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Questions About The CRJ-900  
User currently offlineViajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 134 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 6 months 15 hours ago) and read 5167 times:
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I've noticed most of the CRJ variants carry "ER" or "LR" designations based on component packages etc.. Does the -900 series also carry one or both of these designators? Also would they apply to the Next Gen aircraft? Thanks for any insight you can provide.
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Viajero

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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 8 hours ago) and read 5042 times:

Mmm... maybe a dumb question, but have you tried the Bombardier website? IIRC these designations are still used, but I'm not sure.


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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4809 times:

On Bombardiers website you have the following:

http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/pdf/CRJ900_EN.pdf
http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/pdf/CRJ700_EN.pdf
http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/pdf/CRJ1000_EN.pdf

The range numbers for the CRJ-900NextGen is as follows:

Maximum range at LRC
CRJ900 NextGen (88 pax) 1,304 NM 1,500 SM 2,414 km
CRJ900 NextGen ER (88 pax) 1,557 NM 1,792 SM 2,883 km
CRJ900 NextGen LR (88 pax) 1,804 NM 2,076 SM 3,341 km

You should really check out this site:

http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/index.html



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User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4691 times:
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I think all new CRJ900 customers opt for the LR version, as it allows decent range with 80-90 pax onboard. Did they ever sell any "standard version" aircraft? I think Mesa's are all ER...?


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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4639 times:



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 3):
I think all new CRJ900 customers opt for the LR version, as it allows decent range with 80-90 pax onboard.

i believe that to be correct. SAS went with the LR so they can use it on a variety of routes.



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4547 times:



Quoting OyKIE (Reply 2):
On Bombardiers website you have the following:

http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/pdf/CRJ900_EN.pdf
http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/pdf/CRJ700_EN.pdf
http://www2.bombardier.com/CRJ/en/NextGen/pdf/CRJ1000_EN.pdf

The range numbers for the CRJ-900NextGen is as follows:

Maximum range at LRC
CRJ900 NextGen (88 pax) 1,304 NM 1,500 SM 2,414 km
CRJ900 NextGen ER (88 pax) 1,557 NM 1,792 SM 2,883 km
CRJ900 NextGen LR (88 pax) 1,804 NM 2,076 SM 3,341 km

I wonder what kind of market they are going to attract for these new 100 seat CRJ1000's. The CRJ900 is already a bear to handle depending on the destination - like MYR, CHS, ect where you have to leave bags behind because of the size of the bins. I can't help but wonder how many lower carry on bag holds they will have. I would suspect probably three....


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2205 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4468 times:
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Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 5):
I can't help but wonder how many lower carry on bag holds they will have. I would suspect probably three....

Only two extended underfloor holds and a larger rear cargo hold, from drawings I have seen.

But doesn't the NextGen overhead bins take roller bags now, so that less have to go in the hold?



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User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4316 times:



Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 6):
But doesn't the NextGen overhead bins take roller bags now, so that less have to go in the hold?

On the CRJ900's I've seen they certainly don't - and I am referring to the relatively new SkyWest ones. It looks like the drawings on the Bombardier website make the CRJ1000 look liked yet another stretched variant of what has already been streched twice. Considering how cramped these aircraft already are onboard - I don't see how they could manage to get big enough overhead bins in that a/c without obstructing something.


User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 4150 times:



Quoting Flyibaby (Reply 7):
It looks like the drawings on the Bombardier website make the CRJ1000 look liked yet another stretched variant of what has already been streched twice.

It is a stretched variant of something that is stretched twice. However the complete family have gotten larger windows, larger bins, better fuel economy and cost less to maintain.



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User currently offlineBomber996 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 4095 times:



Quoting OyKIE (Reply 8):
It is a stretched variant of something that is stretched twice.

Three times. Remember, the CRJ-200 is a stretched Challenger. So that makes 5 aircraft... Challenger, CRJ-200, CRJ-700, CRJ-900, CRJ-1000.

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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3893 times:



Quoting Bomber996 (Reply 9):
Three times. Remember, the CRJ-200 is a stretched Challenger. So that makes 5 aircraft... Challenger, CRJ-200, CRJ-700, CRJ-900, CRJ-1000.

So true, even tough the challenger was designed with a wide fuselage to make it easy to stretch. Are the wings on the CRJ-100 and 200 a new design compared to the original Challenger? It seems like there was allot done to the design between the Challanger and the CRJ.



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User currently offlineDurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 730 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3775 times:



Quoting OyKIE (Reply 10):
So true, even tough the challenger was designed with a wide fuselage to make it easy to stretch. Are the wings on the CRJ-100 and 200 a new design compared to the original Challenger? It seems like there was allot done to the design between the Challanger and the CRJ.

My understanding is the wing is similar but had a few things changed. They should really try putting the 700/900 wing on a 200 and see how it performs. I suspect the performance would jump considerably.


User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 3745 times:



Quoting DurangoMac (Reply 11):
My understanding is the wing is similar but had a few things changed. They should really try putting the 700/900 wing on a 200 and see how it performs. I suspect the performance would jump considerably.

I agree...the leading edge on the CRJ 200 wing really makes it a ground hog.


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