who are truly allergic to nuts are not usually allergic to peanuts because the peanut is not a member of the nut family. The peanut is a member of the legume (Pea, Bean) family.
When people say they are allergic to nuts, they are usually allergic to peanuts in particular. Not to nuts (walnuts, etc.) in general. A reaction may occur if the nuts are mixed with peanut residue (from the processing), though it is possible to be allergic to both.
As with any food allergy, consult your doctor.


P.S.
This is not meant as a detracting statement, just clarifying some misconceptions.


P.P.S.
I am not detracting from the severity of any food allergy, they are all very real and very serious.


User currently offlineAmerica West From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1790 times:

I don't mind eating peanuts on flights. But I prefer pretzels. The mustard pretzels that some of the airlines serve are really good.

User currently offlineOz777 From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 521 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (13 years 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1788 times:

Air New Zealand have also changed their policy and no longer have the allergy type nuts on board

OZ777


User currently offlineAkelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

LuckySevens:

You bring up a very good point. Just because something (like say a chocolate bar) isn't a peanut or contains peanuts, there's a good chance it might be made in a factory that also makes peanut products. That's why we check labels for all the food we buy.

As for classifying nuts, yep, there are actually two families of nuts: Tree nuts are Walnuts, almonds, etc. Hazelnuts and pistachios are in another 'nut' family (don't know the name). As you said, peanuts are technically not a 'nut', like you said, they are legumes.

My daughter is allergic to both tree nuts and peanuts, but her reaction to tree nuts are alot less severe then to peanuts. Either way, we avoid all nuts in general.


America West:

Yeah, I love those mustard pretzels also!


User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1758 times:

I think this whole peanut allergy thing is grossly over inflated. I still can't find a single example of 'peanut dust death'.

Can't these folks just not eat them?



User currently offlineContrails From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 1829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (13 years 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1749 times:

I agree with Greg. This whole peanut thing is out of control. The idea of the U.S. government regulating peanut consumption on airliners is the pinnacle of stupidity.




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User currently offlineVngd4me From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 238 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Geez a few of you are so immature and insensitive to the needs of others!!  Angry

Think of others & stop being so selfish, if you had to live with this allergy I'm sure you wouldn't be so rude. Are in-flight peanuts the reason you fly, is it ambience or something? Can't you just eat some peanuts when you get home & live with the pretzels or other snack?

I do not have a family connection to this allergy but do have an aquaintance with the allergy. I work for an airline (Vanguard) which has decided to no longer serve peanuts on their flights due to the nature of the allergy & its seriousness. NJ usually gets one or more calls a week asking for peanut free flights, since NJ no longer serves peanuts, this isn't a problem.


User currently offlineTekelbery From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1732 times:

If a FA was giving someone a hard time about peanuts, I probably would have the whole plane going to the FAs saying that we all have peanut allergies.LOL..i dont want to witness a death or an injury on a flight that i go on

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29698 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (13 years 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1732 times:

I don't want to detract from anybody who actually has this allergy because it can be fatal.

But this whole peanut thing is starting to reek of the Lactose Intolerant thing a few years back. A whole lot of people who wheren't intolerant claiming that they where because it was the "Sheik" thing to be at the time.

That does detract from the people who suffer from it.



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