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User currently offlineEmile From Netherlands, joined Nov 2000, 210 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2214 times:

we got SKYWINGS
KLM and air FRANCE are talking in informal alliiance talks
wow delta
continental
alaska airlines
northwest in the usa

aeroflot????
alitalia???
braathens
csa
cypres airways
malev in europe

air china ,garuda??? ,japan air system,korean,malaysia airlines in asian
air afrique and kenya airways in africa
mexicana and maybe tam
what do you think about this



emile

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User currently offlineSteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1381 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2078 times:

Hey slow down,
do you really think that an informal talk will lead to something?

I am sure that these talks won't bring us the huge alliance you foresaw, especially in the US (DL/CO/NW) and EU (AF/AZ/KL).

Ciao

Stefano


User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

Emile,
Could you kindly post the article on this thread? The link to afxpress.com doesn't go.


User currently offlineAussie_ From Australia, joined Dec 2000, 1766 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2044 times:

you will never get all those US airlines in one alliance

Also look at the rest of the list. All average airlines or otherwise airlines with bad (sometimes undeserved) reputations. Garuda, Aeroflot, CSA, Cyprus, Air Afrique, Air China are hardly airlines with a shining reputation.

I also add that many on the list are speculation. For example, who said Garuda has any alliance hopes with KLM, same with Air Afrique and AF etc.


User currently offlineNUair From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

Stefano,

This sounds like a post we had about a month ago when KL and AZ was falling apart. Could AF possibly bring AZ and KL together in the end??

It would be nice to actually be able to read this article and see how possible it really is. Since it hasn't been reported yet by any other sources I think it could just be premature speculation.

Have you heard anything more on the AF/AZ alliance?? This would be nice to see but I wonder if AZ/AF/KL can really work together to make it happen. Another huge advantage would be expansion potential. Paris, Amsterdam, Rome, and Milan all have room for growth compared with Frankfurt and London.

NUair



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User currently offlineSteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1381 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Yes NUair,
I remember our talks on the argument.
And I feel like you that these are just speculations.
Also in the Air France/Alitalia deal there are just speculations and nothing more.
AF/KL/AZ? It could work, especially considering their hubs but I think we are still in a too early stage of airlines alliances to bet on these mega mergers or mega agreements.

Ciao

Stefano


User currently offlineWatewate From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 2284 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Here is the actual article. I wouldn't even call it an article.

>>KLM, Air France reportedly in informal alliance talks
AMSTERDAM (AFX) - KLM Royal Dutch Airlines NV CEO Leo van Wijk will Thursday announce the airline is in informal talks with Groupe Air France on a possible alliance, BusinessNews Radio reported.
http://www.afxpress.com/afxpress2/html/story_14699.xml



User currently offlineAtlanticStar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 1922 times:


Anybody knows anything about EMIRATES and joining an aaliance ???????



User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1832 times:

Aussie_, you are definitely wrong about Aeroflot and CSA.

User currently offlineMorecy From United States of America, joined May 2000, 216 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1825 times:

I agree with RIX that CSA is certainly NOT questionable in terms of good service. I can't speak from experience because I have not flown CSA, but SkyTeam has made it a point to offer membership only to airlines that can meet their service criteria. As for Aeroflot, it's my understanding that they are still working (very diligently) on improving service... but SkyTeam membership is a ways off.




User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Well, my comment on Aeroflot was from my personal experience. Their international First and Business are just great. In Business their 737-400s have 2-2 wide seats, much better than on other European airlines.

User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 11, posted (13 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1813 times:

Emile, you got that from a one-line blurb?

I don't think so... that's an awful lot of speculation there. And Mexicana is in this thing called Star Alliance...



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