FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57 Posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 8256 times:
AF will take delivery of its first A380 (msn 033, F-HPJA) in October.
The first revenue flight is expected on NOV. 16th
JFK and then DXB will be the first two destinations used for pilots training.
Then AF will use its A380 to JNB.
Today, JNB is served from CDG by 2 x Daily B77W.
The night flight to JNB from CDG will remain DAILY and upgraded to an A380 while the second flight (daylight CDG-JNB) will be reduced to 3 x Weekly (B77W).
To NRT, where AF operates 3 x Daily today, AF will go down to 2 x DAILY with an A380 operating AF272/AF271 and a B77W operating AF278/AF277.
The third (morning) frequency to NRT (A332 or A343) will be moved to HND.
IAD, during the summer, will also go from 3 x Daily to 2 x Daily, one of the 2 being upgraded to an A380.
The second A380 (msn 040 F-HPJB) will be delivered in November 2009, and the third one (msn 043 F-HPJC) in January 2010.
Two more aircraft F-HPJD & JE should be delivered in 2010, normally before the summer ...
KL911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5308 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7751 times:
Great news, but what is the reason for making CDG JNB the focus route instead of AMS JNB considering the historical relationship between South Africa and The Netherlands? The fact is that there are a lot of Dutch people living in or go on holiday to South Africa.
FlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7225 times:
Quoting Goavibes (Reply 5): Considering that AF271 is a code shared with JAL, operated by JAL, I don't see that coming, Unless they change the flights numbers, we can safely assumed that AF271 won't be on a A380.
My mistake .. Sorry : AF276 / AF275 will be the A380.
AF278/277 will remain a B77W.
AF272/279 should be the one moved to HND.
Flymad From South Africa, joined Jun 2006, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 8 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7116 times:
Quoting Pellegrine (Reply 4): Interesting, I didn't know JNB was such a high traffic route in the AF network.
Bit of a surprise for me as well, albeit a nice surprise!. I recently spoke to a passenegr that flew
JNB/CDG/MAN on the AF night flight who told me that although premium was full, Y had only 11 (eleven) pax. He said it was better than F with all the space they had!!
Speedbird128 From Pitcairn Islands, joined Oct 2003, 1648 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 8 months 6 days ago) and read 4315 times:
Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 19): KL changed AMS-JNB from B747 to B772 on 26 March because it needs less cargo space in JNB since Martinair was integrated into AF/KL group and operates JNB cargo only flights.
KL AMS-CPT operates 5 x week B772 during the Summer and daily B772 during the Winter.
Thanks for that information. There must have been an error in our system. We often don't get long-haul flight plans and they are created this side manually once Harare telephones us with the inbound estimate.
I have also noticed, that the MPH MD11 has been swapped for an B744BCF.