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SQ Plans To Start Doha Route  
User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1851 posts, RR: 9
Posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 6774 times:



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“We have achieved good results for the first quarter of this year and last year. Last year, we had a 12-percent growth, considering it was the onset of the global financial crisis. We are currently exploring on having extension flights, or stopover flights from Singapore, to Doha, to another destination. We already had talks with the local authorities and they were open to this subject… Now, we are checking our scheduling so we can arrange our flights when the time comes,” said George Y Twal, director GSA of Singapore Airlines.


I presume that SQ is planning Doha as an extention of some other destination--perhaps maybe Dubai or Abu Dhabi. Would be interesting to have SIN-DXB-DOH. If perhaps they could get 5th freedom in DXB-DOH this flight would be a year-round success!

Source: http://www.thepeninsulaqatar.com/Dis...09&file=Local_News200905252339.xml


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User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6685 times:

Great news if they did. This comes as no surprise as the have been increasing their presence in the Gulf for the past few years - AUH, JED, RUH and most recently KWI.

Maybe even a SIN-BAH-DOH service operating four times a week could work?


User currently offlineCV580Freak From Bahrain, joined Jul 2005, 1033 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6471 times:

With no GF ex Bahrain link to SIN or SYD I'm sure this would be well supported


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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 6471 times:

Great news! Boy, SQ is taking expansion to a whole new level!
Don't think the route will be SIN-DOH-BAH, or SIN-DXB-DOH. DOH as a stopover suggests that it will be an intermediate point with the 777 continuing to a destination already served.
Perhaps SIN-DOH-MOW to replace the DXB stop? Maybe SIN-DOH-ATH? Who knows...


User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6357 times:

This piece of news is amazing. The only presence the SE asian carriers had in Qatar was a code share on QR's flights to KUL,BKK.

The article suggests that the flight would be SIN - DOH - XXX.



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User currently offlineQatarA340 From Qatar, joined May 2006, 1851 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6269 times:



Quoting Ojas (Reply 4):

This piece of news is amazing. The only presence the SE asian carriers had in Qatar was a code share on QR's flights to KUL,BKK.

The article suggests that the flight would be SIN - DOH - XXX.

I dont think that the SQ spokesman meant what he saying literally. I think he meant there was not going to be a direct point served by SQ, but rather Doha will be served as a stopover from or to another place.

DOH is really stingy on granting 5th freedoms from its airport.



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User currently offlineMH017 From Netherlands, joined Apr 2005, 1691 posts, RR: 31
Reply 6, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6235 times:

Great news, as it would lower the high QR fares out of DOH (competition)  Smile


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User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6136 times:

I s DOH (and Qatar) going to be the future Dubai...? They have the oil and gas reserves and revenues to ensure the money to spend on building up the place and they seem to be doing things with the same zeal and enthu that we saw in Dubai some years back....

Maybe SQ views DOH as a good point to, perhaps, pick up passengers from the Indian sub-continent and carry them forward to some point in Europe or N.America...?


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6049 times:

I would have thought that the potential of Bahrain is much more lucrative than Doha.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4785 posts, RR: 43
Reply 9, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5911 times:

I think it would make more sense for them to fly SIN-DOH nonstop and then extend the flight to some where west such as BEY or OSL.

No point flying SIN-DXB-DOH as it would not be competitive versus QR who would be flying the route nonstop.

SQ's target market in DOH would be leisure pax bound to KUL, DPS, SIN, Australia and most importantly premium traffic bound to Tokyo, Australia, TPE and SIN.

Look at what TG have done in KWI...they are flying 5 weekly nonstop BKK-KWI using a premium A 346 versus SQ which is 4 weekly B 772s via AUH. As a result, TG will prove to be a more popular choice with premium pax and high volume cargo agents as well.


User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4891 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5635 times:

Truth be told I don't really get this move... SQ's numbers have taken a beating recently and they have taken a number of measures to stay competitive. Why on earth they want to take on QR and DOH puzzles me. The market ex-DOH is not that big and with the excpetion of Australasia and South America there are very few places SQ serves that QR doesn't that would justify a stop at Changi...

If it is a tack on to one of the daily DXB or AUH runs that might be interesting but given the comparative weakness of Star carriers (compared to GCC alliance free carriers) I can't imagine there would be much of a following. Let's see what happens.

YOWza



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User currently offlineOjas From India, joined Mar 2008, 2975 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5533 times:



Quoting YOWza (Reply 10):
Truth be told I don't really get this move... SQ's numbers have taken a beating recently and they have taken a number of measures to stay competitive. Why on earth they want to take on QR and DOH puzzles me. The market ex-DOH is not that big and with the excpetion of Australasia and South America there are very few places SQ serves that QR doesn't that would justify a stop at Changi...

If it is a tack on to one of the daily DXB or AUH runs that might be interesting but given the comparative weakness of Star carriers (compared to GCC alliance free carriers) I can't imagine there would be much of a following. Let's see what happens.

I really think this could be one of those flights continuing to Saudi Arabia. Either they could introduce services to DMM via DOH or complement the existing services to JED or RUH via DOH and make either of them daily services.

Currently JED is served 3 times a week via AUH and RUH is served 4 times a week via DXB by SQ.



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User currently offlineYOWza From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 4891 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5353 times:



Quoting Ojas (Reply 11):
Currently JED is served 3 times a week via AUH and RUH is served 4 times a week via DXB by SQ.

It is possible that the end leg would be somewhere in the KSA but again I'm not sure how much strength the SQ brand carries in the region or whether pax would prefer a GCC carrier over SQ even though SQ is world class in its own right...

YOWza



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User currently offlineYegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5340 times:



Quoting Behramjee (Reply 9):
I think it would make more sense for them to fly SIN-DOH nonstop and then extend the flight to some where west such as BEY or OSL

going to BEY would be sweet!!! And the DOH-BEY market is getting larger with 3x daily currently...I'm sure many str alliance members going to Australia from BEY would love to catch the SQ flight if it evear happens


User currently offlineSInGAPORE_AIR From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13742 posts, RR: 19
Reply 14, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 5100 times:



Regional boost for Singapore carrier despite slowdown

When queried on the possibility of introducing flights from Doha to Singapore, the official said the company has been consistently carrying out regular market studies on the issue and our finding is that “we are not ready yet for operations”.

More at Gulf Times



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User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5012 times:

Although I would love to see another Far Eastern carrier at Dammam(after Garuda), I don't think there is sufficient market for SQ. They flew to Dhahran for years with A310 and later 743/744 equipment. The last SQ route to Dhahran was Singapore-Dhahran-Istanbul. I feel the only airlines that would work at Dammam now would be a Phillipine carrier like Lion Air, or Malaysian.

I would still say that Bahrain has more chace of working than Doha. Nobody currently flies Singapore-Bahrain, wheras there is the might of QR in Doha, who already serves the Doha market well.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineRyanair!!! From Australia, joined Mar 2002, 4755 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (5 years 4 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4918 times:



Quoting HUYfan (Reply 15):
I feel the only airlines that would work at Dammam now would be a Phillipine carrier like Lion Air,....

Lion Air is from Philippines?



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User currently offlineMEA From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 631 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (5 years 4 months 18 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

SIN - DOH - BEY would be nice!

User currently offlineGardermoen From Australia, joined Jul 1999, 1522 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (5 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

I was in BEY a few weeks back and it would be nice to see SQ over there - but I think MH has the SE Asia/Australia market covered pretty well - as do Emirates/Etihad.

Perhaps DOH could be a stop over point for the CAI flights.
I know they have reveretd back to SIN-DXB-CAI instead of the SIN-CAI non-stops.


User currently offlineHUYfan From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 1407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (5 years 4 months 17 hours ago) and read 3963 times:

Oops, my mistake! I meant Lion Air from Jakarta, or someone like Cebu Pacific from Manila when they get their A330s.

Regards

Mike


User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (5 years 4 months 16 hours ago) and read 3899 times:



Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 7):
I s DOH (and Qatar) going to be the future Dubai...? They have the oil and gas reserves and revenues to ensure the money to spend on building up the place and they seem to be doing things with the same zeal and enthu that we saw in Dubai some years back....

Maybe SQ views DOH as a good point to, perhaps, pick up passengers from the Indian sub-continent and carry them forward to some point in Europe or N.America...?

I don't think SQ will operate SIN-DOH-Europe/North America. The age of routes like that are over, except with a few notable exceptions.

Quoting Yegbey01 (Reply 13):
going to BEY would be sweet!!! And the DOH-BEY market is getting larger with 3x daily currently...I'm sure many str alliance members going to Australia from BEY would love to catch the SQ flight if it evear

Indeed-BEY would make a great addition but it's one of those extremely seasonal-in-terms-of-demand places.

Quoting HUYfan (Reply 15):
Although I would love to see another Far Eastern carrier at Dammam(after Garuda), I don't think there is sufficient market for SQ. They flew to Dhahran for years with A310 and later 743/744 equipment. The last SQ route to Dhahran was Singapore-Dhahran-Istanbul. I feel the only airlines that would work at Dammam now would be a Phillipine carrier like Lion Air, or Malaysian.
Dhahran was a stop on SIN-DHA-IST 3x a week using the 744, as of the 1993 SIA schedule. DHA was well-served during that area.

I would still say that Bahrain has more chace of working than Doha. Nobody currently flies Singapore-Bahrain, wheras there is the might of QR in Doha, who already serves the Doha market well.

BAH used to have several Asian-bound flights, and of course CX used to serve BAH as HKG-DXB-BAH-HKG and HKG-BAH-LHR (or something similar). CX maintained its commitment to BAH. CX provides connections to China, Japan, Asia, Australia etc. A SIN-BAH wouldn't really be serving anything-BAH-SIN can't be that big, and SIN is already well served from DXB, DOH etc.


I just thought of another advantage to SQ serving DOH-QR has some strong ties with *A, and the addition of SQ at the airport would probably boost ties and could be a strong hint that QR is considering *A.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 21, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3525 times:



Quoting Gardermoen (Reply 18):
I was in BEY a few weeks back and it would be nice to see SQ over there - but I think MH has the SE Asia/Australia market covered pretty well - as do Emirates/Etihad.

I'm really curious how MH does in BEY considering it's only a 3x weekly one-stop service (via DXB) while EK, QR, EY, and GF (to a lesser extent) offer competitive daily connecting options to Southeast Asia and Oceania via their hubs.

Clearly the competitive environment in BEY has drastically changed from when MH introduced their service.



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User currently offlineDirectorguy From Egypt, joined Jul 2008, 1689 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3415 times:



Quoting BA (Reply 21):
GF (to a lesser extent) offer competitive daily connecting options to Southeast Asia and Oceania via their hubs.

GF offers no longhaul network beyond its BAH hub except to points like MNL (and BKK, KUL & India), which I daresay are quite low-yield. The majority of GF pax originating in BEY usually end up in DOH, DXB, AUH, MCT and BAH itself. Since the termination of BAH-SIN-SYD, the airline offers nothing more than a few token routes.


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 23, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3242 times:



Quoting Directorguy (Reply 22):
GF offers no longhaul network beyond its BAH hub except to points like MNL (and BKK, KUL & India), which I daresay are quite low-yield.

Which is why I said "to a lesser extent."  Smile



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User currently offlineYellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6180 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3211 times:

What about SIN-DOH-IAH....though the 773 might struggle westbound DOH-IAH.


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25 SQ_EK_freak : Well QR just started the route though, and offer superior connections out of Doha than SQ out of Singapore given the geography of the two airports...
26 Ojas : you are mixing it up. QR was operating a daily SIN - CGK tag and 4 of the 7 weekly flights to KUL continued to DPS with rights between KUL and DPS. Q
27 SQ_EK_freak : Gotcha...thanks!
28 Aidanoc5793 : Dublin, Dublin, Dublin........please for the love of God please let it be a stop on an SIN-DUB. Would make sense at least, their new A330's could oper
29 Avek00 : It's SQ's general approach to serving the North American market. There's fairly little traffic from the USA to SIN, and the nonstop flights from EWR
30 Kaitak744 : There is also a lot of connecting traffic going through SIN. LAX/SFO- SIN - India is very popular. Maybe even from IAH as well. The nonstop flights t
31 Directorguy : If there's little traffic between SIN and the USA, then I doubt there's going to be much DOH-USA. There are 3 daily nonstops, not to mention the 1 an
32 Pellegrine : DOH is coming up in the world, don't want to get lost among DXB and AUH! Misinformation. Before the financial brouhaha, J was making money (frequently
33 Kaitak744 : Isn't that what I said?
34 Pellegrine : Sorry should have quoted differently. Just trying to say, the J part was good, Y+ didn't work so well.
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