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Boeing Delivers 50th 767 To Japan Airlines‏  
User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12211 posts, RR: 18
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7561 times:
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Boeing delivered the 50th 767 jetliner to Japan Airlines (JAL), the fifth-largest 767 operator in the world.

The 767-300ER is the 404th Boeing airplane delivered to Tokyo-based JAL Group, a Boeing- and McDonnell Douglas-heritage customer since 1960.

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2009/q2/090511e_pr.html

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User currently offlineDanielb From Canada, joined May 2009, 56 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7526 times:

Wow!! What a great aircraft!! I've flown on a 767 several times and although I've never really been impressed by the esthetic side, I've always appreciated it as a smooth and comfortable bird. As for JAL kudos for them for sticking with Boeing for that long......I wonder if they get great deals on new planesby now?? (Joking!!)

User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5591 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7523 times:

May they be around a long time... newer 767s with the Signature Interior are, hands down, the most comfortable aircraft in the world for economy-class travel.

Wide 2-3-2 seats, enormous bins, tall ceilings... what's not to like?  cloudnine 


User currently offlineSKY1 From Spain, joined Apr 2006, 879 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 7531 times:

I know JL, NH and LA are the last 767-300ER customers so far but ...how many more 767's are left to be delivered?


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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7433 times:



Quoting SKY1 (Reply 3):
...how many more 767's are left to be delivered?

The freighter line has orders enough to keep the line open, but it's not likely there will be too many more pax orders in the future.



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User currently offline787seattle From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 641 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7396 times:



Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
Boeing delivered the 50th 767 jetliner to Japan Airlines (JAL), the fifth-largest 767 operator in the world

I never realized how few 767s were built. I always thought that there were at least 500 built.



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User currently offlineHa763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3663 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7362 times:
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Quoting 787seattle (Reply 5):
I never realized how few 767s were built. I always thought that there were at least 500 built.

973 767s have been delivered so far. This was JAL's 50th 767 and JAL's 404th Boeing/MD aircraft delivered.


User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7287 times:



Quoting 787seattle (Reply 5):
I never realized how few 767s were built. I always thought that there were at least 500 built.

Agreed, that statement was worded poorly and could cause confusion.

Boeing did not deliver "the 50th 767 jetliner" to JAL. Well, maybe they did, but not recently. "The 50th" 767 jet was delivered sometime in the early 1980s. They did, however, deliver JAL's 50th 767 jetliner.



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User currently offlineJlbmedia From United States of America, joined Jun 2002, 622 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 7256 times:



Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 7):
Agreed, that statement was worded poorly and could cause confusion.

How about.............Boeing Delivers JAL's 50th 767...............?



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User currently offlinePyrex From Portugal, joined Aug 2005, 4025 posts, RR: 28
Reply 9, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 7132 times:



Quoting Danielb (Reply 1):
I wonder if they get great deals on new planesby now?? (Joking!!)

Actually, you would be surprised. One of Boeing's main concerns about setting up a revenue-sharing model with Japanese manufacturers for the 787 was the idea that any pricing information they would give them on individual aircraft (highly sensitive information) would be passed on straight to the Japanese carriers, who would be able to see they were being taken for a ride. Boeing knows the Japanese carriers aren't going anywhere (Boeing does order a lot of parts from Japan, after all) and so it has no reason to give them good deals.



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User currently offlineOyKIE From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6611 times:

Congratulations to both Boeing and JAL! It is nice to see that the 767 still continous to come of the assembly line. The 767 is one of my favorite airplanes.  Smile Are there routes to day were the 767 would have the best operating economy? It is lighter than both the A330 and 787.

I am taking the liberty to put in a picture of JAL's 50th 767 from Boeing.




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User currently offlineFlyLKU From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 816 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6163 times:



Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
the fifth-largest 767 operator in the world.

If JAL has 50 and is 5th, who operates the largest fleet of 767's?



...are we there yet?
User currently offlineGolftango From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6059 times:



Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 11):
If JAL has 50 and is 5th, who operates the largest fleet of 767's?

AA, BA?


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6033 times:



Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 11):

If JAL has 50 and is 5th, who operates the largest fleet of 767's?

I'm fairly sure it's Delta.



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User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2248 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5972 times:

Well if you listen to some on this forum you would think these carriers like JAL don't know a thing, using "antiquated, outdated, outmoded aircraft" just because there are new models out there. In their minds, the 787 is already yesterday even though it hasn't flown, because the A350whatever is coming.

If an aircraft fits the market, makes money on the route, is standardized to many others in the fleet, just maybe the choice is smart.

I have always enjoyed the 767 in all forms. Shuttled on the AC762's Rapidair flights to Montreal and Ottawa too many times to count. Talk about work horses. Put a new A333 and a B763 with a new interior side by side and the choice for me is difficult. I would probably try to fly each one of the different legs. But then that is just my bum in the seat and not necessarily what makes the most money or financial sense for the airline on the route. Far more important than my opinion as to which my toushie likes best  tongue  .


User currently offlineGolftango From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5972 times:

Quoting JBirdAV8r (Reply 13):
I'm fairly sure it's Delta.

Delta has 96 767s, so they may be. AA has 73. ANA has 54. With JAL, these are the four largest 767 operators.

[Edited 2009-05-12 10:27:29]

User currently offlineKennyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 5820 times:



Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 11):
If JAL has 50 and is 5th, who operates the largest fleet of 767's?

I can't find any other sources but according to Wikipedia DL has the most 767s. I'll leave it to you to judge if the information is reliable or not.

Note that the numbers are old, as here JL is shown to have only 43 767's, and DL to have 99.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Boeing_767_operators

But apart from that DL has always been well-known for being a great and large 767 customer.



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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5659 times:

I don't see how JL isn't the 4th largest. They will be the fifth one UPS gets all of their planes, but right now, they are the fourth?


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User currently offlineATLFlyer323 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 617 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5478 times:



Quoting FlyLKU (Reply 11):
If JAL has 50 and is 5th, who operates the largest fleet of 767's?

Like other people said, I do believe it is Delta, and if not it sure seems like it. No matter what time of day you visit ATL it seems there are no less than 15-20 DL 767's somewhere around that airport.

~Brandon



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User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5359 times:

I wonder how the trip costs will compare to the early 787s?

User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 732 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5293 times:
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Quoting Ikramerica (Reply 17):
I don't see how JL isn't the 4th largest. They will be the fifth one UPS gets all of their planes, but right now, they are the fourth?

 checkmark  In order of numbers - DL, AA, ANA, JAL.


User currently offlineOykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 5026 times:

Why didn't it come with winglet?


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User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4930 times:



Quoting 777ER (Thread starter):
The 767-300ER is the 404th Boeing airplane delivered to Tokyo-based JAL Group, a Boeing- and McDonnell Douglas-heritage customer since 1960.

I particularly like this line. I guess all those DC-8s and DC-10s delivered to Japan Airlines count as "Boeings" even though both models were discontinued long before Boeing bought out MD.

Sometimes the public relations people at Boeing are so sharp they cut themselves.


User currently offlineKennyone From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4889 times:



Quoting Oykie (Reply 27):
Why didn't it come with winglet?

Winglets are not provided with the aircraft upon delivery and are optional. I'm assuming you're talking about the blended winglets for the 737, 757 and 767.

These are optional and are added to the aircraft after delivery if the airline requests them.

Kennyone



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User currently offlineOykie From Norway, joined Jan 2006, 2754 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (5 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4526 times:



Quoting Kennyone (Reply 31):
I'm assuming you're talking about the blended winglets for the 737, 757 and 767.

 checkmark 

Quoting Kennyone (Reply 31):
These are optional and are added to the aircraft after delivery if the airline requests them.

Is that the case for the 737NG as well or just on the 767?



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25 Borism : only 767, Boeing never offered winglets for that, only raked wingtips on 764. winglets available as an manufacturer option on 737 NGs (except -600).[
26 Eghansen : The 767-300 delivered to JAL was ordered in September 2006. Total orders for 2006-2008 was only 75. There are no orders at all so far for 2009. Only
27 Candid76 : Ironic then that despite JAL taking delivery of its 50th 767, its fleet of them has actually shrunk as two 767-300s (JA8234 and JA8235) have been sold
28 Cessna172RG : I thought JAL had more than 50 of these birds in their fleet already...guess I was wrong.
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