Um....No! ORD is United's main hub. IAD is UA's gateway to the east (internationally). There really is no strategy behind all of the carriers. It's based on total cost to UA. The carrier that provides the lowest total cost based on cost drivers, including: cash transaction, on-time performance, UP scores, cost of defect, etc.
AVION826 From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 27 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4229 times:
ORD is much the same. You have SkyWest, Shuttle America, GoJet, TransStates, Mesa there. SkyWest will be having a much bigger chunk this summer at ORD. Just got the bid packet, 20 more lines for CA/FOs.
Come to think of it, Denver has the same amount of UAX carriers, though SkyWest holds the biggest share by a good margin.
Los Angeles and San Francisco are exclusively SkyWest.
Mjzair From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 392 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4189 times:
They may have also learned a lesson from the 2001 Comair strike.
Comair was the exclusive, or almost exclusive carrier for Delta out of CVG. The strike handcuffed Delta and forced the cancellation of all regional flights out of there.. With diversification, the strike of one carrier does not kill the airline.
Throw into the the confusion that Air Wisconsin does the ground handling for UAX at IAD and you have a huge number of regional operating at IAD for UA.
DurangoMac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4032 times:
Quoting AVION826 (Reply 7): ORD is much the same. You have SkyWest, Shuttle America, GoJet, TransStates, Mesa there. SkyWest will be having a much bigger chunk this summer at ORD. Just got the bid packet, 20 more lines for CA/FOs.
DEN also has the same airline mix.
OO is starting 7 new lines of Pro-Rate flying in June with most of it in ORD so 20 more lines of pilots is not a surprise.
NW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 488 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3971 times:
Delta Connection carriers in CVG:
Its been a common theme to have lots of regional carriers supplying feed out of a hub. This strategy theoretically allows the hub to operate with as little interruption as possible if one particular carrier can not provide service. For example, the ASA maintenance debacle last month, or the Comair strike a few years ago.
SLC seems to be the only DL hub that doesn't have a lot regional carriers to feed it. SkyWest has maintained relative dominance in SLC while the occasional intruders such as ASA, Mesaba, ExpressJet, etc. come and go rather quickly.
Deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3862 times:
Quoting OzarkD9S (Reply 12): When UA had all their eggs in the Atlantic Coast (later Independence Air) basket, they got caught with their pants down and had to scramble to replace the loss of ACA United Express flying.
Maybe UA doesn't want a repeat scenario.
That's a great point. Maybe no one carrier had enough excess capacity to cover all of IAD, so they had to portion it out to mulitple carriers?
Aviationnut12 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3551 times:
You can also add ExpressJet to the list of UAX carriers at IAD. I am scheduled to fly SAV-IAD in June on flight 5687 operated by an ERJ-145. Are they taking over some routes from Mesa, or just supplementing? We were scheduled on a Mesa CRJ at first.
Every choice is a step, steps become direction, direction determines destination
NW747-400 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 488 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3003 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 23): I want to say late spring/early summer 2007, but I'm not 100% sure. Maybe I'm confusing it with the B6 contract when B6 was having 190 teething issues?
No you are definitely correct. United did contract with ExpressJet in the very recent past. I can't remember when it was either. I'm guessing it was in summer 2007 because Mesa was having severe staffing issues at the time, and ExpressJet was contracted to provide temporary lift to relieve Mesa.
25 United1: Maybe that's where I'm remembering the "Mesa is having issues" from....thanks for the information.
26 DurangoMac: It was for the Spring Break 2007 and if I remember correctly it was because Mesa not being able to handle a short time increase in flying in IAD.
27 Azncsa4qf744er: Summer 2007, based out of IAD. The "union" deal, that's another TOTALLY different issue and thread. Unionized or not, the fact still remain, OO is th
28 DurangoMac: Thank you, that was exactly what I was trying to say and you did it so much better!
29 Goldenshield: Not to nit-pick, but they were conSECUTIVE years. (Although, given the administration, they were also conservative years.) Also, OO has ranked higher