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Faucett And Air Florida Livery Similarity  
User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3447 posts, RR: 6
Posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3301 times:

I just came to this realization during a search of the database for Air Florida photos. Compare Faucett and Air Florida's color schemes:


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The designs are identical, save for the colors used. It's just too much of a similarity to be a simple coincidence. But then, who copied who?

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User currently offlineMidEx216 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 651 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 3284 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
The designs are identical, save for the colors used.

I wouldn't say identical. They are very close though. Just the tail section, that I can see, has any significant differences.

That being said, I just happened to open the last two pictures that you posted. I tried to open the two pictures with the closest resemblance to properly compare the liveries, and it just so happens that they both say Air Florida. Is there any possibility that, given the generic design, one airline bought planes from the other, and just painted over the same design they had, using different colors? Just a thought.



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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3264 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
The designs are identical, save for the colors used.

While indeed very similar, they're not quite identical. Take a closer look at how the colors go up the vertical stabilizer. The Air Florida bird's colored stripes are a consistent width, while the Faucett birds's taper as they go up.

I was quite surprised to see EI-BEF marked as an Air Florida aircraft. It must have come into their fleet sometime after I left in 1982 and when they shutdown in 1984.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 3, posted (5 years 7 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3229 times:



Quoting OB1504 (Thread starter):
I just came to this realization during a search of the database for Air Florida photos. Compare Faucett and Air Florida's color schemes:

Nice pickup! Very similar, but as discussed above, not identical.

I still think Air Florida has one of the nicest liveries ever applied to an aircraft.



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User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3152 times:



Quoting MidEx216 (Reply 1):
Is there any possibility that, given the generic design, one airline bought planes from the other

Yes, at least one, OB--R-1288 was a 737-200 once flying for Air Florida. It was even flying in Air Florida livery with Faucett titles for some time. Seeing that Air Florida leased a Faucett plane before it seems there were business connections between both airlines.
Looking at available photos Air Florida´s livery came first though, Faucett´s orange/red scheme in the same style appeared ca.1982.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4358 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Many airlines get inspired by others.
Iraqi's livery is very similar to Avianca's 1975-1998 colourscheme except it's in green instead of red.
Phuket Airways liked Metrojets basic colours they had on 732s they bought from them so much that they put the same livery on their YS-11s which never flew at Metrojet.
West Air Europe liked the 1995-2004 United colours they got on their second hand ATPs so much that they use this colour on every aircraft, also the ones they didn't buy from United (Air Wisconsin in fact).



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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3072 times:

Check out Continental and Channel Airways!



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User currently offlineRikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1684 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

The difference in the tails between Faucett and Air Florida, is that the Faucett design incorporates a stylized Peruvian flag:

http://www.worldmapsinfo.com/flags/1205819342fPeru_flag(1).gif


Many airlines have had similar paintschemes:

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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2780 times:



Quoting Rikkus67 (Reply 7):
The difference in the tails between Faucett and Air Florida, is that the Faucett design incorporates a stylized Peruvian flag:

Incidentally, was this a Peruvian requirement before the 1990s or something? All OB-registered aircraft from this time period have the Peruvian flag on the rudder portion of the tail:


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User currently offlineOwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2745 times:

Close, very close. I prefer the Faucett over the Florida one.

But... this YAK42 shows a true copycat design of the Boeing NG schemes:


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User currently offlineOwlEye From Netherlands, joined Feb 2006, 962 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 7 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting Dtwclipper (Reply 6):
Check out Continental and Channel Airways!

Nice comparison. It happens so now and then though very rarely that airlines adopt designs from other airlines due to brand name change, owner change, cooperation or even from a sentimental point of view.

I remember when I had the privilage to do my very first real airline re-design project, for Antwerp based VLM (Vlaamsche Luchttransport Maatschappij = Flemish Air transport Company). The airline's strict design brief was to come as close as possible to a simular brand apparel and experience like KLM. In the meantime VLM added 'Airlines' to its brand. Then I designed a flying billboard for the Financieel Economische Tijd (the Financial Economic Times) with a blue roof. That design was the step up to VLM's latest bold looking paint scheme. VLM is recently adopted by Air France KLM.


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