OA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 60 Reply 4, posted (4 years 4 weeks ago) and read 4315 times:
Hmm the article I read in Travel Mole said ''This means it will be able to fly its flagship A380 from the airport. ''. It does not however say they will. I think they probably will if demand increases over the July/August period. Would be nice for Manchester.
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Twas in MAN news 28. THere's some discussions on a newsgroup about what the plans are post September for EK - there are suggestions that MAN goes 3 daily with one service to be operated by A380 but that's going to be one hell of a leap in capacity, especially if the 2 other services remain as 77W. Perhaps A380 and 77W may be the short-term plan. Long-term it may be 2 A330s and an A380. Having said that, using them now would be "wasting" them as they are low density versions - the plan is for the A380 high density to come, but who knows when that variety will be delivered!
Damian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 231 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3908 times:
Quoting Alasdair1982 (Reply 6): Any updates on a possible second GLA service?
A few years back EK said they were "evaluating" potential expansion in Scotland, with either a second daily GLA service or a new service to EDI under consideration, but nothing's been heard from them since. Can't see any Scottish expansion for a few years yet, at least not until the economic situation improves.
Gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2880 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3904 times:
Wow, I thought EK were already operating 3x daily from MAN.
That means with BHX going twice daily with 77W they are going to have the same capacity. Never expected that BHX would match MAN for capacity to DXB with EK!
I can see it from two perspectives:
1)
I would expect to see EK sending the A380's to airports where runway capacity is an issue, and this is not the case at MAN. With them instead starting a 3rd daily rotation with an A330 or 777-200/300...
2)
On the other hand if the MAN service is doing that well, instead of starting a 3rd daily service the A380 provides the additional capacity. This also in-effect free up two smaller aircraft which would be required to operate a three times daily service to serve other routes.
Also thinking about it, for passengers connecting in Dubai for routes to Asia, Southern/Western Africa and Australia, these leave in two waives each day and if a third daily service to Manchester was started this would not necessarily connect with the routes UK passengers want, and may not be enough demand just for passengers flying to Dubai only...
MAN23R From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 256 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3797 times:
a few updated work regarding EK at MAN,
-the A380 on B pier will not be finished until October at the earliest.
- the emirates sky lounge in still under construction and is to be completed by the end of June
- EK station manager has stated many times that the A380 will only start operating at the start of 2010, and no sooner, due to MAN isnt ready
other side note, speaking with ATC officials at MAN, they said they do not want the A380 anytime soon,they told me its an operation nightmare and are dreading the thought of having multiple A380 movements.
Gkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 58 Reply 12, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3782 times:
Quoting MAN23R (Reply 11): other side note, speaking with ATC officials at MAN, they said they do not want the A380 anytime soon,they told me its an operation nightmare and are dreading the thought of having multiple A380 movements.
It'll only be once a day!
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BlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 2514 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3739 times:
Ha ! ATC "officials" saying they don't want the A380. Sounds more like a displaced ATSA not happy with his lot at the moment.
I don't know one ATCO who would say such a thing - and I live with one.
btw, there is no-one qualified as an "ATC Official" at MAN to say such things. NATS provide an Aerodrome ATC service to MAN on contract. It would be a huge dereliction of duty and breach of contract for anyone employed by NATS and working at MAN to say such rubbish in any capacity, official or otherwise.
[Edited 2009-04-24 15:56:27]
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Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10668 posts, RR: 100 Reply 14, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3716 times:
Quoting MAN23R (Reply 11): - EK station manager has stated many times that the A380 will only start operating at the start of 2010,
You're throwing facts in the way of our discussion.
Quoting Gilesdavies (Reply 8): Also thinking about it, for passengers connecting in Dubai for routes to Asia, Southern/Western Africa and Australia, these leave in two waives each day and if a third daily service to Manchester was started this would not necessarily connect with the routes UK passengers want, and may not be enough demand just for passengers flying to Dubai only...
Question: Is EK sticking to two waves per day to Australia? They now have rights to 3X day and I would expect them to be trying to enlarge the 3rd wave.
Quoting MAN23R (Reply 11): other side note, speaking with ATC officials at MAN, they said they do not want the A380 anytime soon,they told me its an operation nightmare and are dreading the thought of having multiple A380 movements.
A Gkirk already noted, its only once a day! Who else that is flying A380's is going to fly to MAN?
SQ Unlikely.
QF Not anytime soon
EK it would only be one at a time...
AF Not on such a short flight
LH Ditto
Its going to be until 2011 that we even have a chance of another airline flying the A380 to MAN. I think they could adapt by then... Heck, we might be talking much further in the future.
David_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7144 posts, RR: 14 Reply 15, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3481 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 14): Gkirk already noted, its only once a day! Who else that is flying A380's is going to fly to MAN?
Any potential "issues" are being raised in the event of LHR being closed, there's the prospect of having SQ and QF possibly diverting. Mind you, there should be a window of opportunity for one if not both diversions having gone by the time the, I imagine, A380 arrives at lunchtime on EK17. I'm led to believe that MAN will have a max of 2 A380s in at one time (at least to begin with!) - gate 12? plus gate 62. I daresay the long-term plans for terminal expansion may involve having gate 31 being readied for use, and possibly 1 or 2 gates at an expanded T2 with room for another 1 or 2 in the "Western Apron". I doubt whether MAN will see more than 2 airlines with A380 ops, but's it's better to be prepared to handle a few (after all, we've had over 20 747s on the ground at one time, despite only having a couple of airlines who used them here on a scheduled basis).
Danfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1780 posts, RR: 9 Reply 16, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3414 times:
As much as i would love to see the A380 at MAN, i think id prefer a morning flight that leaves around 8am ish first, on an A330. This could rival SQ who lets be honest look as if they are going to pull the plug anyway and their flights leaves at 9.
Having the choice of 3 daily departures would be a good move for EK, passengers want choice. So daily it could be 1x330 and 2x77W.
I Just think any move by EK should be a 3rd daily to start with. Then the A380! Surely there are more markets they'll send them before MAN anyway.
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Pe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 18826 posts, RR: 54 Reply 19, posted (4 years 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1796 times:
Quoting David_itl (Reply 18): Which timetable? EK's own timetable only goes up to April 1st and didn't spot a 3rd daily service. MAN's own timetable shows only 2 flights,
I also could only find 2x daily.
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Heck, we might be talking much further in the future.
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