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Turkish Aviation May 2009  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9043 times:

Iyi Mayislar everyone,
Here we go again, another summer season starts for Turkish Aviation. Amid the economic climate, it looks like most of the Turkish carriers are getting ready for the summer season by adding new jets to their fleets.
This month will mark the departure of A310-300 pax fleet from TK livery. I always said they were the workhorse for the fleet for all these years. A job well done, we will miss you -JDA and -JDB.


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Please share your views, rumors, news on what's going on in Turkish Aviation:
-When can we expect the 2x 332s to join the TK fleet?
-What is the latest on Canada flights?
-How is the GRU flights doing?
-Performance of the 773ERs? I am still waiting for more news on the 5 more ordered. 2 or 3 class?
-Will we ever see a 787/350 order? It has been 3 years or so by now.

Please feel free to add your ESB, ADB news and news about other carriers.

Here is the May 2008 thread:
http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...general_aviation/read.main/3964222

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24312 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9039 times:



Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
-What is the latest on Canada flights?

"Pending Governmental Approval"

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
2 or 3 class?

3-class, but a different concept then what we see on the Jet Airways aircraft.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9035 times:



Quoting LAXintl (Reply 1):

Wow , that was fast.
So I can speculate that, we can see a premium economy for TK.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24312 posts, RR: 47
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 9030 times:

I'd rather not comment as it has not yet even been formaly announced to employees.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineTHEENGINEER From Germany, joined Mar 2007, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 9001 times:

Sorry to hear that the A310 is leaving the THY fleet. On which routes were the last two planes used? Will those routes be replaced by the A321? Any news about some new 777 routes? I heard the next one will be JFK.

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24312 posts, RR: 47
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 8999 times:

Well technically the A310 will still live on for many years at THY with the 4 freighters.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineTurkishWings From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1436 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8980 times:



Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
This month will mark the departure of A310-300 pax fleet from TK livery. I always said they were the workhorse for the fleet for all these years. A job well done, we will miss you -JDA and -JDB.

To be honest, I won't. I will not miss those planes a tiny bit. I never liked them. I never completely felt safe in those airplanes. I will be happier when the 734s leave  Smile

My highlight of the month, however, is my upcoming trip to LHR. 22-25 May, TK 1979-1980 which means both flights will be operated by the B 777-300ER. What's even better is, I will be in C class both ways... I will most probably write a TR when I get back...

P.S: Getting a UK visa has become a real pain in the neck. They now want English translations of almost all documents. Thank God they let you do your own translations at least  Smile Will apply on Wednesday....



Coffee - Tea or Me?
User currently offlineRobcol99 From Turkey, joined Jun 2004, 293 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 8927 times:



Quoting THEENGINEER (Reply 4):
Sorry to hear that the A310 is leaving the THY fleet. On which routes were the last two planes used? Will those routes be replaced by the A321? Any news about some new 777 routes? I heard the next one will be JFK.

A310s at the moment do DEL, BOM and Lagos. With the arrival of the ex-QR A332s their service will no longer be necessary.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8903 times:



Quoting THEENGINEER (Reply 4):
Any news about some new 777 routes? I heard the next one will be JFK.

I think the problem with JFK was TK couldn't fly wet-leased jets into the US. Next month TK crews is supposed to take over ,maybe we might see them in JFK.

In other news, AnadoluJet receives its 4th 737-700 TC-JKI ""Abant".


User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 930 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 8857 times:

Hi everyone,

I was in US for a short trip last month, but couldn't find a time to share on last month's thread.

On 16th of April I flew to JFK on a TK flight. Security at IST was horrible as usual. I am not sure about the aircraft but most probably it was TC-JIH "Aydın". After a 20 minutes delay, we were taxiing to 18R for the take off. We started to roll on 18R but the captain has not made any announcement like "cabin crew, take off position". We moved till the middle of the runway with a slow speed and then turned left and we've left the runway. Then the captain has told us that the brakes were overheated and we had to wait them to be cooled. We moved near the Turkish Technic and a truck has come with a cooler. In 10 minutes the captain has told "now we are ready to take off, sorry for the delay".
I think this problem was not discussed here before.

Finally with around 2 hrs delay we were on the way to JFK. The flight was ok, nothing extraordinary. When we were in JFK, we were told that another TK A340 from JFK to IST, made an emergency landing to LHR due to cabin pressure problem. I think April 16th was not a good day for TK A340s  Smile

On April 22nd, my flight was on TK from ORD to IST. Unfortunately again on an A340 "TC-JDN "Adana" ". (I don't know when I will have a chance to fly on an A330).
I flew to ORD from MIA and I had around 4,5 hrs for my IST flight. When I landed to ORD I saw the TK's 340. I think around 5 hrs, TK's bird is waiting at ORD. Isn't it too much??

The flight was 50% full and again was a very smooth flight.

After domestic flights with AA, TK is really good IMHO.
For me it was great to see A380 (EK) in JFK and fly with a female captain from MIA to ORD.


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 8827 times:

Emrecan,
I am glad you got to travel with AA for TK comparison and have seen some cool things. Isn't it great to see the variety of airliners at JFK or ORD? It is crazy to see 3 LX or 5 BA jets at the same time at JFK.

Quoting Emrecan (Reply 9):
The flight was 50% full

Baha said the same thing before. How are they going to make this daily flight work with loads like this? 330 as opposed to 340 should help. Also I think this route is served by 2 frames. That is why it sits on the ground for 5 hours. I guess it is the same situation with some SouthEast Asian routes.


User currently offlineStylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 8795 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 10):
Baha said the same thing before. How are they going to make this daily flight work with loads like this? .

with some help of UA?!?
Chicago is for sure not the best place to transfer to the West coast as it's kinda to Northern, but UA is big their and can feed them. That's my oppinion.

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
This month will mark the departure of A310-300 pax fleet from TK livery

The A310 for TK is like the A306 for LH: great aircraft for shortflights with high loads which a A321 can't handle. Of course there is a B753, but this is another story... I liked the A310 eventhough my experiences were limited to IST-ADB (around 5 times)


User currently offlineWing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1554 posts, RR: 24
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8745 times:



Quoting Emrecan (Reply 9):
We started to roll on 18R but the captain has not made any announcement like "cabin crew, take off position". We moved till the middle of the runway with a slow speed and then turned left and we've left the runway

Thats because he already decided not to take off so he didnt made a take off announcement.A340s doesnt have "brake cooling fans" as we do on A320's and when the rwy18R is used for take off brakes get very hot since there is very high volume of traffic and you have to use the brakes alot.e

The book says hot brakes significantly reduces brake performance during a rejected take off and it was a good airmanship by the captain not to take any risk for a possible abort with fully loaded A340 with hot brakes.



Widen your world
User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1757 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 8696 times:

Emrecan,
If I can add to Wing's comments , which were right on the money, the brake temperatures are important. In the CRJs that I used to fly you have 3 boxes where brake temperatures are listed (not actual temperatures but some numbers from 1 to 5).
I have never seen them get warmer than 2 in a hot day in IAH with lots of stop and goes, but in simulator we practiced certain condition of hot brakes and they are not fun..
Wing,
brake cooling fans in A320s? Wow!!  Smile

As far as UA/TK codeshare.. Well, I don't think TK knows how to use this codeshare well, Their online booking engine sucks!!! PERIOD! (We have been saying this many more years now). Their prices are really inflated.. I haven't flown THY over the pond for more than 3 years.
You would think that SEA-(ORD/JFK)-IST would make really good sense, but when TK wants $1300 where I can travel SEA-(AMS/FRA/CDG)-IST for almost half the price, guess which one I will pick  Smile



Earthbound misfit I
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 8687 times:



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 13):

All we need is Gokmen and Stylo (now Detroit based) to confirm that all TK Aviation fans here choose anything but TK to fly to IST from the US.
Here is some food for thought;
Later this year CO will become a Star partner. Will it be totally out of question to see TK operating out of EWR, maybe 3-4 times weekly on top of 7x weekly JFK?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24312 posts, RR: 47
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 8679 times:



Quoting Bahadir (Reply 13):
Well, I don't think TK knows how to use this codeshare well

To be fair, from what I understand UA is being rather stingy with allocating TK any preferential fare inventory to make most US beyond cities workable. (basically UA figures it can sell the seats itself at higher rate, then interline prorate sale)

Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
Will it be totally out of question to see TK operating out of EWR, maybe 3-4 times weekly on top of 7x weekly JFK?

I'd argue why even stay at JFK? EWR is the hub of future Star partner CO would be a much better airport for TK to serve both NYC while also providing lots of connectivity.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8603 times:

This might seem off-topic but actually it is not. I have been a frequent flyer of Turkish Airlines for few years now. All I can say is that TK product for Gulf-based persons traveling often to destinations all over Europe is just excellent.

The flights depart almost always on time, the service consistent, seats comfortable, daily flights and above all, the FOOD, is unparalleled in Europe.

One of the conveniences of flying Turkish Airlines is that as I travel frequently from Bahrain to Europe, the journey is sliced perfectly in half (3.5 hours + 3.5 hours), which is great if your butt tends to hurt when you travel on long haul flights.

Kudos for Turkish Airlines for being a great, constantly improving airline. I can't wait to fly to Brazil with them also (BAH-IST-GRU)


User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 8587 times:



Quoting AsoRock (Reply 16):

Nice to hear all that. We would love to hear about the GRU trip, since it is very new and we haven't heard anything anywhere about the service.

Quoting Bahadir (Reply 13):
Their prices are really inflated

Baha, here is a first. I might have to travel to IST in 3 days, very short notice. I was very surprised to find that TK roundtrip is $810 compared to DL $1643. Both TK flights listed as 332s also. It is usually the other way around.


User currently offlineAsoRock From Bahrain, joined May 2006, 321 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 8575 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 17):

Nice to hear all that. We would love to hear about the GRU trip, since it is very new and we haven't heard anything anywhere about the service.

By the way, I enquired about their fare for Bahrain-IST-Sao Paulo and back, and it is a very lovely USD 1,330 which is very cheap compared to flights with KLM or British Airways (almost double the price).


User currently offlineBozo From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8544 times:

Airport (HaberTürk) 03.05.2009

IDEF 2009 9th International Defence Industry Fair
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD4gjlL-TnI

R/C Aircraft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmT9NEARPeY

Cathay Pacific Business Class Advertisment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6YM16FFnqE

Recent news 03.05.2009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acFLKzACsro

Murat Bayar (IDEF 2009)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebF9Yk2H5Go

Seville, Spain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIwhUGlUDK8



Virtus Et Honor - S.P.Q.R.
User currently offlineBozo From Germany, joined Nov 2005, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8488 times:

Kokpit (CNNTürk) 03.05.2009

Air Race Abu Dhabi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbZnada0qhE

NetJets in Istanbul
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2O86q_VVns

Boeing B787 Maiden Flight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeoONDexNL8

Air Astana
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5UoocRDu0

Antonov AN-124
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tmw8LzabRII



Virtus Et Honor - S.P.Q.R.
User currently offlineStylo777 From Turkey, joined Feb 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8429 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
All we need is Gokmen and Stylo (now Detroit based) to confirm that all TK Aviation fans here choose anything but TK to fly to IST from the US.

my first choice is always LH, but this is for another much cheaper reason  Wink

Quoting AsoRock (Reply 16):
Kudos for Turkish Airlines for being a great, constantly improving airline. I can't wait to fly to Brazil with them also (BAH-IST-GRU)

...and we can't wait for this trip report as there is almost nothing in the news about the IST-GRU flight!

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15):
EWR is the hub of future Star partner CO would be a much better airport for TK to serve both NYC while also providing lots of connectivity.

...and compared to UA's ORD hub a much better located hub especially for East or even West Coast onward flights. Maybe (and hopefully) CO will work more together with TK then UA.


User currently offlineBahadir From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1757 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 8411 times:

EWR vs. JFK for TK1/2

I landed in both airports.
20 years ago JFK was junk.. has improved quite a bit and TK was smart to get into Terminal 1.
EWR has some flaws..
The delays in EWR are much longer compared to JFK
JFK is closer to mid town, to higher income Turkish communities.
I remember LAXIntl saying that JFK traffic is more O&D traffic than connecting traffic. That might be another factor why people wouldn't mind JFK over EWR.

Also, with the upcoming IAD flight may solve the problem of lack of # of connections..



Earthbound misfit I
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4299 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8315 times:



Quoting TK787 (Reply 14):
All we need is Gokmen and Stylo (now Detroit based) to confirm that all TK Aviation fans here choose anything but TK to fly to IST from the US.



Quoting TK787 (Reply 17):
I might have to travel to IST in 3 days, very short notice. I was very surprised to find that TK roundtrip is $810 compared to DL $1643.

I guess I spoke too soon.
So I ended up buying a ticket 48 hours in advance on TK for $810 (Mind you the return is late June). I already had a ticket leaving this Friday on DL, but the change fees/new ticket price were too high. So I moved the DL ticket all the way to December and bought a new TK ticket. This will be my first TK JFK-IST in 3-4 years, and really looking forward to flying the 332 on both legs. (fingers crossed, equip. change)

Quoting Bahadir (Reply 22):
EWR vs. JFK for TK1/2

Another factor to consider is the trip to Manhattan. JFK to airtrain to subway is $7, JFK to Manhattan is about $50-60.
EWR to Manhattan by trains is not super cheap and few train changes. EWR-Manhattan by cab is up to $85. Only cheaper way is to take the PATH to Newark Station ($2) and a cab to EWR from there for ($25).


User currently offlineWing From Turkey, joined Oct 2000, 1554 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8267 times:

Turkish and DO&CO to establish a new Duty Free company for THY,they will be ready around the next couple of months.

B-727 was the reason I become an airline pilot,A-310 was my ultimate goal.Unfortunate I will not be able to fly both of them.I sure will miss them all.

Quoting Bahadir (Reply 13):
Wing,
brake cooling fans in A320s? Wow!!

Airbus 320 family has more marvels that will blow a 737 pilots mind away  Wink



Widen your world
25 Theengineer : I think THY should definitely switch to EWR when Continental finally will be a member of Star Alliance. The transfer capacity for THY at JFK is almos
26 Nitepilot79 : Merhaba, hos bulduk! Do you guys know how long Onur Air will keep their MD's?
27 Post contains images Oa260 : Shame to see those go. My first flight on TK was IST-LHR on a A310. Congrats to the A310 for many years of good service.
28 Nitepilot79 : This is a bit of a sub-topic, but to all pilots that fly into ADA: the RNY 23 approach seems like it might be one of the more difficult approaches, be
29 Post contains links TK787 : I found a glitch on the TK routemap: http://www.thy.com/tr-TR/services/destination_guides/route_map.aspx Find New York, and click on the city a bit No
30 Nitepilot79 : This Pegasus 735 is a former Air Baltic craft. Now this is a logo jet!
31 Stylo777 : ...and I'll email them to hire you as their new "find-the-fault-and-fix-them-before-uploading-it-on-the-website-engineer" which aircraft are you talk
33 Post contains links and images LAXintl : Prior to the arrival of the A310, Türk Hava Yolları was strictly focused on Europe with only a handful Middle Eastern destinations such as Tripoli a
34 TK739ER : Wow time flies soooo fast,many good memories and many flights with TK A310s . I remember just like yesterday reading about the first deliveries of the
35 Bahadir : A310-300 Meric was the airplane that took me to US for the first time in my life. Got stuck in BRU for several hours because of a TWA 727 had an engin
36 Bahadir : I forgot to mention , I was shocked to find out that there are absolutely no RNAV departures or arrival in Turkey. Looks like DHMI (The directorate of
37 TK787 : In another life I would love to. Also looking at the website's opening page I realized that their graphic for Route Map is basically the same as the
38 LAXintl : Why shocked? You should well understand Ottoman bureaucracy. Anyhow, in all seriousness there has been a project going on for a few years now that wo
39 TK787 : Just checked in online to TK002 JFK-IST for tomorrow. I was able to change my seat and all. As of now it looks like 58% load in Y on the 332.
40 Nitepilot79 : Hos Geldiniz!
41 Bahadir : The load factor you see online is not very indicative of the actual load factor. You will see that in the airplane , part of the reason is Turkish pe
42 Post contains links Oa260 : May 6, 2009 Boeing and Turkish Airlines have signed an order for five Boeing 777-300ERs valued at USD$1.36 billion at current list prices, Boeing said
43 Post contains links LAXintl : Here is a treasure for some that might be interested. The Turkish Airlines 75th Anniversary book published last year is available for download online.
44 Stylo777 : how was your flight?
45 TK787 : The flight was fine. Only 132 pax in Y, so about 60% load in Y, J was better. I actually ran into a friend of mine at the airport, he was flying J. I
46 Bahadir : I reported it at the arrival on April 22nd too... It's amazing how stale the air is.. Major loss for otherwise nice airport..
47 OA260 : I hate those things, the only thing that I dont like about IST is the x ray to get into the terminal. Its so time consuming especially if you have so
48 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : Expansion of the IST-SIN flight to Jakarta... http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/english/finance/11584106.asp?scr=1
49 TurkishWings : It was about time....
50 Stylo777 : since when TK is flying to Canakkale CKZ and Usak USQ? Aren't these former Atlasjet routes? IST-CKZ IST-USQ the aircraft shown is an A319
51 Bahadir : Stylo, Atlas returned CRJ900s and pulled out of these markets. I think even A319 is an overkill for these routes, but this is Turkey..
52 Stylo777 : it's annoying they returned the CRJs as for me it means to fly to either ADB or CKZ to catch the bus for 3-4 hours to get home. they had this very co
53 Wing : I flew CKZ last week.A319 ,It was a nice weather with lots of good scenery.Still a difficult approach.Loads were OK. I feeel sorry but there is no ch
54 Stylo777 : why, what is the problem with the geography or do you rather mean topography?!? I didn't know that! I always thought the main reason is the Turkish p
55 Turkish350XWB : Does this mean that the expansion with the 2 expected ex-QR A332 are not assured? And that there is the option for 2 more A332's? That would make it
56 Wing : Thats one of the reasons but if the airlines find these airplanes profitable they wouldnt care about this. The reason is,many airports of our country
57 Bahadir : Wing, part of the problem is the procedures not being designed well for obstacles clearences etc. Unless the airport is in a black hole at the bottom
58 Wing : The 2 QR are tested by THY pilots and technic and found "not suitable" due to their engines.The Airbus factory now says they guarantee an overhaul en
59 777way : ACT operating atleast one A300F for Etihad cargo.
60 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : Let's see what happens... Hope they get them all! AEA numbers say that TK is 6nd biggest (in terms of carried passenger) airline (non-LCC) in Europe.
61 TK787 : Latest Jan-Apr results from TK: 12.05.2009 Ortaklığımızın Ocak-Nisan 2009 dönemine ilişkin trafik sonuçları aşağıdaki şekilde gerçekleş
62 Stylo777 : it's really good to see TK growing and growing. Looks like they really work hard and play hard! But I still don't understand the how?!? When others a
63 Bahadir : It was a blast to meet Wing and KilotAydin today You guys rock.. Now only if I can join your rank and file :P TK1979 tomorrow.. 777 all the way baby!!
64 Stylo777 : hahaha hilarious!
65 LAXintl : With due respect, I have to disagree. The RJ(plus props) can and should a place in Turkey. There are many dozen communities that can be linked point
66 TurkishWings : Shoot... I thought I'd be the first one... Which class will you be in? I am flying TK 1979 and 1980 on May 22-25 in C Why are the rest of us not info
67 Stylo777 : so the poor performance is more related to the Eastern airports as for Westturkey? The ones like Agri, Kars, Diyarbakir? Take LH as an example: event
68 Ankaraflyjet : I also think that AnadolJet should get a prop and start from/to Ankara from/to Eskisehir, Konya, Denizli, Uşak, Kayseri, Sivas and Tokat. The list ca
69 Bahadir : I couldn't leave Istanbul because of mom's health issues. I am here until the 19th. Maybe we can get together , again at Flyinn. I know 787 is not ava
70 TK787 : Bahadir is right, I would have love to meet all but unfortunately I am up to my neck with work in Turkey till the end of June. Have a cold one for me!
71 Emrecan : Is there something new regarding the rnwy 06-24?[Edited 2009-05-13 13:08:26]
72 TurkishWings : On Saturday, I am working until 15:00... I am free after wards until the Eurovision song contest begins though
73 777way : TK were to introduce A321 to Karachi when is that happening?
74 Wing : Its a good luck to have the Atlas 319's quickly on hand but there are other aspects with the selection of 319. If you are familiar with the performan
75 Post contains links Bahadir : AtlasJet's first A330.. Click the link for pictures.. http://www.airporthaber.com/v3/galeri/?mod=show&gal=157&pic=1
76 Bahadir : Wing, I am sorry mate, I have to side with LAXIntl on this. There is potential for a commuter like operation for an airline in Turkey. It has to have
77 AlitaliaMD11 : " target=_blank>http://www.airporthaber.com/v3/galer...pic=1 It's odd that the A330 is now painted in AtlasJet colors since it was originally painted
78 TK787 : I think they are planning on flying their first flight IST-AYT.
79 TurkishWings : Please let us know if you get any more info on that... I would be interested to try it out on a day trip
80 Turkish350XWB : ... and serve (from IST) yet served destinations (Athens, Sofia, Bucharest) at higher frequencies(4-5 times daily)... but the problem here would be t
81 Post contains links OA260 : Turkish Airlines plane lands safely after bird strike Istanbul: A Turkish Airlines domestic flight was forced to make an emergency landing after a flo
82 Post contains images LAXintl : Some bits of news: KTHY has a court case being heard in the UK this week challenging of ban on direct UK - Northern Cyprus flights. Another recent UK
83 Stylo777 : hopefully! the European destinations make sense to me, but Tripoli? Is the traffic between both cities more concentrated on business or leisure? nice
84 LAXintl : Well the Scandinavian markets are for the ethnic Bosnia diaspora who emigrated there during the war. For Libya I understand its for a few reasons. -Li
85 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : http://www.milliyet.com.tr/Ekonomi/S...Y,%20Cin%20seferlerini%20artiracak IST-PEK-PVG-PEK-IST (7 weekly) flight will be split to IST-PEK-IST (5 weekly
86 TK787 : Just flew Izair for the first time yesterday IST-ADB, and very pleased with them. Load was 95% and everyting was timely, and loved the pay per consump
87 OA260 : I support direct flights once Turkey upholds it customs agreement with the Republic of Cyprus. And all ports and airports are open to ALL Cypriot com
88 Post contains links CA : here is the first atlasjet A330 livery: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Atlas...irlines/Airbus-A330-223/1526447/L/
89 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blnus/28191962.htm TK getting a 4th B777-300ER from Jet Airways???
90 Turkish350XWB : Fleet overview shows the 6th A332 as being added to the TK fleet... Finally... Does it have the same interior as the others ones? What about the engin
91 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/yazarlar/11713812.asp?yazarid=41&gid=61 TK is introducing a Premium Economy Class instead of the F/C. It will be introduced
92 TK787 : Great news. Laxintl mentioned this before it was public. Premium Economy makes more sense than F. It would be a great option for me personally for JF
93 TK787 : Finally "22.05.2009, Turkish Airlines took delivery of two new lease Airbus A330-203 (TC-JNF and TC-JNG)"
94 TK739ER : Until the end of 2006, TK only had 7 longhaul aircraft (exl. 310s), today its 20 if the 4th 773ER deal works out with Jet. Its a nice growth in the fl
95 LAXintl : A couple hints
96 TK787 : New from TK website: "The Incorporation has decided to start operating from Antalya to/from Stocholm, Paris and Dusseldorf in the year 2009."
97 LAXintl : Also Jakarta to be added to the map, as an extension of Singapore.
98 Hardiwv : Any words on TK performance in GRU and DKR so far? This is the second month of the operation of TK newest international route and a landmark in TK his
99 LAXintl : I'll term the GRU route as "bit slow" but its still very young and likely suffering from bad timing due to global economies and the recently effects o
100 Hardiwv : Plus the TK incident in AMS which also undermined TK reputation internationally. In addition, both countries decided to open consulates in Sao Paulo
101 Post contains links Normie999 : THY has just announced expansion at Antalya I see - http://insidetraveller.co.uk/blog/ Are those other route mentions, eg to Glasgow, no longer on the
102 Wing : Big airlines doesnt effect too much from such incidents.The most recent examples are AirFrance A340,British B777,KLM 737,Lufthansa A320 and there are
103 Robcol99 : PEK and PVG is now split. 5 x a week to each. PVG is now served as non-stop. Both remain red eye flights. The new schedule is on the news page of TK's
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