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Tail Identification.....It's A What?  
User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6554 times:

Did a search (albeit a breif one) on topics and I trust that this is the right forum.

I was admiring the recent picture of the boeing livereied Alaskan 737NG on the top viewed earlier this morning and gave a little chuckle. Earlier in my aviation made years, i always wondered why Alaskan had a picture of an old woman on the tail. For the life of me, I thought the men and women of Alaskan had a brain freeze when designing the tail. It wasnt until much later I was struck by the very obvious observation that it was an Eskimo!

Am I the only one to have suffered this identification mishap? Is there other tails out there that would cause, interpretation wise, this kind of confusion? One that comes to mind is the LOT crane.

Other examples would be great to hear.

Cheers

VHECA

[Edited 2009-04-19 19:51:19]


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User currently offlineLuv2cattlecall From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 1650 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6486 times:
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Yep, I wasn't quite sure why Abe Lincoln's mom was on the tail of an aircraft either! The first time I heard otherwise was during news coverage of that Alaska flight that plunged because of the jack screw problem.


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8603 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6376 times:
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to be honest the orchid on the fin of TG aircraft has never looked particularly orchid-like to me , and I knew someone who once commented that if you rotated it 90 degrees anti-clockwise ( assuming that you are looking at the left hand side of the plane ) that it looks a lot like "cold weather shrinkage" ..... then again , since the word for orchid apparently is derived from a word for testicle they might not be too far off


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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5915 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6206 times:

Uh, for the record, allow me to correct and clarify something...
...as a resident of the Great State of Alaska, allow me to point out that it is a MAN on the tail of the AS birds. His name is Chester. He worked for Alaska Airlines (no "N" in Alaska) for many decades before retiring, as a gate agent in a remote village, IIRC.
At least, that's the story we've been told.

And nowadays, Chester gets to wear a Lei on ETOPS capable aircraft!


User currently offlineEmptyarm From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6192 times:

I was quite disappointed when I discovered that Pepsi didn't own Korean Air Big grin

User currently offlineBraybuddy From India, joined Aug 2004, 5795 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6150 times:



Quoting VHECA (Thread starter):
i always wondered why Alaskan had a picture of an old woman on the tail.

I thought the same when I saw it first. It was years before I realised what it was an eskimo, and a man to boot.

And why do I keep thinking of corn flakes when I see a Sri Lankan aircraft?


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User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6106 times:



Quoting Braybuddy (Reply 5):
And why do I keep thinking of corn flakes when I see a Sri Lankan aircraft?

The same happened to me whenever I saw a Yemenia aircraft -

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I had to think about Sarotti: http://www.lokodex.de/daten/schilder...el/sarotti_schokolade-122x59cm.jpg
(nowadays they look different)


User currently offlineLHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6093 times:



Quoting N14AZ (Reply 6):

I see the tail of that and think Dan Air  Smile


User currently offlineN14AZ From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2793 posts, RR: 25
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6052 times:



Quoting LHR380 (Reply 7):
I see the tail of that and think Dan Air

 thumbsup  This was usually my second thought - 1.) chocolate* 2.) Dan Air

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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4898 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

It's not necessarily on the tail, but I couldn't figure out what Asiana's logo was supposed to be.

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I eventually concluded it's a Korean dancer.

Northwest's Bowling Shoe logo made no sense to me before I saw the explanation in one of the kiddie booklets F/As used to give out to kids.

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5771 times:



Quoting VHECA (Thread starter):
Alaskan

Alaska, dude....Alaska! There is no Alaskan Airlines.



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User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5630 times:



Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 3):



Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 10):

Thank you peoples. No "n" in Alaska Airlines, my apologies. And thankyou AA737-823 with your story of Chester....Now that I hear this explanation, I do recall the name being mentioned before in a nother thread way back when!

I thought Sri Lankan logo is a bird? Or is it a flower? And the Yemenia is definately a Dan-Air rip-off!

The Northwest Grey (gray) is a great example of a bowling shoe! I laughed when I read this. Never saw it like this until now!

And sure, not necessarily the Tail, but the logo also.

Is Thomsonfly and it's affiliate airlines a T shaped like a smile?

Thanks all again,

VHECA



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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6428 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5615 times:



Quoting VHECA (Reply 11):
Thank you peoples. No "n" in Alaska Airlines, my apologies.

Should I go hop my flight to Sydney now on "Quantas"?  mischievous 

Anyone ever wondered in the heck the little doohicky on MH's tails are:


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User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5596 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 12):
Anyone ever wondered in the heck the little doohicky on MH's tails are:

Always thought those were supposed to be sparrows or something.


User currently offlineFlood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1382 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

Btw, a bit off topic but I've always wondered where the "Kris" came from in SQ?

User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 15, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5560 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 12):
Anyone ever wondered in the heck the little doohicky on MH's tails are:

It's a kite - see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wau_bulan

V/F



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2532 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5501 times:

I used Fedex for over 5 years before the arrow was pointed out to me - when you know its there, its the first thing that jumps out at you when you see their logo.


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User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5482 times:



Quoting KELPkid (Reply 12):
Should I go hop my flight to Sydney now on "Quantas"?

You funny person, KELPkid!

Yep, living in Malaysia, and actually seeing the kites flying, it is definatly a kite. Very majestic flyers too.

In regrds to the "kris" in SQ, the ceremonial, and former weapon of choice of the indiginous Malay, is a small dagger with an often curved blade. A mean piece of kit, it is more common in ceramonial events.

Cheers

VHECA



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User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5476 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 16):
I used Fedex for over 5 years before the arrow was pointed out to me - when you know its there, its the first thing that jumps out at you when you see their logo.

Nice One! Haa!

Cheers

VHECA



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 19, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5468 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 16):
I used Fedex for over 5 years before the arrow was pointed out to me - when you know its there, its the first thing that jumps out at you when you see their logo.

After having the FedEx one pointed out to me, a similar arrow jumped out at me from the JetStar logo. I don't know if it was a deliberate design like the FedEx one, or just a coincidence...


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V/F



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User currently offlineVHECA From Australia, joined May 2007, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5397 times:

Another one that has sparked some debate/discussion was the new AirBerlin logo.

I always thought it represented a commuter in a window reading a newspaper or something like that.

Another that I wouldn't mind some sort of explanation/theory of.

VriginFlyer, I like the Jetstar pick up.

Cheers

VHECA



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User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5365 times:



Quoting VHECA (Thread starter):
Am I the only one to have suffered this identification mishap?

 Big grin Sorry.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 16):
I used Fedex for over 5 years before the arrow was pointed out to me - when you know its there, its the first thing that jumps out at you when you see their logo.

I forgot about that one!



Student - KELN
User currently offlineCopter808 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5195 times:

OK, after spending a LONG time trying to locate the "arrow" in the FedEx logo, now all I can see are arrows! Once you know where to look it becomes pretty obvious.

For those who are a bit slow like me, the "arrow" is formed by the bottom two prongs of the "F" and the left part of the "X".


User currently offlineJensOBreuer From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5172 times:



Quoting Copter808 (Reply 22):
OK, after spending a LONG time trying to locate the "arrow" in the FedEx logo, now all I can see are arrows!

Your are not the only victim of this disease =) I had never seen this arrow - and I think I would have never seen it in future ...


User currently offlineKaboom360 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2009, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5065 times:



Quoting VHECA (Reply 11):
Is Thomsonfly and it's affiliate airlines a T shaped like a smile?

this is a representation of TUI, the parent company of Thomson(fly) and its associated companies. Some people, myself included, sometimes view it as a stylized face, with one eye winking.

A funny fact from my travel agent wife, is that TUI in japanese means 'fart'

Tony


25 T5towbar : I've seen one of those planes at EWR. I was trying to figure out why the red lei was around the Eskimo's neck. Thanks for clearing that one up. And f
26 BMI727 : Well, if you didn't know better you'd have no idea that the BA "Speedmarque" used to be a bird. Also, the old HA logo didn't look like a woman from a
27 RB211TriStar : This discussion reminds me of the "Batman" symbol... I never noticed the FedEx arrow either. Fascinating!
28 LH526 : And the deisgners of the new logo totally neglected this feature ... years and years of education and millions of bucks for a rebrand and some oh-so-
29 CrimsonNL : Only recently I found out that the arrow in NW's logo actually points to the NW! I always considered it as just an arrow. The FR logo, I never figured
30 LVHGEL : Pray, explain to the ignorant in me. Thanks
31 FX1816 : Not to be nit picky but it is actually in between the "E" and the "X". FX1816
32 Alaska737 : From what I have heard, Chester Sevak was an Alaskan Native who lived in Kotzebue. He loved to promote tourism in Alaska, he and his wife would put t
33 AirframeAS : I heard he was in Nome, Alaska... not Kotzbue.... He had no affiliation with AS.
34 Aerdingus : oh me god so true
35 Flaps : Thank you. All these years I thought that the MH logo was some type of fish.
36 Viscount724 : As a sidenote, the term "Eskimo" is considered offensive and derogatory in Canada and hasn't been used widely for quite a few years. I think that's a
37 Alaska737 : I had always heard OTZ but it very well could be OME Someone once told me he worked part time for Wien, again this isnt confirmed. Anytime I am refer
38 Rsg85 : I always believed the qf logo was a kangaroo, but the recent change proved me wrong, we now know its just a very expensive scribble and looks nothing
39 Jeffbart33 : I thought the same. Thanks for the clarification. This is quite the educational thread. Thanks, Jeff
40 Zonks : SQ's logo has never really struck me as being much of a bird. I don't know I'm alone but I always look at it from left to right and never from right t
41 NWADC9 : Triangle - Points northwest N - N N and the triangle - W
42 Copter808 : Not nit picky at all. I didn't notice the typo until I reread it after I got home tonight! I would STILL be trying to figure it out if I had followed
43 VHECA : I concur Sir. I thought there would be more examples, but indeed very informative and i am glad I asked the question. I always saw it as being a bird
44 Post contains images FLY2HMO : Back when I was a youngling I thought of the MX logo as being nothing more than an eagle with feathers, and eventually it dawned on me that the feathe
45 VHECA : I thought it was some Aztec-like bird! I didnt even pick up on the "M"! Geez, work must have that affect on my brain cells! Thanks for the input! Che
46 Kiwiandrew : thanks for the explanation , but what was the connection between the old logo and a bowling shoe ?
47 PA101 : Hey guys, HELP ME PLEASE. I still can't see the arrow...
48 Post contains links and images Vhqpa : It took me a while to find it but look at the picture on reply 16 and focus on the lower half of the E and the X it's a small white arrow enclosed by
49 PA101 : Aah - thank you very much! I finally found it... I was already doubting about my seeing-abilties...
50 Copter808 : Try going to the "large" picture. It's much easier to see that way.
51 PA101 : Hehe... I tried it was my collegues in my office - I printed out the picture and had them take a look at it. Noone could find it, until I pointed it
52 Virginblue4 : Wow! i thought i was being stupid or something becuase i couldnt see it, but yes now i can! Fasinating! Jordan
53 Viscount724 : Bowling shoes, at least those used in North America, have traditionally come in similar combinations of colors. They seem to be a little more conserv
54 VHECA : After reading all of these explanations and different opinions and the like, I now have a different view of airline tails. I now see the TUI in the Ta
55 Post contains links and images LHR777 : It's a stylized Peacock, or Bird of Paradise. Here's the old logo, which was more recognisable as a Peacock - View Large View MediumPhoto © Alai
56 Fn1001 : LOT and Tarom have quite similar logos and both look like broken windows.
57 GlobeEx : The "M" and the "bird" form a stylized runways as seen on approache!
58 Cbphoto : WOW...amazing! I bet I could make a lot of money off of that one....I bet you $5 you can't find an arrow on the fedex plane!!! Another good one, neve
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