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User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1654 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18003 times:

CNN just broke in to Larry King live to show dramatic footage of a SW 737-300 with landing gear on fire and people jumping out on chutes.

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User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1654 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18005 times:

THe plane was rolling out after landing when this happened, just to add

User currently offlinePmg1704 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 162 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18009 times:

According to Breaking News on Twitter:

The right landing gear of Southwest Airlines flight 519 caught fire upon landing at Houston's Hobby Airport; no injuries have been reported.

KTRK-TV: Southwest Airlines plane catches fire on landing at Hobby Airport in Houston; passengers evacuated. No further info at this time.


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17937 times:

And here is a photo..... Looks like a tire went....


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User currently offlineSkedGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 137 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17802 times:
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Quoting Deltaflyertoo (Thread starter):
CNN just broke in to Larry King live to show dramatic footage of a SW 737-300 with landing gear on fire and people jumping out on chutes.

Looks like it's actually a -300 rather than a -700. The flight is scheduled STL-BHM-MSY-HOU.


User currently offlineStillageek From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 73 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17845 times:

Here's a video of the whole thing

http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/local&id=6809973

My question...why was the news helicopter filming THIS plane land? Wasn't on fire prior to landing. Lucky shot?

Also I am annoyed at all the PAX taking briefcases, computers, bags WITH them down the slide. One guy actually slid down AFTER his briefcase.....papers fly all around.


User currently offlineSkedGuy From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 137 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17753 times:
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Quoting SkedGuy (Reply 4):

Ignore post above. I see that the original poster noted it was a -300. My bad.


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17704 times:

My dad just called me from HOU while witnessing the incident from the terminal, said the pax have evacuated and the fire trucks have rolled.

Thought I might have an a.net scoop but you guys are fast!



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17629 times:



Quoting Stillageek (Reply 5):

My question...why was the news helicopter filming THIS plane land? Wasn't on fire prior to landing. Lucky shot?

I was kind of wondering the same thing...  scratchchin 


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17630 times:



Quoting Stillageek (Reply 5):
My question...why was the news helicopter filming THIS plane land? Wasn't on fire prior to landing. Lucky shot?

Maybe the previous station found some rubber parts which looked like a possible blown tire on take-off, alerted the ATC facilties and flight crew so a precautionary/emergency was declared which would have the emergency crews on stand-by, as well as the call alerting the media helicopters. Not too much of a lucky shot then I would offer!

Quoting Deltaflyertoo (Thread starter):
dramatic footage

Calm down....dramatic footage was the Hudson landing.



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User currently offlineIgneousrocks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17575 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 9):
Maybe the previous station found some rubber parts which looked like a possible blown tire on take-off, alerted the ATC facilties and flight crew so a precautionary/emergency was declared which would have the emergency crews on stand-by,

Hmmm. it took the fire crews almost 3 minutes arrive. I think if they would have had a heads up, they would have been on top of this fire immediately.


User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 3061 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17539 times:



Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 9):
Maybe the previous station found some rubber parts which looked like a possible blown tire on take-off, alerted the ATC facilties and flight crew so a precautionary/emergency was declared which would have the emergency crews on stand-by, as well as the call alerting the media helicopters. Not too much of a lucky shot then I would offer!

That is good question of why they were filming. I watched the video timer and it was several minutes after the plane stopped with several breaks in the video before firecrews arrived. I would guess if there was an emergency declared before landing that the firecrews would have been in position much sooner.

Okie


User currently offlineLegacytravel From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1067 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17539 times:

I would guess that the hydraulics line ruptured and caught fire from the break heat.

The fire looks small enough, we could all gather around and pee on the fire to put it out.  drunk 

Seriously it does not look like a big deal. Media sensation again.

Mark in MKE



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17462 times:



Quoting Igneousrocks (Reply 10):
Hmmm. it took the fire crews almost 3 minutes arrive. I think if they would have had a heads up, they would have been on top of this fire immediately.


I sit corrected......I didn't watch the video as I saw it reported on the local station ABC13.

You are correct, the fire folks would have been at the stand-by locations which they certainly were not due to the 3 minutes! I owe ya!



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User currently offlineSWABrian From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 299 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17457 times:

Here are the latest details we have, there were no injuries, and the passengers were evacuated in an orderly manner. Buses are taking them to the terminal, and we are holding four connecting flights for them. One or two Customers requested a medical "look" and an ambulance was called to the aircraft--again no injuries. Our Mechanics are changing the tire so the aircraft can be moved off the runway.

Brian Lusk
Southwest Airlines


User currently offlineTISTPAA727 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 329 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17459 times:
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Quoting Igneousrocks (Reply 10):
Hmmm. it took the fire crews almost 3 minutes arrive. I think if they would have had a heads up, they would have been on top of this fire immediately.

I am still surprised it took 2:20 for fire trucks to get there and start putting out the fire. Is this normal/a good response? Could very well be and I just don't know.

Also surprised it took so long for passengers to start deplaning and then they all gathered next to the plane (especially that moron who got off and started taking pictures - OK, I'd be tempted to do the same).



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17432 times:



Quoting Okie (Reply 11):
That is good question of why they were filming.

The video looks more like some spotters where at HOU taking pics etc., and stumbled upon the landing. But that is only my small minded speculation!  Smile



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User currently offlineFLYjoe From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17435 times:

How about the guy going down the slide about the 4:10 mark. It looks like he threw his briefcase down first, then he slid. When he got to the bottom, his case opened and he's chasing floating papers on the runway.  no 

User currently onlineB747forever From Sweden, joined May 2007, 17067 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17428 times:



Quoting SWABrian (Reply 14):
Our Mechanics are changing the tire so the aircraft can be moved off the runway.

Do you know how much this has/will affect the operations at Hobby? Is the airport back on normal operations?



Work Hard, Fly Right
User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17406 times:



Quoting TISTPAA727 (Reply 15):
Also surprised it took so long for passengers to start deplaning and then they all gathered next to the plane

Normally you don't open the chutes to get passengers off until the someone outside the airplane verifies exactly where the fire is located in case it spread. Not a good idea to open the doors only to find the fire right at that exit.



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User currently offlineSeaBosDca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5518 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17382 times:

Not a lot of extra ground clearance with a blown tire, is there?  wideeyed 

User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2353 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17319 times:



Quoting SeaBosDca (Reply 20):
Not a lot of extra ground clearance with a blown tire, is there?

Would a blown tire really cause that much lower clearance? Now a collapsed landing gear would be another thing...



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User currently offlinePhelpsie87 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 498 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17269 times:



Quoting Stillageek (Reply 5):
Also I am annoyed at all the PAX taking briefcases, computers, bags WITH them down the slide. One guy actually slid down AFTER his briefcase.....papers fly all around.

Not only that, but he sits on the slide and stays in the way picking up said papers...


User currently onlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2363 posts, RR: 22
Reply 23, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17242 times:

Does anyone know what tail number this plane is?


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User currently offlineF9darol From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (5 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17240 times:

Kudos to the entire crew! Glad to hear that everyone is safe and sound!

25 BEG2IAH : He endangered everyone else's evacuation. Just imagine if this was a more serious incident and this moron was chasing his briefcase. This guy should
26 F9Animal : It really depends on the communications too. I mean, it could have taken a minute or more after fire was realized to contact fire rescue. Actually, 2
27 IAHFLYR : Very true. The airplane lands and the crew on roll-out recognizes a fire in the main gear, they tell the tower controller who tells the Supervisor an
28 Khobar : That would be against union rules. That was funny - all that effort to save his briefcase and it flies open at the bottom. Karma? He endangered no on
29 VC10er : In the first "BREAKING NEWS" report on CNN with Anderson Cooper i caught (about an hour ago) said "the pilot reported some kind of problem just before
30 Airstatdfw : The first truck has 3 mins to get to the spot of the call, once it gets ringed down from the tower, that was the reason for the delay. The tower pick
31 Spinkid : I was surprised it took them that long to deplane myself. I imagine if I was a passenger and I saw fire outside the window, I'd be tempted to open the
32 MtnWest1979 : LOL I wish WN had 767s.
33 DiamondFlyer : I couldn't tell you if it is a normal/good response, but all that is required for certification is 3 minutes. So, they had the required time beat by
34 AirframeAS : It is a 733. The 3 flap system gives it away.
35 Post contains links and images SXDFC : I guess to answer my own question after looking at the video, it looks like the plane is N371SW: View Large View MediumPhoto © Mark Kopczak
36 Lexy : Good grief man. Get a grip seriously. Yes, it was wrong of him to do what he did, but it wasn't the end of the world. Everyone is okay and all is wel
37 Adam42185 : I just saw a headline on a news website stating that "PLANE CATCHES ON FIRE, PASSENGERS FLEE" and immediately turn to a.net to see what REALLY happen
38 OPNLguy : As I've observed many times before, the initial reports in the immediate aftermath of any event are frequently in error...
39 D L X : I'm pretty sure he said "there's no word about whether the pilot reported some kind of problem just before landing."
40 F9Animal : My point of view!!!! Actually, I doubt anyone saw fire from the cabin. You can't see the main gears from the cabin windows. Also, there was not much
41 Floorrunner : Southwest does not have 767's
42 D L X : This makes me wonder. At what point did the pilots shut the engines down? What if the passengers had initiated an evacuation and ended up in front of
43 LoneStarMike : I doubt anyone saw fire, but I'll bet quite a few people behind the wing saw the smoke. There was a lot of white smoke just after the plane touched d
44 USAFDO : Saw the video and cannot believe how long the Captain waited before ordering an evacuation...... That was way way to long to be on fire with all those
45 Drerx7 : As was said...no one onboard knew the plane was on fire.
46 SASD209 : I just listened to the tower audio, and the first mention of a problem on that recording was the tower mentioning a fire to the crew and calling out
47 G4maddog : All crewmembers are doing fine in HOU tonight. Thanks for all the concern and kind words. Just very happy that nobody got injured!
48 PITrules : Perhaps it took a moment for the tower to confirm the gear was on fire, and then to communicate that information to the crew. The cockpit crew would
49 UAL757 : The guy with the briefcase at 3:57 WHAT A TOOL!
50 G4maddog : Right on the money!
51 BMI727 : It is definitely a -300. The 737NG has only single slotted flaps. A real genius.
52 Legacytravel : We would have had panicking idiot ingestion. Mark in MKE
53 OyKIE : After first reading the thread and then looking at the video I have to say the guy with the suitcase did not sit there for long, and a fireman comes q
54 USAFDO : Actually the Local Controller signed on for the RWY the SW 737 landed on was responsible for immediately transmitting to the pilot...with out delay; "
55 Post contains links LoneStarMike : According to this article, the initial PA announcement by the captain to the passengers said the plane had a flat tire. Shortly after that, a passenge
56 LHR380 : Maybe the helo just happened to be in the right place at the right time. If you notice, it films a perfect landing then zooms out, notices the white s
57 QualityDr : Seems that flyers don't pay enough attention to safety briefings or cards. In this case, several people came down the slide with their bags. Amusing
58 LH526 : Right! Excellent work by the crew, both cabin and cockpit! And about that briefcase idiot: I bet that if somebody slid down the slide after him, cras
59 LH526 : I bet the aircrafts bank angle combined with screetching metalic sounds during landing and possible slight smell of burned rubber and alloy after the
60 IAHFLYR : Respectfully, the local controller would have been taking care of traffic issues once the emergency equipment had been alerted, not transmitting ever
61 Part147 : Glad it wasn't worse than this, Sure, but you've got to admit it is funny - ah! people do the funniest things - stressed or not! Okay, I know some of
62 SWABrian : Now that things have calmed down, I have some more info for you. There was no advance notice of any problems, and the tire popped upon landing. No eme
63 Gr8Circle : I saw the footage on CNN this morning and one of the newsreaders (who'd probably seen the footage prior to the news broadcast) was commenting to the o
64 Readytotaxi : I could count at least 10 people carrying some kind of hand luggage now the slide, unbelievable idiots.
65 PITingres : Quite frankly, I would suggest eliminating the "how to buckle a seat belt " portion of the safety announcement, and replacing it with a couple senten
66 Post contains links and images IgneousRocks : Briefcase guy has been admonished, but what about girl with puppy? http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/6421272.html
67 Flanders : So many passengers with carry-on stuff on the slides... Makes me angry!
68 D L X : Oh man. I'm actually torn on that one... puppies are supposed to be in the area beneath the seat in front of you, so she probably was not blocking an
69 QualityDr : There's a good one! However, what if it's a business computer? Value of the hardware and software? Or the business info contents? That last one could
70 FlyingSicilian : IIIRC, t is there because countless after accident investigations have found people still buckled in to seats, with broken thumbs or fingers trying t
71 Twinotter : If you consider a wheel fire and evacuation on the tarmac so routine that you blast the media for even daring to report it, why do you suppose there
72 Av8orwalk : Interestingly enough, Southwest does not allow pets to be carried in the cabin. Must have been a "service puppy". Or maybe the puppy was in a waiting
73 Braniff747SP : fantastic! WN long haul! *Wonders if they will serve PBJ instead of just peanuts*
74 Vatveng : Exactly. They were probably on a house fire story or something like that, and returning to base and happened to be in the general vicinity of Hobby.
75 Tylerdurden : Since they waited for five minutes to determine they should evacuate...and the plane was only a third full....I'd find it pretty much expected that f
76 BEG2IAH : Yes, everything came out good this time, but I'm not sure you would be saying this if you were the ones evacuating a burning plane and you had a clog
77 BlueFlyer : Passenger-in-a-hurry, meet powerful-engine. Not a happy marriage. These things don't stop on a dime usually. Remember the freight container and the 7
78 Post contains links RichM : I understand where you're coming from. I woulddn't want to leave my dog on the plane either. Only problem is that he'd be a tad more difficult to car
79 IgneousRocks : You'd probably feel different if she were blocking your path to the exit trying to retrieve her pet.
80 Skygirl : I used to agree with you and I have always made fun of the fact that we have to go through and teach how to use the most simple peice of equipment on
81 Unmlobo : We're all admonishing briefcase guy, and likely rightfully so, but how does one get their belongings back after an emergency? Not all of the belonging
82 ARFFdude : The regulation is actually that we have three minutes to reach the midpoint of the farthest runway from time of the initial call.
83 Cytz_pilot : I figure it's more legal than anything. Plane hits heavy turbulence, passenger without fastened seatbelt gets hurt and tries to sue airline for not s
84 BMI727 : For that matter I bet a lot of people from third world countries have never used a seatbelt before. If I had an airline I'd cut that clip out and put
85 D L X : Pets are kept in the space beneath the seat in front of you. It was probably in her arms before she got to the aisle, and thus didn't block anyone. W
86 OPNLguy : We're talking about two different animals here. The China Airlines 737 fire occurred as a result of a puncture to a wing fuel tank (from the L/E slat
87 IAHFLYR : Thanks!
88 David L : Does anyone seriously believe a small cat or dog should be left on the aircraft in such circumstances? If anyone doesn't understand the relationship
89 Live2fly83 : I know right? watched one guy chase his papers as they flew in the direction of the fire!? IF AN AIRPLANE IS ON FIRE YOUR LIFE IS YOUR PRIORITY NOT P
90 300cap : F/A's should of enforced the "leave the carry-ons behind" policy. The guy with briefcase and flying papers should of been shoved out of the way to all
91 TylerDurden : Not likely. Southwest will determine cause internally....and will file an incident report with the appropriate agencies. They can ask for assistance
92 Litz : Common sense or not, if you're a FA at the door, and your job is to get people down that chute as fast as possible ... are you gonna send the guy w/t
93 BACCALA : That evacuation took for ever and a day!!!
94 Brons2 : They could have a self-service PB&J station with cans of peanut butter and jelly, some loaves of bread, and a hand sanitizing station.
95 RoseFlyer : The requirement is for the aircraft to remain safe with no danger to passengers without any external support for at least 5 minutes after a full ener
96 Flashmeister : Because no laptop or briefcase contains anything that entitles someone to potentially impede the evacuation of a burning aircraft. It's that simple,
97 WNCrew : Pax will NEVER get it... we're past that. People have ZERO respect for rules. They have to know WHY WHY WHY everything applies to them and when you ex
98 TxAgKuwait : Since WN does not allow pets on board, either in the cabin or in the baggage compartment, I think it is safe to assume that the dog in question was a
99 SeaBosDca : I think it is more likely it was snuck aboard in a carry-on or large purse.
100 M11Stephen : To an extent, I remember there was a QF(?) incident years ago where F/As were fighting with pax over taking carryon luggage down the slide with them.
101 TylerDurden : Is there any evidence that this gentlemen, or anyone on this flight that took a personal item, in any way impeded, injured or endangered themselves o
102 Silver1SWA : This is simply my own personal observation here but I would have to agree. There was enough time before evacuation had begun that while waiting for s
103 300cap : While I was flying for another ailrline there was an evacuation, and any passenger that was had a carry-on was told to drop it! which they did. So I
104 PITingres : I guess I'm simply too old. Half the time I try to pull a flap to release a car seatbelt. Anyone who grew up in the 60's or 70's knows that you pull
105 G4maddog : I was a crew member on this flight and I'm reeeeeeeally bitting my tongue![Edited 2009-05-13 19:12:21]
106 TylerDurden : Clearly your looking for some kind of attention or you wouldn't be mentioning it. So go ahead. You have an audience. It's only against company policy
107 WNCrew : No... but the rules don't exist so something "didn't" happen... they exist so something DOESN'T happen. Hindsight doesn't save lives that were lost o
108 F9fan : I suspect the pilot may not have been aware of the fire initally. I thought WN didn't allow pets Most service animals have special collars that usual
109 BooDog : Agreed. Many owners of small dogs think that they can take them ANYWHERE humans go. All they have to do is say "it's a service animal" and by law (at
110 Deltaflyertoo : Has anyone reviewed the raw footage on Youtube? FOr almost 3 minutes the plane just sat there, no fire dept, no evacuation, no nothing. I'd be curious
111 F9Animal : I am sure once the aircraft came to a stop, and the tower told them there was a fire coming form the right main gear, they followed the book. First,
112 Silver1SWA : I know the feeling well. It is very, VERY hard to sit back and just stay quiet while reading nonsense that is spewed here when you know people wouldn
113 G4maddog : Amen!
114 Luv2cattlecall : How would one sneak an animal on board? It's not like TSA wouldn't notice....
115 SW733 : 1) That's quesitonable... 2) Just because WN doesn't allow it does not mean other airlines don't. It's not the TSA's job to enforce airline rules.
116 LoneStarMike : This is from the article posted upthread about the girl with the dog: I'm assuming by "he" the passenger was referring to the lone male flight attend
117 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Here's the liveatc archive: Link You can hear the tower call "fire" right around 16:05, and then about 10 seconds later telling another flight to "go
118 Txjim : Did she request a print of the bag-check x-ray to give to her vet?
119 OPNLguy : I think your times are in error--that's 35 minutes...
120 LoneStarMike : Sorry. 16:05 and 16:40 was meant to indicate the number minutes and seconds into the recording, not hours and minutes. I guess I should have made tha
121 OPNLguy : Roger that---That's 00:16:05 and 00:16:40. Thirty-five seconds sounds much better...
122 Post contains links Flashmeister : That's not my point. Review what I said: no laptop or briefcase contains anything that entitles someone to potentially impede the evacuation of a bur
123 Silver1SWA : I wasn't trying justify anything with my statement. I am not going to take any sides of the debate. I was just pointing out that there was enough tim
124 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Well what about this video of a much worse fire onboard a Federal Express flight with a full load of jumpseaters? Looks like everything but the kitch
125 BEG2IAH : If they chose to throw stuff out instead of jump out faster, good for them. People's stupidity is limitless and there's no cure for it. If I was tryi
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