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Rumour - BA LGW To ACE & SSH Winter 09/10

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Posted (4 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3131 times:

Not sure how their A319s would perform on such routes.

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LHR380 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (4 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Would love to see ACE, always wanted to go back there.

Good news for Gatwick.

Shamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1547 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (4 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

The A319 wouldnt have any problems making it to ACE from LGW!
Perhaps it might have some trouble with SSH? espeically with a heavy load?

[Edited 2009-05-21 02:19:15]

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (4 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3055 times:

Would club loads be good to SSH?

APYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (4 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Quoting Richardw (Reply 3):
Would club loads be good to SSH?

The upgrade fare would probably be quite heavy. You can get through quite a bit of champagne on a LGW - Sharm.

Strange strategy though - knowing that the charters are now focussing heavily on medium haul traffic having lost so much short haul to the locos.

We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.

Severnaya From Russia, joined Jan 2009, 1390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (4 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2906 times:

Since when is BA focussing on these charter destinations?

Всяк глядит, да не всяк видит.

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (4 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2869 times:

Quoting Severnaya (Reply 5):
Since when is BA focussing on these charter destinations?

Since GT was bought by U2 and there are no longer club class seats availble.

Spud757 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (4 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Quoting Richardw (Reply 6):
Since GT was bought by U2 and there are no longer club class seats availble

So perhaps it wasn't such a good idea for BA to let GT go to the LCCs??? BA could have purchased GT to keep and develop the routes like this rather than giving the game away to the likes of U2 and then play catch up.

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (4 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

BA has launched their own services on a good number of the former GT routes without buying GT and U2 has reduced some former GT flights.

AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2365 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (4 years 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2721 times:

Actually, I would expect flights to TFS as they were very successful flights. SSH would be a surprise addition. They could operate those flights as red eye flights but I would see those flights operated by A320 or A321.

Next flights : BRU-ZRH-CAI (LX)/ BRU-FCO-TLV (AZ)

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2693 times:

SSH has become very popular for winter holidays and is hotter than Tenerife in Dec/Jan, so demand may be good for club seats.

GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1726 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Club loads were never spectacular on GT to be fair.

Proud to fly from Manchester!

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2662 times:

Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 11):
Club loads were never spectacular on GT to be fair.

How were they at peak times, say Easter and half term school holidays?

BA now has 2-2 seating instead of 2-3 seating that GT used in club on A320/321, fewer available seats in club fills an A319 quicker than before.

APYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2619 times:

Quoting Richardw (Reply 12):
How were they at peak times, say Easter and half term school holidays?

Surely peak times at an airline are morning and evening every working day of the year. Filling a premium cabin at only holiday times is probably a clue to the lack of success.

We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.

GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1726 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (4 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

From the beginning of 2007, the GT 320's could have a maximum number of 20 club pax. That was enough. Many flights could fill the 20 seats but it's hardly the club loads found on business routes and many of the GT routes were long sectors.

Proud to fly from Manchester!

HeeBeeGB From Finland, joined Sep 2007, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (4 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2537 times:

Club loads on the Canaries were never crash-hot with GT, SSH club loads weren't bad but again never fantastic.

ACE and SSH will not be announced, nor will anything else like it as there are to be no new
short haul routes launched at LGW for winter 2009/10. Infact it is the opposite, AGP and GIB could be for the chop.

MBJ and PUJ have been announced twice daily from w09 and an increase to BGI, UVF and POS.

[Edited 2009-05-21 07:25:11]

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (4 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2521 times:

Quoting HeeBeeGB (Reply 15):
there are to be no new
short haul routes launched at LGW for winter 2009/10.

So suspending ZRH and DUB doesn't free up any new route possibilities?

APYu From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2007, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (4 years 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2512 times:

Quoting Richardw (Reply 16):
So suspending ZRH and DUB doesn't free up any new route possibilities?

Not if the base short haul fleet is reducing

We'd like to welcome in particular our Executive Club members and those joining us from our Oneworld alliance partners.

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (4 years 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2484 times:

Quoting APYu (Reply 17):
the base short haul fleet is reducing

Didn't realise that the reduction may be cancellation of routes rather than greater utilisation, if possible, of aircraft.

Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (4 years 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2172 times:

Looks like it isn't going to happen following today's results, thanks for the contributions.

Gkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24621 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (4 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1955 times:

Quoting LHR380 (Reply 1):
Would love to see ACE, always wanted to go back there.

ACE is currently easily available from LGW, with the likes of Monarch, Thomas Cook and Thomson Airways.

You don't need to wait for BA to get there you know Wink

When you hear the noise of the Tartan Army Boys, we'll be coming down the road!

By738 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Sep 2000, 1986 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (4 years 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1792 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 20):
You don't need to wait for BA to get there you know

You do if you wish a suitable business class product

GT4EZY From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 1726 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (4 years 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1721 times:

Quoting By738 (Reply 21):
You do if you wish a suitable business class product

Which is relatively few people......thats the whole point.

Proud to fly from Manchester!

Myt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 74
Reply 23, posted (4 years 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1649 times:

Quoting GT4EZY (Reply 22):
Which is relatively few people......thats the whole point.

Exactly. It's Lanzarote not New York.

One Life, Live it.

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