N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 4310 times:
Greetings all.....
For those of you who may be interested, the complete Official Airline Guide schedules for London Heathrow Airport in July 1983 have just been posted at www.departedflights.com
I hope you enjoy.
Mods...that website is a free, non-profit site that provides historic data to aviation enthusiasts and has been referred to many times on a.net....please note...this post is to promote discussion on a.net and is not meant to be an advertisement. Thank you.
ACW367 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3913 times:
I believe only two aircraft types from that 1983 list are still plying thier trade to LHR today. BA Boeing 757-200 and Lufthansa A300. Although neither fleet has the 1983 models still flying. BA sold thier G-BIK* B752s and the oldest remaining Lufthansa A300 is a 1986 example.
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 2987 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3836 times:
Wow! Last time I passed through LHR was exactly in Jun-July 1983, to and from the US....I used to live in Mumbai back then......unfortunately, AI timetables don't seem to be on this website.....
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3541 times:
Quoting Brilondon (Reply 8): I love this reference but I did not see YYZ in the list from LHR on AC or did they all fly through YUL/YMX back then?
Brilondon, unfortunately I am not at home at the moment to check on that....however I am fairly sure the flights to YYZ DID make a stop enroute. I think I recall being suprised at the time that YYZ did not have nonstop flights when I was working on the site. I will check to make sure when I get home Thursday.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 10, posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3508 times:
Quoting N702ML (Reply 9): Quoting Brilondon (Reply 8):
I love this reference but I did not see YYZ in the list from LHR on AC or did they all fly through YUL/YMX back then?
Brilondon, unfortunately I am not at home at the moment to check on that....however I am fairly sure the flights to YYZ DID make a stop enroute. I think I recall being suprised at the time that YYZ did not have nonstop flights when I was working on the site. I will check to make sure when I get home Thursday.
That can't possibly be correct. AC started LHR-YYZ nonstop service (as did BA) long before 1983. In 1983 they had nonstops from LHR to YHZ/YUL/YYZ/YWG/YEG/YYC/YVR. It would have made no sense for AC not to have operated nonstop (and probably more than once daily then) to the largest city in Canada and by far the major origin/destination of LHR traffic, especially at the height of the peak summer season.
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3497 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10): That can't possibly be correct. AC started LHR-YYZ nonstop service (as did BA) long before 1983. In 1983 they had nonstops from LHR to YHZ/YUL/YYZ/YWG/YEG/YYC/YVR. It would have made no sense for AC not to have operated nonstop (and probably more than once daily then) to the largest city in Canada and by far the major origin/destination of LHR traffic, especially at the height of the peak summer season.
You may be correct and knowing YOU...you probably are...lol. I will correct the site when I get home Thursday night!
Speedbirdie From United Kingdom, joined May 2006, 899 posts, RR: 56 Reply 12, posted (4 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3471 times:
You know when I went to India for a few months back in 1982, my mum always told me
we flew TG direct to DEL. I never believed her until now! What an awesome
site! I wonder what reggies we flew on!
Who is but the form following the function of what, and what I am, is a Woman in a mask..
Wow, what a great website. For those of us who were spotters/enthusiasts in the late 1970s and early 1980s, it really brings back memories. Some of the old route maps and timetables.... you had to be there.
PS
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Aviateur, thank you so much....that means a lot. I put a lot of work into the website. What you are seeing is probably three years worth of work.
But you know what? I love working on the site...I love the online friends I have made because of site and I love that everyday I seem to learn something new.
LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22048 posts, RR: 51 Reply 15, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2921 times:
As always thank you for your dedicated efforts in posting these interesting snapshots of history.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
Avion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2350 times:
Quoting Speedbirdie (Reply 12): You know when I went to India for a few months back in 1982, my mum always told me
we flew TG direct to DEL. I never believed her until now! What an awesome
site! I wonder what reggies we flew on!
Find the Indian arrival date in your old passport (you still have it right!) and work out if the flight's mentioned.. chances are it won't be but you never know
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 15): As always thank you for your dedicated efforts in posting these interesting snapshots of history.
Hey LAXintl....it is always my pleasure. I am just getting ready to leave your fine city. I overnighted here last night. I can't imagine I am the only person who asks the front desk person: "Do any of these rooms overlook the runways? I want to watch the planes." LOL
LongHauler From Canada, joined Mar 2004, 4281 posts, RR: 36 Reply 18, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2122 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10): That can't possibly be correct. AC started LHR-YYZ nonstop service (as did BA) long before 1983.
As always, Viscount724 is correct. Air Canada has always had at least one daily YYZ-LHR-YYZ since the early 1960's. AC856 / AC857 has always been an icon in the airline, and the flight numbers have always endured.
The non-stops started with the L1049G (one way only), and have been operated by the DC-8-40/50/60, the L1011, B747, B767, A340, A330, B777 and continues to date.
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N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (4 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 1971 times:
Quoting LongHauler (Reply 18): As always, Viscount724 is correct. Air Canada has always had at least one daily YYZ-LHR-YYZ since the early 1960's. AC856 / AC857 has always been an icon in the airline, and the flight numbers have always endured.
Thanks, LongHauler....i shall have that corrected tomorrow night when i get home!
N702ML From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1737 times:
The site has been updated and Air Canada's Toronto service has been added. I, unfortunately, did not see that the "Toronto" listing continued onto another column in the OAG! It was daily service to Heathrow with either 747 or 747 Combi service.
Thanks for pointing it out and thanks for checking out the site!
Djb77 From UK - Scotland, joined Sep 2001, 214 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1650 times:
Thanks for posting all this data. I went to look at the arrivals information at LHR for my home airport in 1983, Aberdeen (ABZ) and was amazed to see that the Friday evening BA flight to LHR was actually scheduled on a TriStar. I remember years ago seeing photos of a British Airtours TriStar charter flight to Marocco at ABZ, but I didn't realize that BA sent their own metal up to. My parents were regulars on the BA run to LHR in the mid-80s - I'll have to ask if they ever flew on the TriStar from ABZ - must have been quite a take-off, with a 6,001 ft runway!
This site is fantastic, filled in loads of blanks in my flight diary from this (missing reg's) - does such exist for BHX, MAN and EMA so I can fill in the last few?