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LH B744 Fleet Gets PTV  
User currently offlineLHBSL From Switzerland, joined Mar 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7746 times:

Great News: LH will refit the Y Class in the newer (means the latest 20 frames delivered...)B744 withe the new seats with PVT!

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User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 701 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7741 times:

Does it mean that they have finished retofitting all their A340-600 by now? I remeber once having read that the B747 will be done thereafter. And what about their A340-300 and A330?


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User currently offlineLHBSL From Switzerland, joined Mar 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7726 times:



Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 1):
Does it mean that they have finished retofitting all their A340-600 by now? I remeber once having read that the B747 will be done thereafter. And what about their A340-300 and A330?

Hi Tobias

all A346 will be refitted by the end of may; the A343's are now in maintenance for the new cabin and all the A333 have allredy the PTV's.

regards


User currently offlineAustrianZRH From Austria, joined Aug 2007, 1340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 2 weeks ago) and read 7712 times:



Quoting LHBSL (Reply 2):
Hi Tobias

all A346 will be refitted by the end of may; the A343's are now in maintenance for the new cabin and all the A333 have allredy the PTV's.

In a MUC forum there is this thread, where post #3 gives an overview on which aircraft are equipped with PTV by type and registration. All A333 and A346 have PTV, according to that source, with the A343 of FRA and DUS bases being completed by June. MUC-based A343 will be completed in the beginning of 2010!



WARNING! The post above should be taken with a grain of salt! Furthermore, it may be slightly biased towards A.
User currently offlineSeemyseems From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 967 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 7351 times:

Will the new seats be similar to the A340 ones?

KL's B744's are getting PTV's too.



seemyseems
User currently offline123 From Bolivia, joined Nov 2003, 743 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7135 times:

Any infos when GRU/FRA service with PTV equiped 744's will start?

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7085 times:
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Maybe I go to EZE with them in october... A pitty it's not the A346. Such flight can seem so long without PTV !! Unless I'm luck to get THE 747 with PTV  Wink


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User currently offlineSevenforty From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6920 times:

Got nothing against LH but isn't it about time ?

UA and LH both in Star, not much fun down the back if you end up travelling from the States to Frankfurt with UA then on with LH.


User currently offlineCaspritz78 From Germany, joined Aug 2007, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 6663 times:

I don't believe this until I see the first pictures of a LH 747 with PTV in Y.

User currently offlineLHFADUS From Germany, joined Apr 2007, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6538 times:



Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
Great News: LH will refit the Y Class in the newer (means the latest 20 frames delivered...)B744 withe the new seats with PVT!

Sorry, not meaning to be a kill-joy, but do you got any sources for that?


User currently offlineLHBSL From Switzerland, joined Mar 2007, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6394 times:



Quoting LHFADUS (Reply 9):
Sorry, not meaning to be a kill-joy, but do you got any sources for that?

of course  Wink
I suppose the "official" info will be soon released.

RGDS


User currently offlineHardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6384 times:



Quoting 123 (Reply 5):
Any infos when GRU/FRA service with PTV equiped 744's will start?

GRU already gets the A346 with PTVs on MUC-GRU.

Rgs,


User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17004 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6316 times:

Well I hope that LH will send these 20 744s on their longer routes that are operated by the 744.


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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6284 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 12):
Well I hope that LH will send these 20 744s on their longer routes that are operated by the 744.

well, I guess by the time the upgrade is completed they will start replacing their older 744s by the newly arriving 748s anyway..... keep in mind that they still got almost a year until they plan to be finished with the 343s....



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17004 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6280 times:



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 13):
well, I guess by the time the upgrade is completed they will start replacing their older 744s by the newly arriving 748s anyway..... keep in mind that they still got almost a year until they plan to be finished with the 343s....

So LH doesn't plan to put on any PTVs on their 744s until the whole 343 fleet is done?



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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6175 times:



Quoting B747forever (Reply 14):
So LH doesn't plan to put on any PTVs on their 744s until the whole 343 fleet is done?

While I have no means of having confirmed knowledge about this, I would be highly surprised if they did.... their maintenance is busy doing the 343s right now, so why should they mess up things further by starting the next task before the previous one is done? They also didn't start working on the 343s until they had finished the 333s and 346s....



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User currently offlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17004 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6168 times:



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 15):
While I have no means of having confirmed knowledge about this, I would be highly surprised if they did.... their maintenance is busy doing the 343s right now, so why should they mess up things further by starting the next task before the previous one is done? They also didn't start working on the 343s until they had finished the 333s and 346s....

Okay, I see.

Does anyone know for how long LH intends to fly the 20 newest 744s?



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User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5903 times:

Interesting... they have 17 pre-1992 birds and 13 post-1996 birds. Even the last of those earlier birds will be pushing 100,000 hours within three years. I'm surprised they aren't sticking only to the last 13, which probably have 7-14 years of service left in them.


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User currently offlineSKORD From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 562 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

I will still avoid them like the Plague!! I love LH... but no Y 744 travel for me!

User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5877 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 17):
Interesting... they have 17 pre-1992 birds and 13 post-1996 birds. Even the last of those earlier birds will be pushing 100,000 hours within three years. I'm surprised they aren't sticking only to the last 13, which probably have 7-14 years of service left in them.

well, let's wait until we see an official announcement... I'm kinda sceptical, to be honest...



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User currently offlineMercure1 From French Polynesia, joined Jul 2008, 1131 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5699 times:



Quoting Sevenforty (Reply 7):
UA and LH both in Star, not much fun down the back if you end up travelling from the States to Frankfurt with UA then on with LH.

UA not putting PTV's in Y on the 744s was a mistep, imo.


User currently offlineCPH-R From Denmark, joined May 2001, 5911 posts, RR: 3
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 5666 times:

LH with PTV's?  faint 

What's next? NW retiring their DC9's? CO ordering Airbus?!

 Wink


User currently offlineAznMadSci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3635 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5398 times:



Quoting CPH-R (Reply 21):
CO ordering Airbus?!

No moreso CO receiving their 787s in this lifetime!  Wink

Quoting LHBSL (Thread starter):
Great News: LH will refit the Y Class in the newer (means the latest 20 frames delivered...)B744 withe the new seats with PVT!

When do they plan to start the installation? And just to confirm, are the PTVs in Y AVOD?



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User currently offlineDLH405heavy From Germany, joined Jan 2005, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 5177 times:



Quoting Hardiwv (Reply 11):
GRU already gets the A346 with PTVs on MUC-GRU.

This flight has been an A343 for a while now and according to current scheduling will be in the winter timetable, too.



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User currently offlineLHFADUS From Germany, joined Apr 2007, 98 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4834 times:



Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 19):
well, let's wait until we see an official announcement... I'm kinda sceptical, to be honest...

me too...LH's A333s, A343s and A346s was kinda predicatble, thus not so much a surprise to me, especially because the Y seats on A333s and A346s already had that "hole" in the back from the beginning.
But from the day LH started introducing PTVs in Economy, LH always said their B744s were not intended to receive it. Maybe they changed their minds after all, after the delays in A380 and B748i.
I'm still sceptical about this.  scratchchin 


25 AustrianZRH : Now I'll throw a huge can of oil into the fire: 20 744 are supposed to get PTVs, indicating they will fly some more. 20 748 are on order. That may ind
26 LHFADUS : Exactly my thought. Except for the cancelling. A380s are delayed too and they did not cancel. So why would they cancel delayed B748i's?
27 AustrianZRH : Which is why I wrote
28 LHBSL : hey guys, don't be so sceptical I don't know the exact schedule of the refitting of the cabin but the Executive committee decided to do it... should
29 Hypercott : Whenever I read these PTV threads, I find it very surprising, how important PTVs/AVOD really are for the common traveler. TV addiction really goes thr
30 AustrianZRH : Yes, read about 5000 pages of books up to now this year. In the environment of an airplane, though, I develop a headache pretty fast when reading a b
31 Airbazar : I had the same exact thought. From the start they stated that the 744's would not receive PTV's because they were due to be replaced by A380s and 748
32 Jtdieffen : Perhaps we're speculating too hard here. Lufthansa has 30 747s only 20 of which will be refitted. The first 748 isn't due to come online for almost t
33 123 : a) I read books; b) I am not TV addict; c) I like the PTV/AVOD for the simple reason that I enjoy watching Flightline or whatever they call it on dif
34 LY777 : Talking about LH 744s: when the 744s will be gone, the TLV route will be operated with which a/c type?
35 Warren84 : well, if they're showing new films that I would normally go see at the cinema, then i'll watch them. MIght as well save $30-40 and watch them on board
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