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Delta N708DN With White Widget?  
User currently offlineJbguller From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10510 times:

Hi all,

Noticed on the Paine Field site that Delta's new bird N708DN has taken its first flight, however the widget on the rudder of the tail is still white. I thought that a rudder had to be painted and balanced before fitting...?

Is this for an alternate livery, or for their SYD-LAX startup, or have they just not painted it yet?

Picture is here: http://paineairport.com/kpae2034.htm

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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4742 posts, RR: 45
Reply 1, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10506 times:

just not painted yet.


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineJbguller From Australia, joined Jun 2005, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10488 times:

Straightforward answer, thanks a lot!  Smile

User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10416 times:



Quoting Jbguller (Reply 2):

They got a pic of 7107 like that to (or it could of been 7106) there was a kinda long thread about it.

But yes she just isn't painted yet. I always thought the rudder have to be paint before it was put on the plane......guess not LOL



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User currently offlineAntoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1555 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 10403 times:

You know, without being able to see the whole widget like that.... It almost looks better with white against the blue...

Of course, with the fuselage being plain white, it probably wouldn't look as good on a finished plane, but still something they could consider.



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User currently onlineMSPNWA From United States of America, joined Apr 2009, 1904 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 10252 times:



Quoting DeltaL1011man (Reply 3):
I always thought the rudder have to be paint before it was put on the plane......guess not LOL

I thought that way as well. Guess I was wrong too.

Wonder what a white widget would look like on a fully painted aircraft.


User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1304 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 10022 times:

Quoting Jbguller (Thread starter):
I thought that a rudder had to be painted and balanced before fitting...?

The rudder is painted   . The widget just wasn't filled in as yet. It would be my guess that the weight of the paint already on the rudder was sufficient.

[Edited 2009-05-13 21:15:31]


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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9856 times:

It might look good white, outlined in red on the blue tale......OR they could just put the original damn widget back on it and be done with it!!  duck 


"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offline7673mech From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 707 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9598 times:
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Adding the paint to a new rudder is not difficult.
The rudder weight can be recalculated.
It is a little harder when the rudder has been painted several times - add some point they have to be stripped and sanded and repainted.
But new rudders are generally just have to be recalculated.

[Edited 2009-05-14 02:34:10]

User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2296 posts, RR: 19
Reply 9, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7867 times:



Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 4):
Of course, with the fuselage being plain white, it probably wouldn't look as good on a finished plane, but still something they could consider.

You could also just paint the widget blue, the same color as it is on the tail.

Here's a concept I did not to long ago, I think with their current scheme, add billboard titles :


Aviation-Design.Net:
Click here for bigger photo!
Design © Bobby Catone
Template © RP Abraham




ALL views, opinions expressed are mine ONLY and are NOT representative of those shared by Southwest Airlines Co.
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4742 posts, RR: 45
Reply 10, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7631 times:

After the new livery came out, I did a quick play-around to see what it would have looked like with DL's original colors:




Must say, I do prefer my design

[Edited 2009-05-14 07:23:33]

Template from Jetabout.

[Edited 2009-05-14 07:23:50]


Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineCFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7282 times:

There were quite a few threads on the number of LR's DAL was to receive this year, and I thought I saw the final number was either 3 or 5 with the last one arriving far earlier than this a/c. Can someone provide the final number to be received this year and when the last one is slated to arrive? Thanks

User currently offlineAdam42185 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7113 times:



Quoting Mayor (Reply 7):
It might look good white, outlined in red on the blue tale......OR they could just put the original damn widget back on it and be done with it!!

AHHHH how I wish they would do this!! I miss the blue and red widget! --- once we get them to do that, we just need them to get 727s and L1011s in the fleet again haha!


User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6822 times:



Quoting CFBFrame (Reply 11):
There were quite a few threads on the number of LR's DAL was to receive this year, and I thought I saw the final number was either 3 or 5 with the last one arriving far earlier than this a/c. Can someone provide the final number to be received this year and when the last one is slated to arrive? Thanks

This should give you the info you want..............


http://www.widgetheads.net/



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineUnattendedBag From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2323 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 5871 times:



Quoting Jbguller (Thread starter):
Is this for an alternate livery,

did you notice the rest of the plane is green?



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User currently offlineFRAspotter From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2341 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5470 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 9):

Ooooooh I like it...  Smile I like the idea of the tail design extending further down onto the aircraft. The billboard titles also were a nice touch...



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User currently offlineCFBFrame From United States of America, joined May 2009, 531 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4968 times:

Thanks Mayor

Appreicate it and will check the website


User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4915 times:



Quoting SXDFC (Reply 9):
Here's a concept I did not to long ago, I think with their current scheme, add billboard titles :



Aviation-Design.Net:

I love the tail treatment -- the widget looks great larger. The titles I think shld be in between the billboard ones and the tiny ones they have now.

Nice job!


User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3099 times:

I must say that I like the look of the billboard titling better than the smaller print they are using now.


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User currently offlineMayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10346 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3037 times:



Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):

I like your design, too......best of the old with the best of the new. I think maybe, tho, that a red tail with the originally colored widget might work.



"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
User currently offlineDeltaL1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (5 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2921 times:



Quoting CFBFrame (Reply 11):

There were quite a few threads on the number of LR's DAL was to receive this year, and I thought I saw the final number was either 3 or 5 with the last one arriving far earlier than this a/c. Can someone provide the final number to be received this year and when the last one is slated to arrive? Thanks

7108 is that last one for 09. They get 2 in 2010 and they have or or 2 options for 2010.



yep.
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