EGCC777LR From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 155 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4644 times:
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Hi All,
Just saw DL065 MAN - ATL depart off 23L at MAN this morning at around 11.30. All the international traffic for the US usually fly the WAL1 SID as far as I know but this one took a very strange departure routing. If it was following an SID it would have been closer (I think?) to a POL departure. But basically it climbed off 23L and made a right hand climbing turn flying back pretty parallel to the airport and continued climbing out to the East until it disappeared out of sight. It was a clear day at MAN and visibility was good so it was in visual range for quite a while. It must have nearly been over Leeds when it left view, climbing all the while, strange route for an ATL destined bird. A CO 752 followed as next departure and flew the STD WAL1 SID.
Anybody know why this was?
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EGCC777LR From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4277 times:
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Just got home and checked my charts, if it was following an SID it would have been a POL1Y which head North East from MAN rather than the easterly direction of the STD departure. I could understand a small deviation for spacing from ATC but this bird showed no sign of changing her north easterly track, I have to say that at first I thought it may have had a problem and was circling to land, but it hadnt returned in the half hour that I was there before I left.
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Londoncenter From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 108 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 4208 times:
Despite my username I am actually an air traffic controller at the Manchester Area Control Centre these days and can say you are probably correct in assuming the aircraft was on a POL departure. You are also correct in that most of the time US bound aircraft use the WAL SID, however, when the North Atlantic tracks are "north about", i.e. using tracks from 56N and higher for example, it is not at all uncommon for these aircraft to depart on POL SIDS. The aircraft is usually turned NE against arriving traffic from the MIRSI and ROSUN holds then once clear resumes a track towards POL/RIBEL/MARGO which from POL creates a track roughly heading 330 degress to the NNW and into scottish airspace. On a number of occasions I have even worked the VIR MCO departure on this route! Hope this helps.
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