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First SSJ-100 Will Fly In December For SU  
User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6569 times:

Good news! The first Sukhoi Superjet 100 will be delivered to Aeroflot in December. Armavia should be the first foreign airline to fly the new aircraft.

Other news is that the new airline Rosavia will take the ten aircraft ordered by the now defunct AirUnion.

And, Russia's trade minister claims that a French airline will be the next buyer of the SSJ... Any guesses?


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Sources:
http://www.portalino.it/nuke/modules...p?name=News&file=article&sid=37017
http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=31822
http://www.russiatoday.com/Business/...rpin_outlook_for_Superjet_100.html

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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1640 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6531 times:

Indeed-great news! Looking forward to the emergence of aircraft made by manufacturers outside the USA and the EU.
It would be interesting to see if eventually one would be able to rival Airbus and Boeing.

Quoting ENU (Thread starter):
And, Russia's trade minister claims that a French airline will be the next buyer of the SSJ... Any guesses?

If a French airline buys this, it would be the ultimate act of irony given the whole France-Airbus dynamic. But why not?


User currently offlineAfay1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 1293 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6315 times:

If Armavia is supposed to get the first plane, and their rep is saying "early 2010" for delivery, how can Aeroflot take delivery in December 2009? Also, will either airline get the Pininfarina interior or are both getting the bare-bones ones?

User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6302 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 1):
Indeed-great news! Looking forward to the emergence of aircraft made by manufacturers outside the USA and the EU

Add Brazil and Canada......



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User currently offlinePlaneWasted From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6278 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 1):
If a French airline buys this, it would be the ultimate act of irony given the whole France-Airbus dynamic. But why not?

Not really. Airbus don't make small planes and the SSJ at least have partly french engines.


User currently offlineKL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 5085 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 6236 times:

Aren't the ATR planes part of EADS and manufactured in Toulouse?


Next trip : DUB-AUH-CGK-DPS-KUL-AUH-CDG-ORK :-)
User currently offlineThePinnacleKid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 708 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

total pipe dream... and not expecting it to ever be a reality... but it would be really cool, personally, if American Airlines ordered these to fill the gap long vacated by the F100 & 717's retirement. Arpey has long stated they wanted/needed another aircraft in that size range.. and this, being associated remotely with Boeing for help, would by the closest aircraft to fit into the Gentleman's Agreement... but, alas... I'm def. not going to hold my breath...

For a russian airliner... this plane finally has some nice curves and some grace in the air... not just a flying tank.



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2993 posts, RR: 27
Reply 7, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6066 times:



Quoting Afay1 (Reply 2):
If Armavia is supposed to get the first plane, and their rep is saying "early 2010" for delivery, how can Aeroflot take delivery in December 2009?

Aeroflot is the launch customer. Armavia is the first FOREIGN airline to get the a/c delivered.

Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 6):
some grace in the air...

Man, you must be really missing out on the gracefulness of the TU-154 with wings flexed gliding in the air.


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1924 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5923 times:



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
Aeroflot is the launch customer. Armavia is the first FOREIGN airline to get the a/c delivered.

According to Sukhoi, Armavia is the launch customer and not Aeroflot.

The first Sukhoi Superjet 100 passenger airplane will be delivered to Armenia's national airline Armavia, the Russian aircraft maker announced on Monday.

http://en.rian.ru/business/20090511/121535249.html


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2004 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5897 times:



Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 6):
total pipe dream... and not expecting it to ever be a reality... but it would be really cool, personally, if American Airlines ordered these to fill the gap long vacated by the F100 & 717's retirement.

The Superjet would follow on nicely (marketing wise)from the DC9 Super 80...

Quoting KL911 (Reply 3):
Quoting Directorguy (Reply 1):
Indeed-great news! Looking forward to the emergence of aircraft made by manufacturers outside the USA and the EU

Add Brazil and Canada......

And China...and Japan... the regional jet market is getting extremely crowded, a bit like the regional prop market in the late 80s...Russia certainly has a large enough of a domestic market to support the SSJ, so hopefully it will be a success.



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User currently offlineEYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 5660 times:

The similar topic was on the forum just few days ago, but I failed to find it through the search engine. Well, let me put some light on what's is being discussed around the Superjet.

The first serial a/c 95007 will be delivered to Armavia.

Quoting ENU (Thread starter):
Other news is that the new airline Rosavia will take the ten aircraft ordered by the now defunct AirUnion.

That is true, Sukhoi is currently in talks with Rosavia. Meanwhile, the order might be more than just 10 ships.

Quoting ENU (Thread starter):
Russia's trade minister claims that a French airline will be the next buyer of the SSJ.

I'm very surprised this comes from Russian minister. Superjet International takes care about SSJ100 sales in France, so I would expect such info from italian minister. As for the matter of the rumour, I do not have even a wild guess. I'd love this to be Air France!  Wink

Quoting Afay1 (Reply 2):
will either airline get the Pininfarina interior or are both getting the bare-bones ones?

Both will be equipped with interior produced by B/E Aerospace. Pininfarina interior at the preliminary studies stage and won't be produced in the nearest year or even two. Most probably Pininfarina interior will be offered to Western customers only.

Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
Aeroflot is the launch customer.

Well... it is. Aeroflot had the first delivery agreement, but it seems like it won't be the first who gets the aircraft. Maybe Sukhoi will deliver aircraft to both starting customers at the same day, at least have a commemorative ceremony.


User currently offlineAllegro From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 235 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5505 times:

Say what you will but the Russians do build them pretty! The blue one has an awesome livery.

Any plans for a stretched version?



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User currently offlineEYKD From Russia, joined Dec 2006, 191 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 5425 times:



Quoting Allegro (Reply 11):
Say what you will but the Russians do build them pretty!

You got it!

Quoting Allegro (Reply 11):
The blue one has an awesome livery.

The gradient was made by manually painted 26 000 dots. I prefer the white one, though.

Quoting Allegro (Reply 11):
Any plans for a stretched version?

Yes, there are. I don't possess any details, but I know for sure Sukhoi is studying it now.


User currently offlineR2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2497 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5206 times:



Quoting Allegro (Reply 11):

Any plans for a stretched version?

It's under study, the plane could be stretched to 110-130 seats with the same engines and wing. If the SSJ-95 sells decently, the stretch will happen. In fact, I see it having more chances than the SSJ-75 shrink version.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...s-door-for-stretched-superjet.html

Quoting ENU (Thread starter):
And, Russia's trade minister claims that a French airline will be the next buyer of the SSJ... Any guesses?

I can't possibly think of who could buy it right now.... but it is true that France (because of Snecma) and Italy (Alenia) would be the natural entry points for the SSJ in the West.


User currently onlineLH526 From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (4 years 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 5153 times:
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Are there any specs about it's economy, technical and electrical integrity, effectiveness in design, worldwide net of parts / maintenance availabilitym, etc in comparison to costs and competitors? I know that many parts and systems are of western production ... but how you make them work together is what counts.

[Edited 2009-05-21 15:51:08]


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User currently offlineENU From Netherlands, joined Nov 2006, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4912 times:



Quoting EYKD (Reply 10):
That is true, Sukhoi is currently in talks with Rosavia. Meanwhile, the order might be more than just 10 ships.

Which airlines that ordered the SSJ actually went bust? Dalavia (6+4) and AiRUnion (15)? I believe latter ordered their SSJ through a lessor?

Quoting R2rho (Reply 13):
In fact, I see it having more chances than the SSJ-75 shrink version.

SuperJet said that it is taking a hard look at its original plan to build a 75-seat regional jet and likely will go for an aircraft in the 100/115-seat range to complement the existing 95-passenger SSJ 100 platform.

Quoting EYKD (Reply 10):
The first serial a/c 95007 will be delivered to Armavia.

Indeed, first delivery of the SSJ 100 is still on schedule for the end of 2009 to Armavia, which has two firm and two conditional orders. First delivery to launch customer Aeroflot, which has 30 firm orders, is expected shortly thereafter.

http://atwonline.com/news/story.html?storyID=16663
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9wTcxYJvKM


User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4861 times:

If a French Carrier does order it would be a great victory fr the russians, I would imagine, to finally break the international aircraft market! It would make me very glad, I know.


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User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4818 times:



Quoting Aeroflot777 (Reply 7):
Quoting ThePinnacleKid (Reply 6):
some grace in the air...

Man, you must be really missing out on the gracefulness of the TU-154 with wings flexed gliding in the air

The Tu154 is an extremely ugly, clumsy, lumpy plane. The only tri-jet uglier than the 154 was the British Trident.


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (4 years 11 months 6 days ago) and read 4753 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 17):
The Tu154 is an extremely ugly, clumsy, lumpy plane.

That's your opinion, and that's fine to me, but not everybody agrees with you.



Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.
User currently offlineOlli From Mexico, joined Mar 2001, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4711 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 17):
The Tu154 is an extremely ugly, clumsy, lumpy plane. The only tri-jet uglier than the 154 was the British Trident

In my personal opinion the TU154 will never match the beauty of the 727, but it is definitely a pretty plane, as well as powerful.

Best Regards,


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26520 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4706 times:



Quoting Severnaya (Reply 18):
but not everybody agrees with you.

I love the design of the TU-154 IL86 IL96 IL 62 , they are my fav Russian A/C.



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User currently offlineTDubJFK From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4668 times:



Quoting Severnaya (Reply 18):
Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 17):
The Tu154 is an extremely ugly, clumsy, lumpy plane.

That's your opinion, and that's fine to me, but not everybody agrees with you.

Right. Are you saying that forums like this one are only here for everyone to politely agree with each other on everything?


User currently offlineSevernaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4536 times:



Quoting TDubJFK (Reply 21):
Are you saying that forums like this one are only here for everyone to politely agree with each other on everything?

Sure i didn't say so, but you give your opinion like stating a fact. Not everybody thinks that the Tu154 is "an extremely ugly, clumsy, lumpy plane." as you can see by the comments above. But let's get back to topic.  Smile

Anybody has more information about the order made by 3Y (Kartika Airlines) for 15 (+15 options) 100-95B?



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User currently offlineTheRedBaron From Mexico, joined Mar 2005, 2163 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (4 years 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

Does anyone know the range and max payload of the superjet?

AM is having trouble with the E jets on hot climate and hgh altitudes Vs. payload/range, that is why MX got 717.

If the superjet has nice qualities for high cicle frames and good performance...who knows some latin america countries may order them.

BTW I love the cockpit windows...



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User currently offlineLrdc9 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 610 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (4 years 11 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4403 times:



Quoting OA260 (Reply 20):
IL86 IL96

love these, thou none will ever match the grace of the 727



Just say NO to scabs.
25 Post contains links R2rho : 1590nm carrying 98 PAX for the basic version, 2390nm for the LR version http://superjet100.com/#/superjet100/super_economics/ http://superjet100.com/
26 OA260 : Apples and Oranges mate , thats like comparing a A380 to a E175 .
27 RayChuang : If the Sukhoi SuperJet 100 is a success it could be BAD news for fans of older Russian jets. the possibility of ten years from now Russian airports fu
28 Pylon101 : I still hope that there a tiny space for TU-334. The same design on all jets is so boring. SSJ is aimed at the Russian market first of all. It covers
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