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Volaris Applies For TIJ-OAK  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25725 posts, RR: 50
Posted (5 years 5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2464 times:

Seemingly on an application roll with the DOT.

Concesionaria Vuela Compania de Aviacion, S.A. de C.V. (dba Volaris) on Friday applied with the DOT to commence TIJ-OAK service effective this summer.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
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User currently onlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7592 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (5 years 5 months 22 hours ago) and read 2402 times:

Hehe, there you go, all of you fellow a.netters who said that a Volaris' TIJ-OAK route would work well due to Volaris' strenghth at TIJ.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5925 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (5 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 2290 times:
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When I first posted comments about Volaris doing the OAK-TIJ service, there were a lot of nay-sayers about how Volaris would never do it. Well, here it is. Now, it doesn't mean that it will work or not, but I hope it does.

With Swine Flu waning in Mexico, I hope traffic to Mexico will pick up soon and fast.


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6793 posts, RR: 32
Reply 3, posted (5 years 5 months 13 hours ago) and read 2275 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
When I first posted comments about Volaris doing the OAK-TIJ service, there were a lot of nay-sayers about how Volaris would never do it. Well, here it is. Now, it doesn't mean that it will work or not, but I hope it does.

Well, the problem with any TIJ-U.S. city service is that it has to be competitive in price with the same market to SAN -- and probably be a bit less due to the taxes imposed on international flights. Connections at TIJ might help the service to succeed, but it seems like TIJ-OAK would lose out to SAN-OAK on both price and frequency.


User currently offlineEghansen From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (5 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 2260 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 2):
When I first posted comments about Volaris doing the OAK-TIJ service, there were a lot of nay-sayers about how Volaris would never do it. Well, here it is. Now, it doesn't mean that it will work or not, but I hope it does.

I don't know whether I was one of the naysayers.

I remember a post where others were suggesting that Volaris could make TIJ a hub with connections from California to cities in Mexico. I said that TIJ had neither the infrastructure nor enough flights to make a hub at TIJ.

There have been several airlines in the past who tried international flights from TIJ to California. Hopefully, this will work for them. They will be competing with Southwest who flies 14 times per day SAN-OAK plus all the other flights to SFO and SJC.


User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5925 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (5 years 5 months 12 hours ago) and read 2245 times:
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Like I said, TIJ-OAK may or may not work...we'll just have to see. I agree totally that they're essentially competing with WN to SAN. But if Volaris is tailoring toward hard-core Mexicans and not so much others, it could work. Both Taesa and Allegro Air tried.

I'm still hoping for a daytime departure for Volaris...maybe a RON at OAK.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2168 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 5):
Both Taesa and Allegro Air tried.

GD and LL failed because they were cheesy airlines. But very loved ones (at least from my side). Unfortunately it's administration didn't had a clue in the long term to run an airline on the first case, and when Allegro's owner died, her wife didn't care neither their sons and the airline then died.

Volaris has good support from TACA and it will from WN.

JR has flown TIJ-LAX
MX has flown TIJ-LAX

LL did

TIJ-LAS
TIJ-OAK

And GD also did

TIJ-LAS
TIJ-OAK

It's not a coincidence too. Some people from TAESA later moved to Allegro. TIJ can support some international service.

The very best for Volaris!

g77



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5925 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2125 times:
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AM flew LAX-TIJ also. That was my first international flight back in 1980's; on a DC-9-30 with a whopping 12 people.

User currently offlineOAKflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

I would love to see Y4 advertise it's routes on the huge bay bridge billboard on the OAK side. Y4 should have better advertising here than Allegro and Azteca. For advertising here in the Bay Area..Y4 should also mention weekend escapes to Ensenada and Rosarito to draw tourists.

User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5925 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2032 times:
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Quoting OAKflyer (Reply 8):
Y4 should also mention weekend escapes to Ensenada and Rosarito to draw tourists.

First, the Mexican government needs to help cut down the organized, drug crimes in Tijuana. I've heard that Tijuana is one of most dangerous cities in the world.

Again, I hope the OAK-TIJ service is a daytime service.


User currently onlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2022 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 9):
First, the Mexican government needs to help cut down the organized, drug crimes in Tijuana. I've heard that Tijuana is one of most dangerous cities in the world.

Nope....actually OAK is more dangerous than TIJ

Quoting Eghansen (Reply 4):
I said that TIJ had neither the infrastructure nor enough flights to make a hub at TIJ.

Half correct, TIJ has a very limited infrastructure, but TIJ has more destinations than TLC does and TLC is the base of operations for Volaris, so if Volaris were to due a hub TIJ would be the front runner.



Kids!....we are going to the happiest place on earth...TIJUANA! signed: Krusty the Clown
User currently offlineOAKflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1984 times:

Yes Oakland is very dangerous as I can testify that I live here. Have lived here for past 24yrs. Tijuana is a cool town. I wish they would work on a light rail for the city as it is big enough. TIJ can dangerous, but you do have to remember TIJ has 1.5+ million people. Also there are very nice parts of Tijuana. It is a very developed city. Oakland only has about 420,000 +.

The TIJ Airport in my opinion is nicer than San Diego in the way it works. SAN is so crowded and a hassle to fly into. When Y4 commences OAK-TIJ service I hope it stays on for a while as I would like to ride that than OAK-SAN service I take to visit family there. It will so nice not to cross the border anymore...


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5224 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 1917 times:



Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 7):
AM flew LAX-TIJ also. That was my first international flight back in 1980's; on a DC-9-30 with a whopping 12 people.

Good to know this! Do you know in what year AM started this flight?

Quoting OAKflyer (Reply 11):
TIJ can dangerous, but you do have to remember TIJ has 1.5+ million people.

Correction, IIRC, TIJ is near to the 3.2m. Can you confirm Marcus?

g77



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User currently offlineWedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5925 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
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Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 12):
Good to know this! Do you know in what year AM started this flight?

I really don't know. I just remember seeing it in an OAG and thought I could give AM a call (remember, no internet really during the 1980's). So I actually bought a ticket through a local travel agency at the time.

I flew down on an Air Cal 737-200 from OAK-LAX and connected to the AM DC-9-30 at the TBIT. It was a very cool, but short flight. They served a cold sandwich and a full can of pop on the flight.

Quoting OAKflyer (Reply 11):
Yes Oakland is very dangerous as I can testify that I live here. Have lived here for past 24yrs. Tijuana is a cool town. I wish they would work on a light rail for the city as it is big enough. TIJ can dangerous, but you do have to remember TIJ has 1.5+ million people. Also there are very nice parts of Tijuana. It is a very developed city. Oakland only has about 420,000 +.

The TIJ Airport in my opinion is nicer than San Diego in the way it works. SAN is so crowded and a hassle to fly into. When Y4 commences OAK-TIJ service I hope it stays on for a while as I would like to ride that than OAK-SAN service I take to visit family there. It will so nice not to cross the border anymore...

Ok...I won't argue about what city is more dangerous. But, like you said, I hope the service stays for a while. For the third time, I hope it's a daytime flight.


User currently onlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1801 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 1884 times:



Quoting Ghost77 (Reply 12):
Correction, IIRC, TIJ is near to the 3.2m. Can you confirm Marcus?

The "official" number is about 1.5 million, but everybody knows that this number is far lower than the real one based on border crossings, airport and bus terminal departures versus arrivals, whole neighborhoods not being counted, "temporary" population, children in schools, water and electricity consumption, cars on the road etc etc etc.

I now some friends who have done some investigations on this subject (regional development graduate studies) and their numbers are closer to 2-2.25 million. But if you look around the internet you will see published essays that quote numbers higher than the one I just mentioned.

Quoting Wedgetail737 (Reply 13):
Ok...I won't argue about what city is more dangerous. But, like you said, I hope the service stays for a while. For the third time, I hope it's a daytime flight.

I hope Volaris doesn't screw this one up, they have flights leaving every day to almost all their destinations before noon, so if the timing is right you could have an inbound OAK flight that can connect to flights going to Monterrey, Toluca, Guadalajara, Cabo, Puerto Vallarta, Puebla, Acapulco, Hermosillo.



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