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LH 747-400: New Service To MCO(Orlando)  
User currently offlineCrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1944 posts, RR: 5
Posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8897 times:

I heard it through the grapevine that LH will start bringing a 744 into MCO the last week of May for their daily service...Anyone out there know whats going on?? Is this temporary due to aircraft maintenance/shortage or is it the start of something really good!

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User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8855 times:

I did read on another thread that is just temporary. For some reason the demand for Business Class is massive at the end of this month (something like 120 booked on 1 flight alone!)
But it reverts back to the A-333 in June. (Im travelling on staff tickets 10June hopefully in J and its looking v good load wise for me right now)


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 2, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8821 times:

Looks like some sort of convention that week or something. It was original uploaded as an A346 for a few days and now is a 744.


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User currently offlineRobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8741 times:



Quoting SKORD (Reply 1):
(something like 120 booked on 1 flight alone!)

How can they have 120 bookings in business? Their 747s have how many business seats? 80?


User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8719 times:



Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 3):
How can they have 120 bookings in business? Their 747s have how many business seats? 80?

Exactly!! Hense the upgrade to the A-340-600 and now the B744. There is massive demand and they have upgraded to the largest a/c they have.


User currently offlineElBandGeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 759 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8711 times:

Darn, they couldn't bring it next week when I'm there

User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3009 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8624 times:



Quoting Robffm2 (Reply 3):
How can they have 120 bookings in business? Their 747s have how many business seats? 80?

thats a so called overbooking  Wink
but I think the numbers will go down a little bit, because of last minute cancelations and there are also 16 seats in First. The worst case would be a well compensated downgrade to Economy.


LH is pretty good in reacting in such cases. They did the same the years before in DTW and send a B747 during the Motorshow.


User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8594 times:



Quoting Stylo777 (Reply 6):
thats a so called overbooking

Not one i would like to have to deal with!!  Wow!

Ok... i have done some investigating and this is what i got.

LH operate FRA-MCO on a MON,WED,THU,FRI,SAT. All flights are operated by A-333.

From 27MAY-03JUN all flight ops by a B-744, and on 02JUN (tue) there appears to be a one-off extra flight, also by B-744. After that it goes back to normal schedule of 5days a week, A-333. All flight are scheduled as normal, 1805hrs into MCO and dept. at 1955hrs.

Can anyone post some pics of LH at MCO? I have looked and cant find any on here!  Smile


User currently offlineNwafan20 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 157 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8414 times:

There are some shots of the LH 333 posted over at Detroit Spotters:

http://www.detroitspotters.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=731&start=0

Enjoy the 744, the LH 744 is a beauty!



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User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8381 times:

Cooool!!!! Thanks for that! Those pics are fab as i will be arriving in MCO on LH in June for a 10day holiday! Funnily enough, i just booked our flights for Nov (2nd longhaul holiday of the year) , and we are flying out MCO-EWR on Jet Blue!!! My 2 favourite airlines, at my favourite location, in 1-go!!

Nwafan20.... u r a star!!!  Big grin


User currently offlineVegas005 From Switzerland, joined Mar 2005, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8236 times:

Who can afford this route? It generally runs 1000 dollars more than a 1 stop connection on any of the US airlines. I don't get LH and their pricing schemes.

User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8912 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8227 times:



Quoting Vegas005 (Reply 10):
Who can afford this route? It generally runs 1000 dollars more than a 1 stop connection on any of the US airlines. I don't get LH and their pricing schemes.

Well, if you've got so many J bookings that you need to upgrade the plane to a 747 to simply accommodate demand, then I'd guess that those folks in business class are paying for the flight and then some, so anything in Y would be just pure gravy.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8147 times:

There is a huge international medical convention (30,000+ doctors) in Orlando May 29th through June 2nd. That explains a lot, and the premium demand.


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User currently offlineSevenforty From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8099 times:

BA are sold out in Club on 27 May and the fare is £2615 on the 28th oneway. Returning sold out from the 1-3 June. 10x777 a week. Wish I was a Dr !!!

User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7335 times:



Quoting SKORD (Reply 7):
Can anyone post some pics of LH at MCO? I have looked and cant find any on here!

I've got the LH A333 and LH A346 at MCO pictures posted on myaviation.net and airport-data.com

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
There is a huge international medical convention (30,000+ doctors) in Orlando May 29th through June 2nd. That explains a lot, and the premium demand.

Does that mean a lot of private jets too that week?


User currently offlineWilld From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 6438 times:



Quoting Sevenforty (Reply 13):
BA are sold out in Club on 27 May and the fare is £2615 on the 28th oneway. Returning sold out from the 1-3 June. 10x777 a week. Wish I was a Dr !!!

Remember that could in part be due to the recent BA Club 2 for 1 sale that was for any long haul destination up to October. Its also worth noting that VS only offer 12 J seats per flight, so again J seats are rather limited. Couple this with the usual Summer rush at MCO and I would imagine its pretty normal for BA to have a full J cabin.

Great to see the 744 of LH in MCO- LH made a real smart move with this MCO service.


User currently offlineSevenforty From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 6100 times:

Quoting Willd (Reply 15):
Remember that could in part be due to the recent BA Club 2 for 1 sale that was for any long haul destination up to October. Its also worth noting that VS only offer 12 J seats per flight, so again J seats are rather limited. Couple this with the usual Summer rush at MCO and I would imagine its pretty normal for BA to have a full J cabin.

Bit of a coincidence wouldn't you say ? Believe me if BA was filling 2 777 Club World cabins a day to Orlando the route would be outta Gatwick and up the road on a jumbo before you could say Disney World in a nanosecond !!!

Summer rush ? Orlando in May/June ?

[Edited 2009-05-12 11:04:16]

User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 5248 times:



Quoting Sevenforty (Reply 16):

May/June is ALWAYS a good time to go to FL from the UK on staff tickets, loads are always very light. I have done it 3 times on VS ex MAN and both ways the flights have had 150+ empty seats


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 18, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 5023 times:



Quoting SKORD (Reply 7):
Can anyone post some pics of LH at MCO? I have looked and cant find any on here!

I've got shots on another popular site...(JP)

After MCO was downgraded to the A333, I guess they had a few days of overbookings in J class too.


User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4289 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4909 times:



Quoting SKORD (Reply 17):
May/June is ALWAYS a good time to go to FL from the UK on staff tickets, loads are always very light. I have done it 3 times on VS ex MAN and both ways the flights have had 150+ empty seats

Interesting.. I flew it in September (MCO-MAN-MCO) and it was pretty full in both directions, albeit a few opens seats. Less than 40 open seats is pretty good on a 744!

Always nice to see another 747 at Orlando! I wish BA sent one instead of the daily 777....



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33194 posts, RR: 71
Reply 20, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4849 times:



Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 18):
After MCO was downgraded to the A333, I guess they had a few days of overbookings in J class too.



Quoting Sevenforty (Reply 16):

Summer rush ? Orlando in May/June ?

Again, as stated, there is a medical convention in Orlando that weekend. 30,000+ doctors from all the world.



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User currently offlineStylo777 From Germany, joined Feb 2006, 3009 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4740 times:

so where does the 744 come from, I mean from which route? Or is it just a spare a/c?

User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4720 times:



Quoting Dazed767 (Reply 18):
I've got shots on another popular site...(JP)

What site is this? I would love to use a good photo as my Screensaver!!

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
Again, as stated, there is a medical convention in Orlando that weekend. 30,000+ doctors from all the world

I think that what sevenforty meant was that May/June is traditionally shows a lull in tourist and Business traffic to FL (especially from the UK) and there is usually no rush at all!! (the Convention however, has shown a one-off surge in demand)


User currently offlineBeertrucker From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4471 times:

It not just buisness right now or then either. Over at disney I would say most are people from Eroupe on vacation. I have met a lot who get on my bus going to and from Downtown Disney.


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