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One Less DC-3 In The World  
User currently offlineInfomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10168 times:

Four Star Air Cargo (US Virgin Islands / Puerto Rico) lost one of their six DC-3Cs yesterday (Sunday. A cockpit fire whilst taxiing, apparently. All crew evacuated safely. Shame about the Dak.

http://www.airlineupdate.com/airlines/caribbean/virginus.htm

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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1858 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 10039 times:
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What a shame... Glad the crew is OK but I hate to see a DC-3 go  Sad


Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineJogales From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 437 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9897 times:

Picture:

http://www.airlineupdate.com/airline...cident_reports/4starac_26apr09.htm



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User currently offlineHangarRat From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 633 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 9804 times:

What would cause a fire like that in the cockpit of a DC-3?


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User currently offlineInfomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9555 times:

Could be anything from a cigarette to faulty wiring. Whatever it was, it will take more than a Liverpool cut-and-shut expert to fix it. (The reference is for Brits. Everyone else - just use your imagination).

User currently offlineLan707 From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 111 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9344 times:

This must be the 4th loss this year of a DC-3. What a sad day!!!!!!!!!!!  Sad  Sad

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User currently offlineAvroArrow From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 1045 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9294 times:

Wow, the poor old girl had her face burnt right off. Always a shame when any aircraft has its day, but more so a legend like the gooneybird. On the upside nobody was hurt and there will be a good supply of airframe (from the un-burned sections) and engine parts made available to keep other DC-3s flying.


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User currently offlineCrimsonNL From Netherlands, joined Dec 2007, 1858 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9272 times:
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I was looking at pictures of her better days, the cargo door, does that indicate she was built as a C-47? Or was the DC-3 (F?) built like this way? IIRC the PAX DC-3's for UA had the PAX entry door on the right?


Nothing's worse then flying the same registration twice, except flying it 4 times..
User currently offlineInfomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 9064 times:

The aircraft was a C-47A.

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 8612 times:

AFAIK the C47 was unpressurised.

At least that avoids the issues that often arise when the integrity of the plane is compromised.

You can simply replace panels or sections.

So if there is a wreck with a good cockpit ...


User currently offlineInfomaniac From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 30 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 7014 times:

Bennett123

I wasn't being completely serious about the cut and shut! I think this bird has had its day. you have to wonder at the economics of running a fleet of Daks these days. They must be a nightmare to maintain, even if spares are readily available. I guess it won't be long before the rest of the radial prop aircraft are all finally retired.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6653 times:

I was being slightly tongue in cheeck.

However, if the damage is limited to the nose, it could be more feasible than it sounds.


User currently offlineBlackbird1331 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1893 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4843 times:

Anyone know when this particular airframe first flew?


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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 4370 times:



Quoting Blackbird1331 (Reply 12):
Anyone know when this particular airframe first flew?

1943

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 9):
So if there is a wreck with a good cockpit ...

I know you are joking but... http://www.flightglobal.com/AIRSPACE...ice-aircraft-turbo-dc-3-22681.aspx

Quoting Lan707 (Reply 5):
This must be the 4th loss this year of a DC-3

Yes, was just thinking that:

1) Colombia Police
2) Colombia Air Force (both same day in unrelated incidents)
3) ALCI in Antarctica

There was another Turbo BT67 had an incident in the US too - was a research machine I think.



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User currently offlineTeneriffe77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 468 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

Avherald has some other pictures of it:
http://avherald.com/h?article=418b8766&opt=0


User currently offlineThirtyEcho From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 1645 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3779 times:



Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 7):
the cargo door, does that indicate she was built as a C-47? Or was the DC-3 (F?) built like this way? IIRC the PAX DC-3's for UA had the PAX entry door on the right?

Yes, the cargo door indicates that this was built as a C-47.

The DC-3s first delivered to American Airlines in the 1930s had the passenger door on the right; any DC-3 so configured is one, originally, owned by AA.


User currently offlineNycbjr From United States of America, joined exactly 7 years ago today! , 447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2726 times:



Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 13):
here was another Turbo BT67 had an incident in the US too - was a research machine I think.

Here you go

http://mojaveskies.blogspot.com/2009...bine-dc-3-crashes-on-take-off.html


User currently offlineRsg85 From Australia, joined Aug 2006, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

i would say a shut and cut was possible, but looking at other pics on av herald of the aircraft i notice there are 2 other four star c47's in the background that are engineless so it looks like this one will be parted out

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