Platinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 543 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 24179 times:
Thank you for posting this, i was looking for it. Seems that the "can" belonged to LAN, but I could be wrong. Anyone else have links?
Platinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 543 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 24126 times:
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 24041 times:
Contrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 24011 times:
Rule #1 KEEP EVERYTHING OUT OF THE BUFFER ZONE!!!!!!!!! Zero Tolerance at my job for that.
Jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2021 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23988 times:
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Yikes! As my little sister would say "somebody is in twouble."
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Pilotboi From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 2366 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23904 times:
One of my co-workers and friends asked about this today. She asked about people walking in front of the engines after it pulled into the gate. I explained how after the engines are turned off, but may still be spinning, they don't create nearly the amount of suction as they do when they are actually running. I also included the classic DL L-1011 story. And today it seems to have repeated itself.
Quoting Copter808 (Reply 4): Am I the only one who doesn't see the "cart?" Looks like it just sucked the "can" which was probably empty.
That's the media using incorrect terminology. To be correct, the can was being pulled on a dolly, not a cart.
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 23748 times:
How much damage was done to the #1 engine? was that "can" sucked in far enough to damage the fan blades? Or will it mainly be damage to the engine cowling area?
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1252 posts, RR: 4 Reply 10, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23589 times:
Quoting Legacytravel (Reply 9): How much damage was done to the #1 engine? was that "can" sucked in far enough to damage the fan blades? Or will it mainly be damage to the engine cowling area?
Mark in MKE
AFAIK Luckily no damaged fan or the rest of the engine, but it will require a replacement of the engine inlet ring.
Legacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23501 times:
Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 10): AFAIK Luckily no damaged fan or the rest of the engine, but it will require a replacement of the engine inlet ring.
Qantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1252 posts, RR: 4 Reply 13, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 23326 times:
Aerobalance From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 4634 posts, RR: 51 Reply 18, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 22832 times:
People reporting aren't necessary always briefed on the right pronunciation. And non-aviation buffs aren't going to know the difference between J-A-L and JAL. She probably didn't even know it stood for Japan Airlines, just that the plane was heading to Japan.
Speedbrds From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 98 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 21786 times:
I'm at LAX right now waiting for my flight to board and when I arrived earlier, I was wondering why there was a JAL 744 parked usually where Qantas parks their aircrafts. Very interesting!
LoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3638 posts, RR: 38 Reply 21, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 21725 times:
Quoting Aerobalance (Reply 18): Container, cart, handbags, filler truck, whatever. All things that should not be in any jet engine.
Platinumfoota From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 543 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 20577 times:
At least in the DL incident it was their own can. Since the can belonged to LAN I wonder who will pay for the expenses. Maybe the Ramp Contractors? LAN? JAL?
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25 Skoker: Yep it sure did: (picture from FailBlog.org, hence the big "FAIL" on there =/
26 Imag: http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...y/0,21985,25467737-5012748,00.html another view of the story...
27 Cloudyapple: Imagine if it was a B777 with a much larger engine diameter. The LD3 would have gone straight in and destroyed the fan blades.
28 Silver1SWA: Why does some know-it-all always have to come in early on in these threads with this kind of comment?! You do not know that, no one knows that includ
29 DocLightning: Yeah, that was a fail. They're lucky it's just the can and inlet ring and not the fan. Does JAL use GE or PW engines? OK, and I'm terribly sorry, but
30 Airbuseric: Amen for that! Indeed! What IF the container was blown from a storage area by strong winds? These LD3 containers are aluminium and weight is between
32 Legacytravel: First of all who said I was a know it all. I spoke my belief that someone should be fired for this. I stand by the comment. If they are not fired the
33 Geo772: No need as this then highlights that the container should be properly secured. Anyway fortunately these incidents are few and far between, but it sho
34 Smi0006: I noticed it is a QF branded tug, who else do they provided this service to does anyone know? I know QF are handeled by Hallmark which I beleive they
35 Ha763: At LAX, there is a service road that runs around all the terminals and is located in between taxiways B/C and D/E. The road crosses across the taxiwa
36 Airbuseric: Of course, if this played a role in the incident, then of course, the container should have been properly secured on a rack or cart. But here in AMS,
37 LNv22: Video on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rK03nnIKfNY
38 Silver1SWA: I based my comment on the nature of that statement which came off more as fact instead of your personal belief. Similar statements pop up in every th
39 Legacytravel: I supposed that I could have worded my statement better. Your questioning was valid. I digress. Mark in MKE
40 Smolt: What the hell! But this is often the case. I too accidentally let the cleaner vacuum up the counterpart of my socks...
41 Airbuseric: On the mentioned youtube video we can see that the aircraft suffering this incident is JA8922.
42 Fxramper: Correct. It's an LD3 or AKE. Have seen the same problem with DL, FX, and KE a/c before. Witnessed ramp crew at NRT incorrectly spin a LD3 on a mated
43 AirNZ: Why aren't we always so quick to correct inaccuracies, grammar and spelling from any of the 'experts' here on a.net as well....and some of those are
44 JAL: Wow! Who would be responsible for the damage to the engine? LAX?
45 L410Turbolet: " target=_blank>http://cbs13.com/watercooler/lax.bag....html Amazing what sort of non-event is considered a "BREAKING NEWS" by the media...
46 Zentraedi: If you expected her to use the most common name for the airline, "Ja-Ru", then you would have had a lot of confused viewers.
47 Hiflyer: First and foremost...whether service road or apron or on the gate no container should be anywhere near a running engine...period....even if the aircra
48 FlyLKU: Shoot, if that had been BA or Cathay they would have continued on to a maintenance base for repairs.
49 Grimey: If thats the case then can the aircraft fly back to Japan or does it have to get repaired in LAX? Grimey
50 Theginge: ???? Not if they were still on the ground as per the JAL, would have done exactly the same and either repaired it or if not flown a 3 engine ferry ba
51 AM744: Good one Ahh, the good old unwritten rule... "Well, you can't actually do the job, so you'll just watch over the guys that can".
52 Azncsa4qf744er: Will JL ferry in another B744 for those stranded passengers off JL062/11MAY or re-booked them on other airlines? Saw JL B744 sitting over at the Qanta
53 Theginge: I imagine as LAX - Japan is a well served route they will be booked on other airlines, either from LAX direct or via somewhere else rather than sendi
54 FlyLKU: Sorry, it was a joke referring to a couple of incidents where BA and Cathay continued flying a 747 on 3 engines (perfectly legal by the way) to get t
55 Rampart: I've always used "J-A-L". I don't recall speaking with any normal person about flying "Jal to Tokyo", it's more usually J-A-L. Nor did I ever take Tw
56 B747forever: True. Remember when BA flew from LAX to LHR with only 3 engines!
57 Jbernie: Thats not much fun.... now if it had gone into the #2 engine on top then I would have paid to see that, seems like almost anyone can toss one of thos
58 Ua777222: If I recall correctly, they could have turned back to LAX and been fine but thought it alright to proceed and ended up encountering some strong headw
59 B747forever: Yes they could have turned back to LAX, because the engine stopped to work moments after take off from LAX. Also they had to land at MAN because they
60 SwivelHeadLAX: Apparently after the baggage can ingestion, they were towing the disabled aircraft to have it inspected when the towbar broke. The aircraft then rolle
61 Tradewinds: While I'm a big news fan, the media really needs to can the guy who got the terminology wrong. He was obviously putting the horse before the cart, and
62 Viscount724: I agree re "Twa", but it is very common, at least in informal airline industry jargon, to refer to Japan Airlines using "Jal", pronounced as a word.
63 Rampart: OK, that's fine. But while most here know that, many outside the industry wouldn't refer to the acronym. It isn't something I'd fault a journalist (o
64 Towcrazy: Isn't there a rule about taxing only on the inside engines?
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