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Bagagge Allowance: Piece System VS Weight System  
User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3330 times:

The question arouse in the "Delta going to charge $ 50.00 for a second bag"-topic. It has been bugging me for years:

how come, that the IATA rules require two free bags of up to 50 lbs each (Piece system) for travel to the American continent, while for travel in the rest of the world, it's usually just a total allowance of 20 kg (44 lbs) (weight system). However, if your intinerary includes the Americas, e.g. for a round the world ticket, the piece system applies...

I mean, in comparison what you are officially granted (by the IATA) when flying from Europe to OZ is a joke in comparison for a flight with the very same airline from Europe to - let's say - JFK...

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User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 4307 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 3270 times:

Surely this difference is purely down to what US airlines have traditionally allowed ?

All airlines would like to carry as little luggage as possible, and for the rest of the World they agree on 20kg

For travel to the US though, foreign carriers have to allow more, in order to compete with AA UA DL etc.

User currently offlinePA101 From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 491 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 1):

Well, I surely understand that foreign carriers have to compete on US routes with US carriers, but how come that IATA regulations "grants" 2 pieces per pax on flights to the Americas??? I mean, it's more than just a common practice, isn't it?

User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 4307 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3162 times:

I don't think IATA do dictate baggage allowances.
The following link clearly states that it is down to the individual airline


For sure BA have said that they are reducing maximum bag weights down to 23kg, as opposed to 32kg, which is said by IATA to be the norm for travel to/from the USA

User currently offlineSmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1793 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (7 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3122 times:

It was explained quiet well in the other DL thread
by Eghansen:
[QUOTE]I can give you an explanation for why, but it still might not make any sense.

In the US, airlines have always permitted 2 bags domestically. Until the last 10 years with the advent of the long-range twins, most people who flew trans-oceanic from the US had to change planes somewhere on the east coast for Europe and somewhere on the west coast for Asia.

Consequently, many people boarded a domestic flight before connecting to an international flight and the bags were checked through. Especially in the days of Pan Am, your connection could involve two different airlines.

Consequently, airlines tended to match the international allowances from the US with the domestic allowance inside the US. Otherwise, you would end up charging the local passengers who board at JFK for extra baggage, but not the connecting passengers who originally came from CLE, etc[QUOTE]

I just can't believe that American carriers didn't move to the weight system as a cost cutting measure straight when things started to go down hill, would have been the first thing on my list way above plastic cups and stuff, removing half the luggage would save and enormous amout of fuel, or at least have any extra weight being subbsadised by excess charges.

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