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CO LAX-HNL 764 Flights  
User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2639 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5873 times:

I was checking out CO's LAX-HNL skeds and find that Flight 12 HNL-LAX Thursday's and Flight 3 on Friday LAX-HNL are shown as 764 equipment. Does anyone know where the aircraft comes from? The HNL-GUM/IAH/EWR flights are all daily. CO isn't running a 764 spare in HNL or a mod program there, are they?
Where does the 752 Flight 3 LAX-HNL on Thursday turn to? Flight 12 Friday evening?

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User currently onlineN104UA From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 915 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5834 times:

There is also a 764 that flies HNL-IAH on Monday and GUM on Tuesday but other days they say 767


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User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2639 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5813 times:



Quoting N104UA (Reply 1):
There is also a 764 that flies HNL-IAH on Monday and GUM on Tuesday but other days they say 767

I guess I'm not worried about the difference in the European (764) or Pacific (767) configurations, rather there's no 767-400 ER of any type in HNL on Thursday to make up Flight 12.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21532 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5776 times:

Probably swapping planes from heavy service in HKG. They do these kind of subs to get the planes to and from HKG, so I suppose they would then ferry it to HKG.

Alternatively, it could be a military charter to/from HNL or another kind of charter, and they are using it on a HNL-LAX-HNL turn to utilize it better.



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3660 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 5651 times:
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Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 2):

I guess I'm not worried about the difference in the European (764) or Pacific (767) configurations, rather there's no 767-400 ER of any type in HNL on Thursday to make up Flight 12.

Not exactly true. CO always has 767s RON at HNL everyday. The 764 used on the Thursday CO2 flight means that an extra 764 is in HNL on Thursday as this flight arrives in HNL on Wednesday. This is the most likely routing of the 764 for the Thursday CO12 flight:

Tue - IAH-HNL-GUM (arrive GUM Wed 17:55)
Wed - RON at GUM
Thu - GUM-HNL (arrive HNL Wed 17:35, RON at HNL Wed)
Thu - HNL-LAX
Fri - LAX-HNL

I wouldn't be surprised if a 764 RON at HNL on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday since CO2 HNL-IAH is a 764 on Monday.

BTW, the 757 does RON at HNL on Thursday.


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3970 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5437 times:
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its been scheduled this way almost since LAX-HNL was downgraded to a 757.............maybe two months into the downgrade this came on the shcedule as a regular on these flights.


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User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2639 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

OK, so from what you guys are saying, CO has a 767-400 sitting in HNL six days a week. If this is true, then it must be considered a spare or provides some type type of maintenance opportunity. In more detail it looks like the layover aircraft is a (764) European version, which has its only flying being Flight 2 HNL-IAH on Monday, Flight 1 IAH-HNL-GUM or Tuesday and Flight 2 GUM-HNL Thursday (date line) arrives HNL Wednesday, Flight 12 HNL-LAX on Thursday and Flight 3 on Friday. So a 764 version sits in HNL from 1245 Friday to 2050 Monday, again from 1735 Wednesday until 2050 on Thursday and a 767 version sits from midday Monday to 2050 Wednesday?

This sounds strange as we were told CO downgraded 3/12 to a 752 because of a 764 shortage. So, the aircraft is in HNL to do Flights 12/3 daily, but a 752 has been taken from the schedule somewhere else to operate 12/3 six days per week and sit in HNL for 31 hours from Thursday at 1245 to Friday at 2050. Strange if true.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 5306 times:



Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 6):
If this is true, then it must be considered a spare or provides some type type of maintenance opportunity.

CO has a maintenance hangar at HNL.



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User currently offlineCospn From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1619 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3794 times:

I thought the "extra" was from IAH 72/73 IAH-HNL ??? what days does 72/72 operate ?

User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2639 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3460 times:



Quoting Cospn (Reply 8):
I thought the "extra" was from IAH 72/73 IAH-HNL ??? what days does 72/72 operate ?

Daily with a 767 Pacific configured bird.


User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3660 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2379 times:
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Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 6):
So a 764 version sits in HNL from 1245 Friday to 2050 Monday, again from 1735 Wednesday until 2050 on Thursday and a 767 version sits from midday Monday to 2050 Wednesday?

Any CO aircraft that RON at HNL under goes maintenance checks during the night. They will then swap out that aircraft with an inbound one and then do it all over again. The same goes for the 757 that RON on Thursday.


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4235 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2260 times:



Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 2):
I guess I'm not worried about the difference in the European (764) or Pacific (767) configurations, rather there's no 767-400 ER of any type in HNL on Thursday to make up Flight 12.

Why? The 767 that flies to HNL are all of the -400 variety usually in the pacific config. I don't believe that the -200 type ever flies any where but Europe, but don't hesitate to correct me.



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User currently onlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2639 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2176 times:



Quoting Brilondon (Reply 11):
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 2):
I guess I'm not worried about the difference in the European (764) or Pacific (767) configurations, rather there's no 767-400 ER of any type in HNL on Thursday to make up Flight 12.

Why? The 767 that flies to HNL are all of the -400 variety usually in the pacific config. I don't believe that the -200 type ever flies any where but Europe, but don't hesitate to correct me.

Both the 764 (European) and 767 (Pacific) are 767-400ERs in CO';s internal fleet identification. The 767-200ER is designated 762, which flies the Europe, South America and limited IAH-EWR flights.


User currently offlineBrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4235 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2170 times:



Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 12):
Both the 764 (European) and 767 (Pacific) are 767-400ERs in CO';s internal fleet identification. The 767-200ER is designated 762, which flies the Europe, South America and limited IAH-EWR flights.

That should answer your own question then.



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User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2412 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2090 times:



Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 12):
Both the 764 (European) and 767 (Pacific) are 767-400ERs in CO';s internal fleet identification. The 767-200ER is designated 762, which flies the Europe, South America and limited IAH-EWR flights.

'76H' is Continental's internal designation for the 767-400ER High Density (20/236). '767' only how these aircraft are loaded into the CRS.


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