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Carnival Air Lines Transcons?  
User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1062 posts, RR: 0
Posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4543 times:

In a brief but very interesting period, Carnival flew A300s from FLL to LAX using A300s. To my knowledge, they offered both First and economy, but I have heard almost nothing about the configuration of their aircraft, quality of the meals, or the design of the cabin.

Based on registrations, they got A300s from a number of different sources (CO, PA). Did they manage to clean them up and configure all of them the same (same seats, cabin, etc.) or was it a hodge-podge?

I can find out very little about them, but this mystery gives it some charm!

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User currently offlineADXMatt From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 951 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (5 years 3 months 4 weeks ago) and read 4527 times:

Were they flown as Carnival metal or were they from Pan Am 2 when they merged?

User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1062 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4514 times:



Quoting ADXMatt (Reply 1):
Were they flown as Carnival metal or were they from Pan Am 2 when they merged?

They were flown as Carnival metal in the mid-90s. There are several pages devoted to them in the photo database (the color scheme resembled the Carnival cruise ships). I think the Pan Am 2 tie-in came later.


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25390 posts, RR: 49
Reply 3, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4363 times:

Carnival flew MIA-LAX for many moons prior to the Pan Am 2 merger using both 734s and A300s.
Carnival code-shared on the flight with Iberia following Iberia's withdrawal from LAX.

Seat config on the A300 fleet varied slightly from tail to tail but was basically F24Y230'ish matching their ex Eastern configuration primarily.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25332 posts, RR: 22
Reply 4, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4193 times:



Quoting CF-CPI (Thread starter):
Based on registrations, they got A300s from a number of different sources (CO, PA).

Their 3 oldest A300s were ex-MH.


User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

I flew on a Carnival A300 back in 1997 right after the merger with PA2 between PSE and JFK via BQN, the aircraft was in an all coach layout. The food in coach was OK (typical airplane food), the outbound was delayed and the cabin crew was just there. On the return flight the crew ran out of food, the back couple of rows did not get food, in my opinion that aircraft was way too big equipment for the PSE to JFK roundtrip.
This was my one and only time to fly on Carnival.

Regards,

Chepos



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User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

During the mid-1990s, Iberia codeshared with Carnival for flights to Los Angeles. Were those from Miami or JFK?

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25390 posts, RR: 49
Reply 7, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4041 times:

The Iberia LAX codeshare was from MIA.

In addition Carnival also had a codeshare with Lan Chile for MIA-NYC (cant recall airport).



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User currently offlineJohnClipper From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2005, 844 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 3926 times:

and KW also had a deal with Ladeco to run "Ladeco USA Express" with 737-200s from MIA and/or JFK.

User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6220 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3871 times:

I was under the impression Carnival had a deal with Ladeco and not Lan Chile, they had an Aibus A300 painted in Ladeco markings. The route they worked together on was on the MIA JFK run,

Regards

Chepos



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User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2282 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

When I was an agent for QQ, I sold a round trip ticket to a customer from RNO to LAX, connecting to Carnival to MIA or FLL, can't remember which. It was basically a walk-up fare since the ticket was for the next day. Grand total? $350. Not bad at all... never flew them though but the prices, in my one experience, were really good.


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25390 posts, RR: 49
Reply 11, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

Yes might have been Ladeco instead of Lan Chile. I suppose Lan Chile was in my mind as eventualy the two airlines combined.


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User currently offlineSkyyblue From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3462 times:

Carnival also operated LAX-FLL-SJU with a 734.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 13, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

I flew them once in 1997, although I didn't intend to fly them. I had bought a ticket on PA2 from MDW to MIA roundtrip for the sole purpose of flying on a PA jet (granted, not the original) for the first time. A week before my trip I got a letter from PA in the mail stating "Your flight will be operated by our partner, Carnival Air. We ensure you you'll receive the same great service you'd expect from Pan Am."

MDW-MIA was indeed a Carnival 72S in a high density layout of around Y175. The flight was delayed about two hours, and there were about 80 passengers on board. A full lunch service was offered and I saved the plastic container which housed the meal since it was engraved with the words "Pan Am". I took a bunch of napkins too which had the blue globe on them. Overall it was a nice flight.

On the way back, it was the Carnival 72S painted in the "Miami Heat" color scheme. Again, about two hours late...full lunch service...and about a half-full airplane.

The flights were routed MDW-MIA-SJU and return.

It was quite a thrill taking off/landing in MDW in a 72S.


User currently offlineTu154 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 375 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

We flew quite a few configurations of the A300 at KW. The first one was from EA and was used primarily on the MIA-LAX-MIA run with an IB code share. The had the original brown interior and brown seats for a while before the KW red and blue seat covers were installed.
The next few came from PA and CO in the same 24f 230y configuration. A few came later from Malaysian Airlines and an all y configuration was used for charters and sent to Turkey for a Pegasus lease. One was also painted in LADECO colours and used as a code share on the MIA-JFK-MIA run.

Our service from MIA-LAX was for the most part an IB service. Choice of hot meals in both cabins, dinner to the west coast and breakfast back. On the FLL-LAX-FLL trip was breakfast to the west coast and a redeye back. When we first started the service, we offered a choice of two hot entrees in Y as well as hot bagles or croissants. When the flight switched to a B737-400, the service was simplified. On MIA/FLL-JFK we offered a box meal. It was a hot meal in a plastic box, or a sandwich in a plastic box. We also did an ala carte service for a while, consisting of carrot stick, chips, candy etc. From what I remember it didnt last long.

The all Y configuration was high density, 3-3-3 with little legroom. We used the alot for LAS charters, they were miserable. The EA birds had no meal carts and only tea carts for beverage carts. The PA and CO birds were much nicer with original blue interiors and modern service carts.


Quoting Chepos (Reply 9):
I was under the impression Carnival had a deal with Ladeco and not Lan Chile

We had codeshares with LADECO on MIA-JFK-MIA on a KW A300 painted in LADECO colours. Lan Chile was an interchange with KW. LAN flew the B767 from Chile and KW crews took it from MIA-JFK and back. IB was from MIA-LAX and back on a kw A300.



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User currently offlineContrails15 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (5 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2051 times:

Used to take Carnival out of ISP down to PBI and FLL. Wasn't a bad airline although how bad can it be when your flying out of ISP. Its pretty black and white when you fly out of ISP, just the way I like it.


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