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Pilots Recognizing That They Are A "Heavy"  
User currently offlineAirbus380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1219 times:

When I listen to IAH ATC I always hear "Continental 1 descending out of 17 for 12." Then the ATC says "Roger Continental 1 Heavy." I hear this a lot. Why does the pilot not always say that he is a "heavy?" Thanks!

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User currently offlineCapt.Picard From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1163 times:

Perhaps the rule is not stringently enforced??

I would also like to know why "heavy" needs to be used for larger a/c, in US airspace. (It is not used in Europe).

CP


User currently offlineAJ From Australia, joined Nov 1999, 2381 posts, RR: 24
Reply 2, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1131 times:

The term 'Heavy' denotes the aircraft's wake turbulence category. In the U.S. it should be used as part of the callsign, in Europe it is only on first contact with ATC.  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineJunior From Switzerland, joined Apr 2001, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1113 times:

I hope I'm not wrong, but I think as already mentioned, in the U.S. it should be used with every call, in Canada only with the first call (every freq.) and in Europe only with the first call on the approach freq.

User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 45
Reply 4, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1084 times:

Perhaps you had a scanner blip or that part of the transmission was muffled.

redngold



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User currently offlineJETPILOT From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3130 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1073 times:

"Heavy" indicates an aircrafts weight category. In the US it is over 255,000 pounds MGTOW.

Probably poor radio procedure on the pilots part.

JET


User currently offlineJet Joc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1062 times:

When I listen to IAH ATC I always hear "Continental 1 descending out of 17 for 12." Also, when I listen to JAX Center I hear, "Southwest XXXX climbing out of 26 for 29." What's do those mean?

User currently offlineN766AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1037 times:

What you are hearing are the altitudes or flight levels.

"Continental 1 descending out of 17 for 12."

Continental 1 is descending out of 17000 for 12000.



User currently offlineSkippy208 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1039 times:

Pilots don't acknowledge it because it's embarassing to be overweight. How would you like it if you talked on the radio and some said "OK, fatty" in response?

Skippy


User currently offlineFBWless From Sweden, joined Feb 2000, 193 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1026 times:

Especially the weight of the captain's wallet make all the major's a/cs heavy...

User currently offlineAduum From Australia, joined Sep 2000, 335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1017 times:

aaaahahahahahahaha  Smile

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