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KLM Embraer Fly Out Route To AMS  
User currently offlineEcuadorianMD11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4212 times:

Dear all,

as a bit of a novice at all this, I fear my question sounds kind of silly to all of you experts!
But, if you could bear with me and try to answer the following question please, that´d be most obliged:

Those brand spanking Embraers that KLM are having delivered lately, how do they fly Brazil - Amsterdam? With extended range fuel tanks, or is the Northern Great-circle route via Canada with a few stops here and there the actual trick?

Couldn´t find it Googling, you see.

Cheers,

Ecuadorian MD11.

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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

The exact routing would depend on weather conditions, but Embraer deliveries to Europe generally go via REC, SID or DKR if necessary, and then the Canary Islands (e.g., LPA or TFS) and/or Portugal (e.g., FAO). The overwater segment REC-SID is only 1895 miles, so extra fuel tanks shouldn't be necessary.

If you look in the database, there are numerous photos of Embraers for European airlines spotted at REC on their delivery flights, including a KLM E190 that was going from there to TFS:

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And here's one at SID:

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A sample routing of SJK-REC-TFS-AMS is almost directly on the great circle route from SJK to AMS.



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User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3585 times:



Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 1):
The exact routing would depend on weather conditions, but Embraer deliveries to Europe generally go via REC, SID or DKR if necessary, and then the Canary Islands (e.g., LPA or TFS) and/or Portugal (e.g., FAO). The overwater segment REC-SID is only 1895 miles, so extra fuel tanks shouldn't be necessary.

I confirm the above information that aircraft deliveries of EMBRAER to Europe normally make stop-overs in REC and SID and if necessary also DKR. FAO is the other preferred stop-over because it is the location of EMBRAER maintenance center in Europe.

Rgs @ SFO


User currently offlineEcuadorianMD11 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2940 times:

Dear FoxBravo / Hardiwv,

okay, thanks..........
You really helped shining a light in the dark.

I kind of like those little Embraers.
You see quite a few with TAME in Euador now as well.
Not sure if they´re the identical type to the KLM ones though.
TAME do, however; name their planes after cities like KLM does with their 747´s.


Cheers!

EcMd11


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