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L1011 Attendant Jumpseats  
User currently offlineBosplane From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 3 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 3487 times:

I believe there were flight attendant jumpseats in some of the galleys (not the solo jumpseats near the exits) on the L1011's. I just saw a video of a L1011 cabin, and there was a large coat closet in the galley. Did the galley jumpseat fold into the wall to allow for the coat closet? Any help would be appreciated.

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User currently offlineACEregular From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 675 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 2 days ago) and read 3198 times:

I flew on TF-ABV in 1997 at was seated at the 3rd door. Adjacent to this door was a galley which took up the width of the four seats in the centre section of seating. There was a rear facing fold up double bench seat at this location. Crew did not sit on this for take off or landing, but it was used during the flight for rests and I do remember watching a crew member do some paperwork sat there. Immediately above it was the coat rack, which ran into the ceiling.

User currently offlineToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3076 times:

At TWA our L10's had fold away jumpseats at service center 2 directly across from the elevators (L2/R2) and at service center 3 which was at L3/R3. There were also 2 jumpseats in the lower galley with fold down tables although they were never occupied for takeoff or landing.


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User currently offlineM11Stephen From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 1247 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Those jumpseats would have been used for extra, non-faa required F/As since the ones required to meet the 1:50 rule would be sitting at a jump seat adjacent to an exit. If an airline had more F/As than required and every door was already covered then an F/A would sit in a galley seat. This is rare today since most airlines have cut crew levels to the bare minimum even leaving some F/As on wide bodies responsible for two doors.


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2722 times:



Quoting M11Stephen (Reply 3):
Those jumpseats would have been used for extra, non-faa required F/As since the ones required to meet the 1:50 rule would be sitting at a jump seat adjacent to an exit. If an airline had more F/As than required and every door was already covered then an F/A would sit in a galley seat. This is rare today since most airlines have cut crew levels to the bare minimum even leaving some F/As on wide bodies responsible for two doors.

The double seat in the Mid-Galley was for the Galley Crew (the two FA's that worked the underfloor galley) as the two seats in the underfloor galley were not usable for takeoff and landing


User currently offlinePnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2224 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2636 times:

The rack that held the coats retracted up into the crown of the fuselage out of the way to save space. I always wondered if any coats fell off and got stuck up there  Smile. Once they were out of the way the bench could fold down.

User currently offlineToTheStars From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 22 hours ago) and read 2425 times:



Quoting 474218 (Reply 4):
The double seat in the Mid-Galley was for the Galley Crew (the two FA's that worked the underfloor galley) as the two seats in the underfloor galley were not usable for takeoff and landing

Not at all airlines. Our R4 was the galley person assisted by R2. At TWA the service center jumpseats where for the 3rd first class and 3rd buisness class flight attendants.



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User currently offlineBosplane From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 21 hours ago) and read 2409 times:

Thanks for all of the replies, I really appreciate it!

It's been over 15 years since I was in a L1011, but I seem to remember that the double jumpseats were not like the usual double jumpseats found in most aircraft types. Did the whole seat fold into the wall when not in use? Or was it always visible (like the 737, M80, etc)?


User currently offlineTristarSteve From Sweden, joined Nov 2005, 3971 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 19 hours ago) and read 2346 times:

The whole seat folded away. It ended up flush with the wall.
I am sure one of the Tristars I flew on had a double jump seat between doors 4 . On the bulkhead in front of the rear toilets as well. I vaguely remember sitting there one day when we operated a charter with two crews on board. I must admit I only sat there for take off and landing, I went and hid in the underfloor galley the rest of the flight.


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1925 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 2225 times:

DL had the double jumpseat between L4/R4 on the -1's, -250's and some -500's. There were fourteen total jumpseats upstairs on the -1.


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User currently offline474218 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6340 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 2208 times:



Quoting ToTheStars (Reply 6):
Not at all airlines. Our R4 was the galley person assisted by R2. At TWA the service center jumpseats where for the 3rd first class and 3rd buisness class flight attendants.

It was Lockheed intention to have two galley attendants work the underfloor galley, there are two seats in the underfloor galley for their use in case of turbulence. However, the underfloor galley seats could not be used for takeoff or landing, so for takeoff and landing they had to be in the main cabin. So the double jump seat was installed forward of the Mid Cabin Service Center, across the cross isle from the galley lift doors. Once we delivered the aircraft the operator was free to establish their own procedures, as long as they didn't violate any FAR's.


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