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Being Panhandled At ORD.  
User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8852 posts, RR: 10
Posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 4174 times:

The last time I flew to Chicago, I was panhandled by a young boy after I left the airplane. I was waiting outside the ladies room for my wife right in the gate area. He was about ten- twelve years old. He was pushing a small roll type carry-on. This was inside the security area. Has anyone else had this experiance at O"Hare, or any US airport? Is there less security there in that area? I have felt bad for not giving him some money, I was shocked and shoo'ed him away.


It is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.
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User currently offlineFlylot From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3886 times:

If he had a carry-on, he probably was a passenger.

when I was a kid I used to ask strangers for money all the time just to see if they would give it to me. I got this one woman to give me 5 dollars. When I refused she grabbed my hands and said "Take it, poor child."

I also used to the dollar on a string trick.

I've heard stories about people staying overnight in Sheremetyevo and having to sleep next to the homeless.



"In Soviet Russia, airplane flies on you"
User currently offlineFlyguy41 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

In my 10 plus years of flying out of ORD, I've never seen anything like this inside security. The EL station is another matter, but that is another story....

When was this? I'm sure the kid was flying and maybe just acting like a kid. Te security checkpoints close between certain hours and unless they have rolled out Camp Ohare, they check all the aress, so I'm sure he is not a homeless kid.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3612 times:

The only time I saw panhandling INSIDE the secure area of an airport was pre-9/11/01.

Back in August of 2000 at PHL (NW's section of Terminal E), one guy was handing out one of those business-card-sized sign language alphabet guides for a buck. He approached one lady seated nearby me and when he did his schpeel (sp.); she responded back in sign language and he walked away very fast from that area. I later found out that this woman has done sign language for 15 years and that the cards the guy was selling was a scam.



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineFloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3587 times:

Never have had it inside security. However, have been to FLL a few times and there are always homeless folks right outside the front door of each of the terminals asking for money.


Good goes around!
User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3516 times:

At first, I thought you meant panhandled by United or American, in a less than literal sense of course!!!

Seriously, I'd have to think that this is either a security oversight or a passenger. These days, neither would surprise me but I'd have to think that if he somehow circumvented security he (or his family) could wind up in trouble.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3283 times:

I've been panhandled at ORD, but pre-9/11. I was lying across 2 seats, half asleep, and someone tossed an ink pen onto my chest. There was a note attached saying that he was selling them. A few minutes later he came back around picking the pens up from everyone. On the one hand, I was ticked that he woke me up, but on the other hand I did really need a pen and it was (allegedly) for a good cause. So he got a couple bucks off of me.

User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8416 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3241 times:

It would not take a super smart kid to get inside the perimeter. It is easy to do, but maybe it takes a child's perspective to see how easy it really is. Especially at a big place like ORD...

User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8852 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3176 times:



Quoting Flyguy41 (Reply 2):
When was this? I'm sure the kid was flying and maybe just acting like a kid. Te security checkpoints close between certain hours and unless they have rolled out Camp Ohare, they check all the aress, so I'm sure he is not a homeless kid.

It was last October, during the day, I arrived in Chicago about 10 AM.



It is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.
User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8852 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3162 times:



Quoting Richierich (Reply 5):
Seriously, I'd have to think that this is either a security oversight or a passenger. These days, neither would surprise me but I'd have to think that if he somehow circumvented security he (or his family) could wind up in trouble.

I do think he was a passenger myself, he was clean cut and had a bag, I am usually a soft touch, he caught me off guard and I reacted the wrong way it seems now. I wish I had given him some money.



It is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.
User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8852 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3140 times:



Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):
It would not take a super smart kid to get inside the perimeter. It is easy to do, but maybe it takes a child's perspective to see how easy it really is. Especially at a big place like ORD...

It has bugged me on and off ever since it happened, that is why I finally asked if anyone else has had the experiance.



It is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.
User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2983 times:



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 10):
It has bugged me on and off ever since it happened, that is why I finally asked if anyone else has had the experiance

I would not let it bother you too much. We have pan handling here in Milwaukee and I seen they guy near my employer and he stopped me and asked if I had $3.00 to give him for gas, later that morning I seen the same guy on the other side of town doing the same thing. When I quizzed him on this he promptly left.


My son when we were in London pulled his hood from his sweatshirt up and sat in the door of a restraunt trying to look like he was homeless and get a hand out. It was funny at first until the waitress gave him something, which I promptly went over and paid for it. They found it quite funny as well. Not bad for a 12 year old.

Mark in MKE



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21478 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2933 times:



Quoting Flighty (Reply 7):
It would not take a super smart kid to get inside the perimeter. It is easy to do, but maybe it takes a child's perspective to see how easy it really is. Especially at a big place like ORD...

It takes a child for it to be easy. Something tells me that me, a 6'+ 220+ guy grabbing onto the leg of a woman while sneaking through security wouldn't go over as well as when a kid does it...



Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
User currently offline777STL From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3576 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

LAX has all types of panhandlers - most working under the guise of a religious organization.


PHX based
User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2665 times:



Quoting 777STL (Reply 13):
LAX has all types of panhandlers - most working under the guise of a religious organization.

On the SECURE side of the airport (which is the understood premise of thread) as well???



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2633 times:



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 3):
Back in August of 2000 at PHL (NW's section of Terminal E), one guy was handing out one of those business-card-sized sign language alphabet guides for a buck. He approached one lady seated nearby me and when he did his schpeel (sp.); she responded back in sign language and he walked away very fast from that area. I later found out that this woman has done sign language for 15 years and that the cards the guy was selling was a scam.

Prior to 9/11 I would see those folks along with the inner city kids selling chocolate bars for "fund raisers", that's one of the good things from the tighter screening.

Regarding the sign language folks, I was siting in a mall food court back near me in '99 or 2000 when a Woman came up to me and handed me a card that read along the lines of "hi don't stop smilling, I'm deaf and if you buy this trinket you will help me get training etc.."

No more than a week or two later I was sitting in the food court at Terminal C at EWR, and I saw the same Woman going from person to person with the same deal. She got around, must of hit every public place in the State.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4242 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2603 times:



Quoting WarRI1 (Reply 9):
I do think he was a passenger myself, he was clean cut and had a bag, I am usually a soft touch, he caught me off guard and I reacted the wrong way it seems now. I wish I had given him some money.

I also have a very soft heart when it comes to panhandlers, but I think you did the correct thing. Giving money just means it'll continue and perhaps spread. It's not exactly a desirable trait even if it was just a kid looking to cop a free buck or two.

I know this is not similar to the ORD case, but I have bought food for San Francisco panhandlers before. I won't give them cash but a nice, solid meal. At least I know my money is being better spent.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2587 times:



Quoting Richierich (Reply 16):
but I have bought food for San Francisco panhandlers before. I won't give them cash but a nice, solid meal. At least I know my money is being better spent.

Yeah that's the best thing, if you someone panhandling on the street buy them a Big-Mac.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7511 posts, RR: 24
Reply 18, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2559 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 15):
Prior to 9/11 I would see those folks along with the inner city kids selling chocolate bars for "fund raisers", that's one of the good things from the tighter screening.

Not to nitpick but a candy fund-raiser is different than panhandling because with a panhandler, one is not receiving goods and/or services in return.



"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
User currently offlineChase From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2382 times:



Quoting STT757 (Reply 17):
Yeah that's the best thing, if you someone panhandling on the street buy them a Big-Mac.

...or better yet, some food that actually has some nutritional value  Wink


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16828 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2382 times:



Quoting Chase (Reply 19):
..or better yet, some food that actually has some nutritional value

1/4 pounder with Cheese?.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineSkyway1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2329 times:

Never experienced that at either MDW or ORD....and I've flown in and out of both A LOT. Now getting on and out of Wrigley Field is another story....'

User currently offlineNickMDW From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 2263 times:

Probably don't want to give them Mcdonalds

http://tennessean.com/article/20090421/NEWS03/904210340


User currently offlineWarRI1 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 8852 posts, RR: 10
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 2068 times:



Quoting Richierich (Reply 16):
also have a very soft heart when it comes to panhandlers, but I think you did the correct thing. Giving money just means it'll continue and perhaps spread. It's not exactly a desirable trait even if it was just a kid looking to cop a free buck or two.

I agree, sorry about being among the missing, my computer crashed, thanks for the replies.



It is better to die on your feet, than live on your knees.
User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 2050 times:



Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 14):
On the SECURE side of the airport (which is the understood premise of thread) as well???

I was asked for money for a charity a few months ago in LAX and I found security had already turfed him out of the area once before. His charity was a scam and he fund a loophole in the security. Feeling safe now?



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25 WarRI1 : Now that is much more alrming than a child trying to get a hamburger. Not good!
26 KE7JFF : As a child who was traveling through ORD in the early 90s, I remember one time actually there was a very tall man who threw one of those sign language
27 PHLBOS : It probably was similar to the cards that the panhandler I saw at PHL (back in Aug. 2000) tried to sell off.
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